Superglue foam

Started by Maenoferren, 20 January 2013, 09:40:45 PM

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Maenoferren

What ho chappies,
I was glueing a pile of figs to the MDF bases using gorilla glue superglue, I left them to dry (it didnt seem to bond straight away) Luckily I checked them sooner rather than later. When I checked the glue had foamed up over the bases and in one case over the figure.   #-o #-o #-o

I have used the same kind of stuff to stick figs to the bases and used the minibits ones like I had in the past.
Anybody had anything similar happen to them. The only thing I can think of is that the glue was past its best.
Sometimes I wonder - why is that frisbee geting bigger - and then it hits me!

Techno

How very strange M.
Never heard of that before....Sounds like some sort of chemical reaction for it to do that. :-\ :-\
Any possibility of there being something on the base and/or model ?
Cheers - Phil

Leon

I've never heard of that either, where was the superglue stored?  Could be a low temp reaction, where part of the glue has frozen and separated from the rest of the compound?  A similar thing can happen with paints?
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Nosher

I have had something similar like this happen to me before.

I bought a boatload of Russian Naps in 15mm and had them commission painted. I used exactly the same superglue I have always used to glue the figs to their bases, however on this one occasion rather than leave them to dry thoroughly in the same room as that which I glued them in, I moved them to a cooler room and I also closed the box lid.

When i opened the box a day or so later to start flocking the bases I noticed that almost all of the figures had snow like dust up their legs and and in some cases all the way up their tunics.

This wiped off with a dampish cloth but took freakin ages... :d afterward there was still some residual deposit that I simply couldn't shift.

I put it down to the fumes from the glue reacting with the paint used on the figures (which was enamels) 
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nikharwood

Could water / moisture (plus low temp as others have suggested) contributed as well?

Fenton

http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/failures.html

I think this explains it or maybe just makes it more confusing
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Techno

Looks like that's the answer then, Fenton.
Good answer that man. :-bd
Didn't realize such a glue, with that property, existed.
Cheers - Phil

nikharwood

Quote from: Fenton on 21 January 2013, 09:15:42 PM
http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/failures.html

I think this explains it or maybe just makes it more confusing

I think he needs a hobby... ;) ;D

Fenton

If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

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Maenoferren

old croft house, damp with poor heating so yep more than likely the case... was still totally wierd though :D
Sometimes I wonder - why is that frisbee geting bigger - and then it hits me!

Maenoferren

It struck again and this time with photographic proof.
:D


evidently you are supposed to wet both pieces, I wonder if that has caused the problem
Sometimes I wonder - why is that frisbee geting bigger - and then it hits me!

get2grips

It's the blob...run for your lives...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

Techno

How strange !
What sort of consistency is the glue M ?
Super thin ? Medium ?
I'll add a tiny bit of water to the  super thin stuff I use, and see what happens.
I'll let you know later. ;)
Cheers - Phil

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Techno

Well....
Had a go mixing water and my 'Zap' super thin glue.....Nothing happened as described above, apart from the usual nasty 'scorching smell' when I used a bit of kitchen towel to get rid of the mess......Poo !.....That's horrid ! ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Maenoferren

Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 September 2013, 08:55:53 AM
Shhhhhhhh^te!
Yep... luckily only the six of them. This one wasn't the  worst. It was the last of them to get sorted before I remembered the camera. The glue itself is pretty thick.

Pity I forgot about it foaming :'(
Sometimes I wonder - why is that frisbee geting bigger - and then it hits me!

WeeWars

The Gator glue I use is gap filling. I imagine your glue is similar and the glue is designed to expand. It's useful if the underside of the base isn't flat, the glue can level the fig. But you only have to use very little.
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