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Wider Wargaming => General Discussion => Topic started by: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 02:18:40 AM

Title: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 02:18:40 AM
Should rules distinguish between cataphracts and kittenaphracts?
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: d_Guy on 05 April 2020, 03:27:43 AM
My magic 8 ball says, "signs point to yes".
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: pierre the shy on 05 April 2020, 04:34:12 AM
Only if you still play WRG 6th or 7th edition Ancients and have a PhD in Barkerese interpretation.....
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Glorfindel on 05 April 2020, 07:40:35 AM
I assume that no mushrooms were harmed in the making of this thread ?
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: fred. on 05 April 2020, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 02:18:40 AM
.... and kittenaphracts?

Pictures required
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: flamingpig0 on 05 April 2020, 08:53:33 AM
Why not- DBMM has rules for shipwrecked elephants
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: fred. on 05 April 2020, 08:32:20 AM
Pictures required

Ying tong iddle i po
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 April 2020, 09:17:54 AM
Thought EHC were 1/2 armoured, or with none metallic armour (ie Assyrians), SHC were in full metal armour, then there were EHK, and SHK.....
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 09:22:00 AM
And that's why WRG went the way of the dodo, the steam helicopter, the British empire, and Harry Potter.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 April 2020, 09:25:39 AM
Ok!
Don't diss steam helicopters!
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 09:26:38 AM
I heap cinders on my contrite head.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 April 2020, 10:18:26 AM
If you are not careful I'll root out my copy of 6th and put the definitions on here !
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 05 April 2020, 11:18:51 AM
Maybe the question should be "How many weights of cavalry is too many?"

Much will depend on your era of warfare.
But if light and heavy is sufficient for your chariots, and Indian and African is sufficient for your elephants, I struggle to see why 7 or 8 grades of horseman are really necessary.

My experience of Napoleonics shows a correlation of "More cavalry weights" => Worse rules.

Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 01:21:30 PM
I agree, but was only making a silly pun, though it seems to be in danger of turning into a real discussion of a rules issue.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Raider4 on 05 April 2020, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 April 2020, 09:22:00 AM
. . . and Harry Potter.

There was a fad that lasted far too long. The films seem to have been designed to provide a large number of aging British thespians a comfortable retirement.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 April 2020, 01:52:20 PM
Cataphracts should be fielded as an element of Knights, Kittenaphracts are fielded as a Rider element.

Either may dismount, counting as Sneakers if they do so, but must start the game as such and may not remount.

FK may be fielded as either a God or Dragon element - powerful but erratic and unreliable troop types  :P

:D :D :D :D

Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 April 2020, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 05 April 2020, 01:45:18 PM
There was a fad that lasted far too long. The films seem to have been designed to provide a large number of aging British thespians a comfortable retirement.

Loved the books, as did almost all of the family and many friends. Enjoyed the films. Looking forward to the next Fantastiic Beasts film.

Any author who can get as many children reading, and parents reading to children, as J K Rowling did is to be applauded, in my book.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Big Insect on 05 April 2020, 05:40:07 PM
Then there was that 5th edition old favorite - "Hostile Huns" ... always a good one to pull out of the bag on your opponent.
I think just one element/unit in an army was good enough to justify the effect (which was something totally disproportionate but I cannot remember what - just that every army that had even so much as heard a rumor about huns had to have at least 1 base in the list).
You could apply something similar for Kittenfracts ... which should not be confused with Kittencrads of course.

Then there was Berserkers - or maybe that is just the Greebo effect (switching from JKRowlin to Terry Pratchett ... gourd rest is soul gov'ner)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 April 2020, 07:13:04 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 05 April 2020, 05:40:07 PM
which should not be confused with Kittencrads of course.

Do you mean Kittenrads - the semitracked motorbikes of the Furred Reich?
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: flamingpig0 on 05 April 2020, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 05 April 2020, 07:13:04 PM
Do you mean Kittenrads - the semitracked motorbikes of the Furred Reich?
The world has gone insane
https://youtu.be/LOVgONphbJo (https://youtu.be/LOVgONphbJo)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: mollinary on 05 April 2020, 08:25:55 PM
It was widely known that they formed a part of all armies, hence the phrase 'the whole kitten caboodle'. I'll get my coat!
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: paulr on 06 April 2020, 02:54:22 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 05 April 2020, 01:57:56 PM
Any author who can get as many children reading, and parents reading to children, as J K Rowling did is to be applauded, in my book.

Seconded =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 April 2020, 02:59:02 AM
I remember a schoolteacher's telling us in his Latin class that a bootlegged Lady Chat did the same thing in his schooldays. In his words, "When you picked it up, it fell open at the appropriate pages."

One of the laziest teachers I remember, and one of the best. They often go together.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 April 2020, 06:49:11 AM
Pity they didnt bar the rest of D.H. Lollipop's  out put, along with Charlie Dickens, two of the most boring authors in the world....
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: flamingpig0 on 06 April 2020, 07:46:03 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 April 2020, 06:49:11 AM
Pity they didnt bar the rest of D.H. Lollipop's  out put, along with Charlie Dickens, two of the most boring authors in the world....

I tend to agree with you about Dickens I  find iit  little short of action.

Also. I have never ever forgiven my school for forcing me to read Pride ad Prejudice  as it was  the set text for the educational year.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 April 2020, 08:37:02 AM
WE wuz forced to read sons and lovers, utterly tedious....and Dickens - never use one word when 100 will do.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 April 2020, 08:43:30 AM
Austen - one of the fifty greatest artists ever; nobody else has so affectionately hated the human race.

Dickens - mix of solid gold and broken polystyrene.

Lawrence - have to agree there; only thing to make his fiction look good is his poetry, which is even worse.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 April 2020, 09:05:07 AM
We were supposed to do Sons & Lovers too.

Didn't think much to it, so picked exam questions where I could do Lord of the Rings instead.

Got an A ... so I guess that worked out OK.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 April 2020, 09:23:16 AM
I got a B for saying Lawrence was too obsessed with his mother's failings and fall from station to middle class...
And that the rocking horse was awful!
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Big Insect on 06 April 2020, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 05 April 2020, 07:13:04 PM
Do you mean Kittenrads - the semitracked motorbikes of the Furred Reich?

Exactly, my dear Watson - spot on!
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 06 April 2020, 06:21:38 PM
Shouldn't kittenaphracts be subdivided into light and heavy armoured kitties?
(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/black-leather-cat-armor-schnabuble-3.jpg)(https://external-preview.redd.it/O6EWxMIRpYzevJ4dJ5s893XppHydLrG6V0UjTgje8YU.jpg?auto=webp&s=009114c894be99ab8183a1e588fbf6ce39600841)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 April 2020, 06:25:28 PM
Top one is clearly for getting action on Saturday night at the Nine Lives singles and catnip bar.
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Sandinista on 07 April 2020, 11:32:00 AM
Light Heavy Kittenphracts, in loose order?
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Post by: O Dinas Powys on 07 April 2020, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: Scorpio_Rocks on 06 April 2020, 06:21:38 PM
(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/black-leather-cat-armor-schnabuble-3.jpg)

You expect me to go out dressed like THIS?!
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 07 April 2020, 01:47:04 PM
:)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 April 2020, 02:18:19 PM
The arms race is on .... :D :D :D

(http://petslady.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/06bronzrat.img_assist_custom.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/btrrcvwh.png)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Leon on 07 April 2020, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 07 April 2020, 02:18:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/btrrcvwh.png)

I want one...
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 April 2020, 02:29:07 PM
See....  :D

(https://i0.wp.com/japaninsides.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1-10.jpg?w=700&ssl=1)(https://hips.hearstapps.com/pop.h-cdn.co/assets/17/23/768x384/landscape-1496938561-hwpg1nzxx81cho0xiiqc.jpg?resize=768:*)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 April 2020, 02:37:40 PM
A matched pair Leon? Cat and mouse?

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/cats-and-mice-armour-jeff-deboer-12.jpg)
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 April 2020, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 07 April 2020, 02:18:19 PM
The arms race is on .... :D :D :D

(http://petslady.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/06bronzrat.img_assist_custom.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/btrrcvwh.png)

The rat race, isn't it?
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 April 2020, 03:01:40 PM
Oh, the things one does when too tired to go to sleep....
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 07 April 2020, 03:03:33 PM
Kittys would have to be open order, ever tried herding them ?  :D
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 April 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 07 April 2020, 03:03:33 PM
Kittys would have to be open order, ever tried herding them ?  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwJzTsb2QQ
Title: Re: EHC/SHC
Post by: Leon on 07 April 2020, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 07 April 2020, 02:37:40 PM
A matched pair Leon? Cat and mouse?

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/cats-and-mice-armour-jeff-deboer-12.jpg)

No thanks, cats are devil creatures...

*... runs off to hide before FK sees that and throws Aztecs at me...