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Title: Superglue foam
Post by: Maenoferren on 20 January 2013, 09:40:45 PM
What ho chappies,
I was glueing a pile of figs to the MDF bases using gorilla glue superglue, I left them to dry (it didnt seem to bond straight away) Luckily I checked them sooner rather than later. When I checked the glue had foamed up over the bases and in one case over the figure.   #-o #-o #-o

I have used the same kind of stuff to stick figs to the bases and used the minibits ones like I had in the past.
Anybody had anything similar happen to them. The only thing I can think of is that the glue was past its best.
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Techno on 21 January 2013, 08:31:16 AM
How very strange M.
Never heard of that before....Sounds like some sort of chemical reaction for it to do that. :-\ :-\
Any possibility of there being something on the base and/or model ?
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Leon on 21 January 2013, 02:27:28 PM
I've never heard of that either, where was the superglue stored?  Could be a low temp reaction, where part of the glue has frozen and separated from the rest of the compound?  A similar thing can happen with paints?
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Nosher on 21 January 2013, 07:09:59 PM
I have had something similar like this happen to me before.

I bought a boatload of Russian Naps in 15mm and had them commission painted. I used exactly the same superglue I have always used to glue the figs to their bases, however on this one occasion rather than leave them to dry thoroughly in the same room as that which I glued them in, I moved them to a cooler room and I also closed the box lid.

When i opened the box a day or so later to start flocking the bases I noticed that almost all of the figures had snow like dust up their legs and and in some cases all the way up their tunics.

This wiped off with a dampish cloth but took freakin ages... :d afterward there was still some residual deposit that I simply couldn't shift.

I put it down to the fumes from the glue reacting with the paint used on the figures (which was enamels) 
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: nikharwood on 21 January 2013, 08:57:51 PM
Could water / moisture (plus low temp as others have suggested) contributed as well?
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Fenton on 21 January 2013, 09:15:42 PM
http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/failures.html

I think this explains it or maybe just makes it more confusing
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Techno on 21 January 2013, 09:25:47 PM
Looks like that's the answer then, Fenton.
Good answer that man. :-bd
Didn't realize such a glue, with that property, existed.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: nikharwood on 21 January 2013, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 21 January 2013, 09:15:42 PM
http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/failures.html

I think this explains it or maybe just makes it more confusing

I think he needs a hobby... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Fenton on 21 January 2013, 09:27:58 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 21 January 2013, 09:26:33 PM
I think he needs a hobby... ;) ;D

Maybe he needs a blog  ;)
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: nikharwood on 21 January 2013, 09:36:29 PM
 =D> =O =D> =O
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Maenoferren on 21 January 2013, 10:03:04 PM
old croft house, damp with poor heating so yep more than likely the case... was still totally wierd though :D
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Maenoferren on 19 September 2013, 09:18:21 PM
It struck again and this time with photographic proof.
:D
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc31/Maenoferren/10mm/gorillaglue_zps7dc212ec.jpg) (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/Maenoferren/media/10mm/gorillaglue_zps7dc212ec.jpg.html)

evidently you are supposed to wet both pieces, I wonder if that has caused the problem
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: get2grips on 19 September 2013, 09:39:13 PM
It's the blob...run for your lives...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Techno on 20 September 2013, 07:24:48 AM
How strange !
What sort of consistency is the glue M ?
Super thin ? Medium ?
I'll add a tiny bit of water to the  super thin stuff I use, and see what happens.
I'll let you know later. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 September 2013, 08:55:53 AM
Shhhhhhhh^te!
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Techno on 20 September 2013, 09:13:08 AM
Well....
Had a go mixing water and my 'Zap' super thin glue.....Nothing happened as described above, apart from the usual nasty 'scorching smell' when I used a bit of kitchen towel to get rid of the mess......Poo !.....That's horrid ! ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: Maenoferren on 20 September 2013, 08:39:30 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 September 2013, 08:55:53 AM
Shhhhhhhh^te!
Yep... luckily only the six of them. This one wasn't the  worst. It was the last of them to get sorted before I remembered the camera. The glue itself is pretty thick.

Pity I forgot about it foaming :'(
Title: Re: Superglue foam
Post by: WeeWars on 20 September 2013, 11:01:50 PM
The Gator glue I use is gap filling. I imagine your glue is similar and the glue is designed to expand. It's useful if the underside of the base isn't flat, the glue can level the fig. But you only have to use very little.