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Title: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 19 January 2013, 01:10:46 PM
Inspired by a few posts of nik and mad lammy 1860-1870 period armys i have started with 1860 Austrians.

The Figures are as usual fantastic detailed so they are easy to paint.
I have startet with 4 figures of Austrian Jagers in kittel to see how they look painted. ( i forgot to buy Jager Command  >:( )

(http://i47.tinypic.com/xgb5er.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/kd0h14.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/15yw203.jpg)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: nikharwood on 19 January 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Those look lovely Andreas  8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 January 2013, 01:47:06 PM
Good choice of army, everyone gets to beat them up!
Great looking figures, loving them do far. Are they the newer sculpts?
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Shedman on 19 January 2013, 01:52:56 PM
Excellent paint job

These are the old sculpts (I think)

Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Leon on 19 January 2013, 02:24:18 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 19 January 2013, 01:47:06 PM
Are they the newer sculpts?

Quote from: Shedman on 19 January 2013, 01:52:56 PM
These are the old sculpts (I think)

The Jager's weren't part of the range resculpt, so these are still the current ones.

8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Techno on 19 January 2013, 02:54:42 PM
Really great !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: J.S. on 19 January 2013, 03:32:18 PM
Gfoid ma guad! (They look great). I'm also thinking of starting an army for this period. Let's see how the 1866 bavarians turn out when they arrive  8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 19 January 2013, 05:27:06 PM
Donkschä ! ( thanks )  ;)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Bernie on 20 January 2013, 12:43:58 PM
Beautifully done and shaded
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Hertsblue on 20 January 2013, 04:45:57 PM
Very nice indeed.  8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: maciek on 21 January 2013, 08:59:13 AM
 :-\  Did the jaegers ever wear white coats ?
I've always seen them in grey.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Womble67 on 21 January 2013, 01:20:06 PM
Very nice

take care

Andy
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 24 January 2013, 07:16:23 PM
@ infidel maciek  ;) : found it in my book and some other paintet Jagers in summer uniform on google pictures

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2eed8vl.jpg)

More Painting tests
(http://i45.tinypic.com/107q684.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/9s8pw5.jpg)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Steve J on 24 January 2013, 07:30:29 PM
They all look very nice to me 8).
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 January 2013, 07:43:14 PM
Looking great!  8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Techno on 24 January 2013, 07:56:07 PM
 8) 8)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Leon on 24 January 2013, 08:10:22 PM
 :-bd
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Post by: petercooman on 24 January 2013, 09:35:48 PM
Looking great!!
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: nikharwood on 24 January 2013, 11:24:58 PM
Excellent  8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Shedman on 25 January 2013, 08:50:50 AM
Lovely

What code are these figures?

(http://i45.tinypic.com/107q684.jpg)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Hertsblue on 25 January 2013, 08:53:37 AM
Very neat. And the coloured spirals on the flag-staff are particulaly well done.  8)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 25 January 2013, 09:43:32 AM
@ Shedman : figures are 1860's Austrian AU1 (Line in kittel)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Shedman on 25 January 2013, 11:01:59 AM
Ah - so these are the new sculpts then?

Very nice
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: J.S. on 25 January 2013, 11:59:03 AM
Great painting!
Which rules are you going to use?
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Leman on 25 January 2013, 02:50:40 PM
I'm going to be doing the 1866 period first. I'm putting mine on the 60mmx30mm bases so I can use them with 1866, Polemos, Black Powder. Will post photos on Photobucket when I have some French (for 1870) based up on the new 60mm frontages.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Leman on 25 January 2013, 02:57:04 PM
OMG - now I've seen Andreas' Union troops I'm considering 40x20mm. They look great! Could still use that system with the above rule sets, especially 1859, 1866 and 1870. Will try both types to see which I prefer.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 January 2013, 03:02:54 PM
3 x 40mm by 30s would be my best bet, command in the middle.

Oh if I had my time again...
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 26 January 2013, 02:11:28 PM
@ J.S : i use Black Powder and Grand Tactical Rules http://www.grandtacticalrules.com/ (http://www.grandtacticalrules.com/)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: maciek on 26 January 2013, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: Andreas Hofer on 24 January 2013, 07:16:23 PM
@ infidel maciek  ;) : found it in my book and some other paintet Jagers in summer uniform on google pictures
Yes, indeed. I've found this in Osprey also.

Quote from: Andreas Hofer
i use [...] Grand Tactical Rules
:-bd
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 27 January 2013, 10:20:18 AM
@ maciek : Do you youse also Grand Tactical Rules for 10mm ? if you do , what is your basing ?
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: maciek on 28 January 2013, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: Andreas Hofer on 27 January 2013, 10:20:18 AM
@ maciek : Do you youse also Grand Tactical Rules for 10mm ? if you do , what is your basing ?

I didn't start painting figures yet, but I considered doing it in "half-scale" with 6 infantrymen on 30x20mm stand. It also fits the original size - 1 1/4 inch as I remember.

I've also find that in this period and ACW as well I prefer arranging figures in "mob" rather than in lines:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSPi4_my_UM/TkuqhdsoyaI/AAAAAAAAAGU/cmf-ndD9ldI/s1600/800ny-1-4.jpg)
Here 8 figures per 40x20mm stand for ACW. Painted by Pawel Chrzanowski.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 31 January 2013, 05:45:27 PM
hi maciek,

6 infantrymen on 30x20mm stand sounded good so i have make 1 test base.
at Grand Tactical Rules a Regiment have 3 battalions, so i need 3 stands. I have only 6 men on stand , 2 ( flag, commander)of them are command figures . is it to much when i make 2 command figures one each stand of battalion ?
i think the command:soldier ratio is not consistent by only 6 men per base. i am not sure in this question. ???????
maybe someone has a good suggestion for my problem.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/33z8wao.jpg)

cheerio
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: maciek on 31 January 2013, 08:47:46 PM
I see that you choose GTR "full scale".
I considered "half scale" with one stand equal a half battalion. It's more historically accurate as Prussians operated with independent half battalions.
In half scale I would get one flag per 12 figures. I agree that a flag per six figures would be to much. If you stick to the full scale, try to use 40x20 stands with 8 or 10 figures.

BTW. The stand on the photo looks FANTASTIC !!!
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 January 2013, 10:43:10 PM
That looks amazing. Maybe just needs another stand of ordinary troops on each side, which would allow you to do line and column. Just a thought, feel free to ignore! :)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Techno on 01 February 2013, 07:53:39 AM
Brilliant job ! :-bd =D>
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Hertsblue on 01 February 2013, 08:31:26 AM
It really depends on how many battalions you want to field. Also bear in mind that their main opponents, the French, fielded much smaller battalions, and would probably need to be only four figures strong. From the point of view of the rules it probably doesn't matter greatly how many bases you have, but a twelve or eighteen-figure battalion looks better than one of only six figures.

Beautiful figures, BTW  :-bd
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: kev1964 on 01 February 2013, 11:11:27 AM
Very nice figs and great basing,

kev
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: barbarian on 01 February 2013, 06:19:51 PM
About the basing, I think the grass is a bit tall, hiding the beautiful paint job.
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Post by: petercooman on 01 February 2013, 06:26:51 PM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: nikharwood on 01 February 2013, 10:45:55 PM
Very nice indeed, although I think that barbarian is right - the long static grass is hiding them a bit!
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 01 February 2013, 11:50:09 PM
yes but only from this perspective  :)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 02 February 2013, 01:32:56 AM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/1ju6o2.jpg)

I think this will be my entry into Painting Competition  ;)

Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Steve J on 02 February 2013, 06:23:14 AM
And very nice it is too 8).
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: barbarian on 03 February 2013, 02:35:49 AM
Trim that grass !! ;)
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Nav on 03 February 2013, 05:58:56 AM
Quote from: maciek on 28 January 2013, 10:56:25 AM
I didn't start painting figures yet, but I considered doing it in "half-scale" with 6 infantrymen on 30x20mm stand. It also fits the original size - 1 1/4 inch as I remember.

I've also find that in this period and ACW as well I prefer arranging figures in "mob" rather than in lines:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSPi4_my_UM/TkuqhdsoyaI/AAAAAAAAAGU/cmf-ndD9ldI/s1600/800ny-1-4.jpg)
Here 8 figures per 40x20mm stand for ACW. Painted by Pawel Chrzanowski.

what company makes those figure may i ask
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 03 February 2013, 09:53:06 AM
I think i have found my basing for GTR , 40x20 with 12 Figures . With TRIMMED grass  :P
Thank for all suggestion here.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/jh78cz.jpg)

Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 February 2013, 09:55:21 AM
Really nice! (*)
Lawnmower or sheep?
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: maciek on 03 February 2013, 09:56:55 AM
Quotewhat company makes those figure may i ask
Hmm.... I think I can't say it here, as they are not Pendraken's.
But if you visit my blog and find the post with this picture, you will find this information easily.  ;)

QuoteI think i have found my basing for GTR , 40x20 with 12 Figures . With TRIMMED grass
That's it !   :-bd
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: mollinary on 03 February 2013, 10:34:54 AM
Andreas,

Love your work, and truly welcome you coming into my favourite period.  I think your new basing does look excellent, and  much better than the six figure base you tried before.  A couple of questions, if I may. You seem to have assumed that the figures show the shakos uncovered, and therefore have included a  go at the eagle on the front.  I have always assumed that they show the shako covered, as I understand it usually was in Bohemia.  Does anyone know the intent of the sculptor?    Second, unless he is carefully hidden in the second row, you have not used the drummer figure.  A pity, in my view, as I think he is one of the best sculpts, and really exudes the period - sort of Darko Pavlovic's Osprey illustration based on Teuber and Ottenfeld. Did you just decide it was one too many "command" figure for a base?

Mollinary, looking forward to seeing more of your work on this army, in particular the cavalry!
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Andreas Hofer on 03 February 2013, 11:36:44 AM
hi mollinary ,

I do not know if the eagle on shako is historically correctly . its only my interpretation. i find the shakos are too plain for covered.
Yes indeet i have no drummer used , because for the first rank its to much command figures . for 7 figures in each rank the drummer is ok , but I have space for only 6 on the base ( 1 soldier on the left, commander , flag carrier, drummer, 2 soldier on the right looks not so ordered) . and in second rank you cant see the drummer in all his splendor. so in tresh with him ! ;)


Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: kev1964 on 03 February 2013, 12:33:07 PM
Great work  Andreas, look forward to seeing more.

kev
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Post by: petercooman on 03 February 2013, 12:39:27 PM
Looks splendid!!!
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: cameronian on 10 February 2013, 12:50:04 PM
Lovely figures, beautifully painted but I agree with Mollinary, the drummer is a nice figure, I don't think he crowds the sase, I use the same scale as you.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/55665103@N03/5158035132/sizes/l/in/set-72157625347117602/
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 February 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Those are beautiful Cameroonian
Title: Re: 1860 Austrian WIP
Post by: keeryel on 08 March 2013, 04:24:04 PM
Hello Andreas, very nice figures indeed!
I like them a lot.
which color did you used on them? light blue seems really good, I'd like to use it on my own austrian 1859 project.
thanks and, again, compliments.