About time these two got into a fight...to be fought using WMA & WMMA; battlelines are drawn:
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Hoping to get this one fought tomorrow...
Ohh, looks fabulous.
We want a live turn-by-turn report!
I've got popcorn waiting! :D
that's a coincidence, am building a Saracen army at the moment, but in 20mm! And at 1:20 ratio....
Mark
Quote from: sultanbev on 02 June 2012, 09:02:52 PM
that's a coincidence, am building a Saracen army at the moment, but in 20mm! And at 1:20 ratio....
Mark
Weirdo ;) :P ;D :d
Cool Nik !! I am building a Teutonic Ka Nigits army also. Looking forward to seeing this one played out, how are you mixing the WMA and WMMA, duh never mind. WMA rules and armies build using WMMA right :P
Yep - they certainly do :)
"am building a Saracen army at the moment, but in 20mm!"
Does that mean the army is twice the size.... :-[
Quote from: Nosher on 02 June 2012, 10:21:29 PM
"am building a Saracen army at the moment, but in 20mm!"
Does that mean the army is twice the size.... :-[
Only vertically :d
Quote from: nikharwood on 02 June 2012, 10:50:42 PM
Only vertically :d
I thought that only applied to the Totty Thread :d
wow that is long expected batreport for me... since you started with your araby army. Too much questions around my head...
Which armylist are you using? Jerusalem and salahadim?
are you using WMM reaction charges or did you choose to use skirmishers rules?
How many points?
Did they are near Karnak?
What will be the consecuences of a chrisitan victory?
How many beers will you consume during the battle?
What is the animal faster of the world?
Did I turned off the oven before going to work today?
as you see ... to much questions around my head
Quote from: jchaos79 on 03 June 2012, 08:14:38 AM
wow that is long expected batreport for me... since you started with your araby army. Too much questions around my head...
Which armylist are you using? Jerusalem and salahadim?
Yep :)
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are you using WMM reaction charges or did you choose to use skirmishers rules?
How many points?
Yes - and no idea...I'll add them up later ;)
QuoteDid they are near Karnak?
What will be the consecuences of a chrisitan victory?
Miles away...consequences of a Christian victory: much quaffing and back-slapping I suspect :D
QuoteHow many beers will you consume during the battle?
Now that is a good question - how many would you recommend?
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What is the animal faster of the world?
Me - on a cheetah...base-jumping :d
QuoteDid I turned off the oven before going to work today?
You'll find out when you get home - or to that charred, smouldering pit where your home used to be :o
Quoteas you see ... to much questions around my head
And hopefully enough answers in mine ;D
Thanks for the detail answers, looking forward to see your pendraken figures in action!
Let me notice, that in WMM if you choose reaction countercharges then skirmishers rules from WMA are disalowed. I am sure you know that, but is a very forgotten rule and I like to highlight for the people who could read this!
Happy battle then!
Anyone know where I could get a copy of the WMM rules and army lists?
Cool - a useful reminder :)
Points-wise, these are about 1000 each: I make the Crusaders 995 & Salah-ah-Din's mob about 1010
On the basis that you didn't recommend a number of beers for this battle, I'm going to make a command roll for another beer as soon as I finish one...I'm going to start with CV10 ;)
Quote from: Blaker on 03 June 2012, 04:39:47 PM
Anyone know where I could get a copy of the WMM rules and army lists?
Ebay is probably your best bet nowadays Blake...or bung a shout onto TMP?
Quote from: nikharwood on 03 June 2012, 04:41:34 PM
On the basis that you didn't recommend a number of beers for this battle, I'm going to make a command roll for another beer as soon as I finish one...I'm going to start with CV10 ;)
And if you command blunder??
I recommend you punish yourself with a single malt ;) If you get a command bonus make it a double :)
I definitely blundered tonight - ended up not being able to scoot out to the garage...so painted some stuff instead - and then started the drinking game...currently passed 4 CV rolls :D
Right - found time for Phase 1 today - with help from Isaac (aged 5) who took Salah-ah-Din's command; he won the roll for first turn and immediately advanced his cavalry on both flanks:
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The main body of the army stayed put though - their commander didn't seem particularly worried, it must be said:
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In response, I got the Sergeants moving on my left flank to within striking range of the Turkish horse archers; Isaac reacted and the forces engaged - two swift rounds of combat and the Crusaders had the best of it:
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End of the first turn looked like this:
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On the left flank, some careful tactics from Isaac (did I mention that he's 5?) brought the cavalry first to the crest of the hill in order to shoot with this archers and then, selecting targets carefully, brought them charging into the Crusader lines:
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This got quite bloody, quickly...with casualties on both sides - ended up looking like this - Isaac (5yr tactician) not wanting to withdraw his cavalry to be within the charge arc of the knights...
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On the right flank, battle was joined again - with a fairly decisive result in favour of the Crusaders who fell back to consolidate on the hill:
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In the centre, Salah-ah-Din finally got his infantry moving, the left brigade moving up past the rocky outcrop...phase 2 to follow...
Cool report Nik, Gotta root for Isaac here - juts coz he's trying really hard! 8)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 June 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Cool report Nik, Gotta root for Isaac here - juts coz he's trying really hard! 8)
He didn't want to play any more this evening - wanted to bounce on the trampoline instead...I'll see if I can convince him to chuck dice again in the morning!
Excellent, looking forward to seeing this pan out!
8)
Great to see Isaac playing and he has grown since I last saw him! My kids show absolutely no interest in my games, other than Thomas showing up with his Daleks to shoot everything in sight :).
His interest didn't *quite* hold out today - he wanted to have these on his side as well...
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You'll see him playing with these on a table corner later on...
Right - off we go:
We left this with Salah-ah-Din having moved his infantry forwards and split some of the cohesion of his army:
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In the Crusaders turn, the right flank took the fight to the somewhat isolated units that were playing dodge-the-knights:
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...with largely expected results:
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On the left flank, the Sergeants failed to move off the hill, whilst in the centre the Crusader infantry repositioned themselves to face the threat better:
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In the next turn, the Horse Archers and Faris on the right flank charged towards the sergeants who reacted and they engaged:
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The results weren't pretty...
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The spearmen in the right-centre advanced further - but then stalled, leaving the centre looking a bit ragged:
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Over on the left flank, the combat was brutal:
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In the Crusader turn, the infantry charged up the hill into the archers - who were clearly spooked by this bravery and missed with their shooting as the Crusaders closed:
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The Crusaders really got their act together now and pressed their advantage fiercely - the knights joining the fray with a vengeance, supported by infantry to both flanks:
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Not to be left out, the Sergeants on the left continued their charge into the archers:
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This was the critical point of the battle - both forces enjoined:
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The fighting was fierce, with no quarter given by either side - combat ebbed and flowed, but the Crusaders gained the upper hand as the knights rode down the front-ranking units of spearmen:
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They clattered on into the next ranks:
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The Crusader infantry on the left was pushed back - but with the Sergeants rampaging through the archers, things looked bleak for Salah-ah-Din:
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...who was left with no option but to withdraw:
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To the victor, the spoils...
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What a great game - I'd forgotten how much I love Warmaster Ancients, and this was a really enjoyable battle - lots of ebb and flow and then crunching, decisive combat for the endgame. Superb - and (if I do say so myself) this looked top-notch on the table...a real bonus that Isaac enjoyed this (at times!) and 'got' some of the key core mechanics. I'll let him off for wanting to introduce some giant undead into the mix - he is only five, after all :D
So you beat a five year old, Nik. I think you should have allowed the zombies as your handicap. :d
Quote from: Hertsblue on 05 June 2012, 08:21:52 PM
So you beat a five year old, Nik. I think you should have allowed the zombies as your handicap. :d
To be fair, he'd gone into the garden quite a while before the end of the battle...so I only really beat myself :)
Really cool report. It was a long time since I did enjoy a battlereport as much as yours!
Never forget the quality of warmaster it is a great game not in his best hours.
Thanks for sharing, and looking forward to see more reports.
Thanks jc :)
I'm now tempted to get some more medievals - time to go watch Joan of Arc again I think 8)
Quote from: nikharwood on 06 June 2012, 06:33:21 PM
time to go watch Joan of Arc again I think 8)
Mila Jovovich, Leelee Sobieski, or a host of others?
I just hope you don't get distracted too much :D
Such lovely distraction though :-[
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(http://www.womanissue.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Milla-Jovovich-10-573x430.jpg)
So I sense that in order to beat your five year old you send him off to the trampoline. Perhaps the Crusads should have tried this in the Holy Land - deploying trampolines as decoys ....
Yep - works even better now cos he's six and therefore even more tactically astute ;)
:-bd great show!