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Title: some info re scenery
Post by: vladgothic on 17 October 2012, 03:38:14 PM
Hi all

Some of you may have seen me floating about the forum on and off for about 12 months now, admittedly more off than on but hopefully this will change.

I first started buying pendrakens 10mm with ww2, a step down in size from 15's for me. The rules I like to use in conjunction with the company ish sized games didn't leave a lot of room for a tactical game so 10mm seemed the obvious choice, and pendraken even more so  :D. This has now led me to collect pretty much solely in 10mm, makes sense.......... one scale of scenery etc etc......

...... now this leads me into the scenery question have I missed something or is there a woeful lack of choice in this scale?

So far I have:
Pendraken
Timecast
Magister Militum
old glory a few bits
Rod langton ACW
Fieldworks
The baggage train bits and bobs

some of the above ranges are small and maybe not to my tastes, I asked after the old glory range recently at Derby and was informed they may or may not be in stock but they could be got eventually..... maybe the C.S. or focus could have been a little more interested  :(

And I know N gauge railway kit is servicable, but is limited.

So have I missed some? any info would be marvelous, further to that what would you LIKE to see?

Would be good to hear what you all have to say as 10mm fans.

Vlad
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 October 2012, 03:50:13 PM
With regard to Baggage GTrain - Steve does do requests, but is trying to rebuild the Atlantic Wall at the moment. Also has a fair bit of stuff that is not on his site......

IanS ;)
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Leon on 17 October 2012, 04:03:08 PM
Hovels do some suitable stuff as well: http://www.hovelsltd.co.uk/contents.htm (http://www.hovelsltd.co.uk/contents.htm)

With the N-scale options included, there's a decent amount of kit about, so it really depends on what you're looking for?
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: vladgothic on 17 October 2012, 04:24:11 PM
Ah yes forgot about all about hovels!

I personally am not looking for anything specific for the time being, just looking over the market generally and asking the questions to expand the collection etc and to see what is and what is not available.

This is what happens after leaving the hobby for several years, product knowledge dissipates  :)

Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: fred. on 17 October 2012, 04:28:23 PM
You've covered most of the main manufacturers

Kerr and King do some desert stuff in 10mm and some of their 15mm stuff will work fine.

I like the Kestral plastic kits, which are meant for railways.

I have also used a fair bit of brick or stone embossed plastic card to scratch build ruins.
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 17 October 2012, 05:57:36 PM
Evening,

Since you mention WWII specifically these three are mostly tangential, but for the sake of completeness ;)

Total Battle Miniatures: http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/skirmish/10mm/darkage.html (http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/skirmish/10mm/darkage.html) Only Dark Age 10mm stuff so far, but they are exquisite!  (These are the only ones I actually own.)

Whilst nosing around the web recently I also noticed that Kallistra do Dark Age and Medieval stuff, whilst Irregular have a small selection of 10mm bits and bobs.

Cheers,

Meirion
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Orcs on 17 October 2012, 06:35:13 PM
I have the Kerr and King desert town and it paints up really well. They have a very good painting guide on thier site for it as well
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 17 October 2012, 09:21:34 PM
Hi

There is also The Square which mainly sells at shows (unfortunate for us internationals  :()

http://thesquare-wargames.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_35&zenid=f622c7327558a03b49c968d4d802446a (http://thesquare-wargames.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_35&zenid=f622c7327558a03b49c968d4d802446a)

(http://thesquare-wargames.co.uk/shop/images/10fact2.jpg)

(http://thesquare-wargames.co.uk/shop/images/10bunk2.jpg)

(http://thesquare-wargames.co.uk/shop/images/10def1.jpg)

Maybe Minibits can have a look?

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: sunjester on 17 October 2012, 09:44:09 PM
Some of The Square's buildings are a touch small compared with Timecast, being 1/200th, but I'm quite happy using them for my WW2 terrain. They are a very good price!
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: sunjester on 17 October 2012, 09:57:17 PM
Opps, pressed the button too soon! #-o

In my collection I have quite a few bits of terrain intended for 15mm or even 6mm that fit in fine for 10mm. Walls, fences, hedges, bridges etc.

There are also a few small scale/part time manufactures making nice stuff. I picked up some nice trees and a super little walled vineyard, with removeable vines, from theTreefellers at Sheffield. Unfortunately they only really trade at shows, and only those in the North of the country! :( Their 6mm bocage looked as if it would have been fine for 10mm.

For 20th century games there is actually quite a lot available in the N gauge railway stuff, especially if you do not mind card buildings.

Of course, keeping an eye on the dreaded Ebay is an idea, there seems to be a new terrain maker selling their wares turn up every month or so, that said some of those I bought from in the past have also disappeared! :-/
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 October 2012, 01:06:06 AM
Consider using 6mm terrain. I find 10mm look too big in relation to the entire battlefield.
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 18 October 2012, 01:43:05 PM
I believe that your list is missing Jerry’s Hobby Junction. http://www.jerryshobbyjunction.com/n-european-structures.html (http://www.jerryshobbyjunction.com/n-european-structures.html)These are my favorite 10mm buildings, so far.

-Bryan
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: vladgothic on 18 October 2012, 03:13:19 PM
Thank you all for the responses and info, some good ideas to work with.

Bryan I came across your blog via google, with some of the reviews you have written, very informative and thank you for taking the time to do so I have to say that the company you mention does have a good range, shame they are in the states  :(

Along with WW2 I also have SYW and soon ACW , but also planning ECW, Medieval, samurai and Vietnam....so I will require a fair old range eventually

I should become a hobby estate agent
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: rexhurley on 19 October 2012, 08:11:25 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 18 October 2012, 01:06:06 AM
Consider using 6mm terrain. I find 10mm look too big in relation to the entire battlefield.

spot on I'll post some pics over the weekend but using 6mm buildings setg into city segments/farms etc and they look real fine, hedges make your own from woodlands scenics clump foligae again spot on pics to come, umm trees, woods most recently i'm a convert to Architects of War Woods, gaming wise spot on again
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Coracero on 28 October 2012, 12:14:30 AM
Hi, there's a rather new manufacturer from spain doing 10mm scenery.
http://maestrewargames.comule.com/
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Hertsblue on 28 October 2012, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: Coracero on 28 October 2012, 12:14:30 AM
Hi, there's a rather new manufacturer from spain doing 10mm scenery.
http://maestrewargames.comule.com/

They look rather nice - and reasonably priced too.
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: sunjester on 28 October 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Coracero on 28 October 2012, 12:14:30 AM
Hi, there's a rather new manufacturer from spain doing 10mm scenery.
http://maestrewargames.comule.com/

I ordered some of these and was disappointed. the detail is fantastic but they are very small. He says 10mm on the website but the Dutch village set was much smaller that the buildings from The Square, which are sold as 1/200th!
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: vladgothic on 02 November 2012, 04:57:41 PM
That's a real shame as they are cracking.

I came across this company

http://www.levenminiatures.co.uk/index.htm (http://www.levenminiatures.co.uk/index.htm)

Predominantly 6mm but they do have a tab for 10/12mm for future products, Their 6mm range to date looks great so hopefully they will replicate with the larger scale.
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 November 2012, 12:29:12 AM
There's an appealing church on the first page which I can't find in the catalogue....
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: mollinary on 03 November 2012, 07:38:11 AM
FK,

Look in the preview section. It is a large 6mm Russian church and hasn't been released yet.


Mollinary
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 November 2012, 08:36:11 AM
Ta.
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Pruneau on 17 November 2012, 10:43:51 AM
I find that for WW2, i prefer bigger buildings where units can actually sit inside.  Since my fireteam base size is a sq inch, this means a lot of the smaller buildings are not suitable for my play style.  However, I find 15 mm buildings often do the trick for this kind of play.  I havegotten quite a bit of new stuff, some 10 mm but mostly 15 mm, on the crisis show, and I think they'll do just fine.

I also have some excellent looking 10 mm scenery, that I just find too small.  Matter of fact, they're not, it's my playstyle that is out of whack, considering I use a 1 cm = 10 m scale.

However, if you're doing naps or acw or ecw, I suspect smaller buildings will do the trick just fine.
Title: Re: some info re scenery
Post by: Hertsblue on 17 November 2012, 10:52:23 AM
The "N" gauge model railway buildings are a good fit for 10mm. Faller and Pola (if they're still around). The models tend to be "germanic" in style of course.