Well its that time of year, the time to start a new imaginatively named topic!
Welcome to my 2015 Painting Diary - last year's was a bumper 791 posts, 21700 views, and I was able to keep up a steady flow of photos and posts. This was a major improvement over the previous years where each topic had 150-180 posts and posting was quite erratic during the period.
For help finding the old threads here are the links
2014 http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9178.0.html
2013 http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6626.0.html
2012 http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4379.0.html
At the start of last year, I was hoping to make progress with my Lizardman army (for at least the second year running!) well towards the end of last year I finally made significant in-roads into that army. And I really would quite like to get in finished quite soon - and I think that is very achievable.
Other painting goals - my late war WWI British have been under coated and painted brown, so really don't need too much effort to finish.
More Mongols, to give me a playable force.
I am quite tempted by some Colonial forces, perhaps British and Zulu?
Still rather on the back burner are my Late Romans (well named!!) as well as LoA and Orcs.
I could also do to get my Araby heavy cavalry painted - this would increase the fighting strength of this army dramatically for relatively few figures.
And then there are always more additions to my Empire army...
Lizardmen
Whats need to finish these chaps off
12 stands of warriors - 80% painted
6 stands of salamanders - 80% painted
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3 dinosaurs - undercoated and based
4 stands of lizard riders (1 blue, 3 mottled green)
10 stands of skink skirmishers, undercoated green
4 flyers - black base coated
5 wizards + standard bearers
12 stands of warriors, prepped, need base coating.
2 running dinosaurs / 15mm riders, prepped, need base coating
Then there is some terrain / scenery. Some jungle bases and perhaps a stepped aztec style temple made from blue foam.
:-bd again, Fred.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 01 January 2015, 08:56:36 PM
At the start of last year, I was hoping to make progress with my Lizardman army (for at least the second year running!) well towards the end of last year I finally made significant in-roads into that army. And I really would quite like to get in finished quite soon - and I think that is very achievable.
Another year begins full of good intentions ;) ;D
Quote from: paulr on 01 January 2015, 09:33:43 PM
Another year begins full of good intentions ;) ;D
Well I hope with this one I have a good start and a following wind...
But some new shiny will undoubtable be along before too long ;)
Cracking start sir.
Ta ML
I have now got all the white bits covered on the lizardmen - mainly loin cloths in shades of brown - not sure why lizardmen need loin cloths...
Next is the yellow stripe down the tails and backs - then any tidying up, and general highlighting.
Quote from: fred 12df on 01 January 2015, 10:27:17 PM
- not sure why lizardmen need loin cloths...
Because they like to pretend they're civilized ? :-\
Cheers - Phil
Because Lionmen wear Liazrdcloths.
OWWWWW
IanS
Excellent start to 2015.😀
Start as you mean to go on, I say. :D
Happy New Year, Fred. I hope 2015 will be as productive as last year was. :)
love the salamanders with these vivid red spine
So only a couple of days into the new year, and I have already been distracted by the thought of Tyranids for Epic 40k!! It takes quite a bit of digging and understanding to try to get your head around a new game with new armies with all the original figures out of production. But I think I have now got half an idea of what the various bugs are supposed to look like, and where you can actually buy some of them. But first things first, is to actually play a game of Epic Armageddon this Friday.
Back to the real world of 10mm
Lizardmen
Got these chaps based up this evening - using wood filler for the main basing. I had planned on getting 5 figures to a base - but due to the two directions of the poses, I was only able to get 4 - which gave me 3 extra bases of figures, so not all bad!
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I will need to touch up the cast bases of the figures, as I have painted them a bit too light a brown. Then add jungle effects to the bases.
I have realised that I forgot to base up the Salamanders at the same time - they will have to wait for another night now.
This is half the main infantry based up - the rest need putting on painting sticks and spraying, hopefully at the weekend.
Good Lizzies! :D
Looking good :)
so do you put the wood filler on and press the figures into it or glue the figures on and wood filler around them?
Lovely stuff, Fred ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Maenoferren on 06 January 2015, 11:58:02 PM
so do you put the wood filler on and press the figures into it or glue the figures on and wood filler around them?
Put on a layer of filler, and press the figures in. Then poke around with a cocktail stick to get rid of any bumps.
Takes a while (overnight) to dry, but once dry it's nice and solid.
It seems slow at the time, but has so many less steps than glue figures, glue sand, seal sand, paint sand. That I think it is quite a bit quicker overall. I think it represents mud / wet ground much better than sand bases too.
Not much painting recently, but managed a bit last night and late this afternoon.
Darkened up the bases on the lizardmen, so they blend with the basing material and tidied up any white bits showing on the green of their skin. Then today did some basing
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Shot from above to give more of a view of the different colours to represent jungle plants.
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The next step is to add various bits of foliage to give a 3D look to the jungle plants
Done a bit of a count up of what's still to do on this army
Add plastic foliage to bases - approx 40.
Base - 6 stands of Salamanders
Ready to Paint
Lizard Riders - 4 painting sticks
Infantry - 4 painting sticks
Flyers - 4
Big Dinosaurs - 3
Command figures
To Base Coat
Approx 15 bases of Lizardmen (the same again as painted above). The next job is to get these onto painting sticks - then hope for a decent bit of weather....
2 Large Dino riders
Magnetic basing - lots and lots
Good work Fred! 8)
Those reptile still growing!
8)
Cheers - Phil
You stealing Leon's schtick?
8)
In a change of direction - I bought a big lot of Jacobite Rebellion Scots and British second hand. A lot of the British were painted but very few of the scots. But they are on 20mm squares - so I have been doing some cutting up of the plastic card they are on, to allow some rebasing. Onto 40mm squares, 2 deep lines for the formed troops and masses for the highlanders. The figures needed a bit of a tidy up after shipping, so I thought it was a good opportunity to re-base them.
Also as the highlanders are based 5-6 on a 20mm square, I'm not sure how I would paint them anyway.
I think I will use Victorian Steel rules for this, even if they are aimed at 100 years later - but I hope they will represent the asymmetric forces quite well.
Would not want to meet those even on a bright moonlit night.
Quote from: Leman on 25 January 2015, 10:39:00 PM
Would not want to meet those even on a bright moonlit night.
Surely they would be comatose at night, being cold-blooded....
IanS
Wouldn't want to meet them anywhere - without a mountain range in between.
This hasn't been going well has it!!
I've been massively distracted by Epic Armageddon - yes, years old Sci Fi rules. I've never really gamed Sci Fi before - despite really liking SF books. I have been building a Tyranid army - I know little of the 40k background, but am happy to build an eat your face bug army. This is rather different from my Fantasy armies which are generally quite shooty.
I've bought a lot of stuff (very little from Pendraken, hence no photos) - and have been painting it as it arrives though the door - in fact slowness of deliveries is holding up painting now! The last delivery (from Pendraken!!) of 10 alien creatures. Half of these are painted and based already - and they only arrived on Thursday.
Here's a couple of WIP photos
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I suppose I better get something together for the painting comp - really should have done this yesterday as it was sunny for much of the day - unlike today which is a serious return of winter.
Love the epic system ;)
Like those tentacle (careful with predictive there ;) ) aliens; are they modified dungeon things?
The ones on the round bases in the first photo?
They are 28mm Tyranid bits - (actually everything in the first photo is, second photo is mainly Onslaught) I forget what they are called, but are fairly readily available on eBay - try rippers or spore mines, as they seem to come with those.
They really look like one of Pendraken's dungeon beasties; really good anyway ;)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CpdflCpUMQ8/VOpXVqfCjmI/AAAAAAAAETc/1bBqyWABIFk/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
So all the 'nids on hand are now painted! (Can you spot the Pendraken figures?)
Most sort some painting comp stuff out the rest of this week now...
They are fantastic, shame they're not all Pd, would make a cracking army entry ;)
Lovely stuff, Fred ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Nice army Fred!
Thanks chaps
(Why is that every time I att mot to type chaps I type chaos??) even when typing this line, I did it.
Because Chaos is my middle name!
So we don't get sidetracked, I shall start a thread entitled mistryping at once ! ;)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 23 February 2015, 07:51:06 AM
Thanks chaps
(Why is that every time I att mot to type chaps I type chaos??) even when typing this line, I did it.
Should see some of the things my tablet has "learned" on predictive text; it offers suggestions for my next word and about 90% of it is forum related ;)
Managed to pop home at lunch time and take some photos in daylight - nearly 200 photos taken on 8 painting comp subjects. Far too many of the photos are poor - I think I need to spend more time framing and ensuring the camera is steady, rather than clicking like a madman.
Spent quite a while going through and trying to pick decent ones for the painting comp - still struggle to choose the best angle to show off the figure
I liked this one, but didn't think it worked for the comp
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Nice work Fred :-bd
What is the "thing" towing the gun. Looks like a steam engine.
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Search.aspx?Search=traction%20&AllWords=False
Quote from: Fenton on 25 February 2015, 10:59:54 PM
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Search.aspx?Search=traction%20&AllWords=False
Well there you go; cheers Steve ;)
Great engine work Fred! 8)
Quote from: fred 12df on 25 February 2015, 10:46:31 PM
I think I need to spend more time framing and ensuring the camera is steady, rather than clicking like a madman.
Great advice for all photographers, shame we don't follow it more ;)
Quote from: fred 12df on 25 February 2015, 10:46:31 PM
I liked this one, but didn't think it worked for the comp
I agree with both points ;) ;D
Quote from: getagrip on 25 February 2015, 10:50:08 PM
Nice work Fred :-bd
What is the "thing" towing the gun. Looks like a steam engine.
This is actually the Holt Artillary tractor model http://www.pendraken.co.uk/BP60-p6979/
Which is available as well as the traction engines linked to by Fenton - it's a beast of a model.
Quote from: fred 12df on 26 February 2015, 07:52:48 AM
This is actually the Holt Artillary tractor model http://www.pendraken.co.uk/BP60-p6979/
Which is available as well as the traction engines linked to by Fenton - it's a beast of a model.
How did that thing actually function near a battlefield? :o
Slowly!
There weren't many other options for moving big guns. It would need a lot of horses, or even more men.
These tractors weren't really for use at the front line, the guns they were used to move had ranges of several miles.
I think there were fairly succesful, but only available in small numbers. Some of the first tank designs used Holt tractors as the chassis.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 February 2015, 08:28:50 AM
Slowly!
;D :P
Quote from: fred 12df on 26 February 2015, 02:08:33 PM
There weren't many other options for moving big guns. It would need a lot of horses, or even more men.
These tractors weren't really for use at the front line, the guns they were used to move had ranges of several miles.
I think there were fairly succesful, but only available in small numbers. Some of the first tank designs used Holt tractors as the chassis.
Thanks for the history; really impressive piece of kit ;)
Been busy painting and playing - but not much Pendraken stuff recently, so not many updates here.
Got a big parcel from Leon today
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Bases (obviously :-[ ) for two projects, the final few bases for my Epic Tyranids (and some more red paint for them) and sabot bases for Warband.
I really like the warband tokens these are very nice, and the sabot bases seem to work well - including the custom 2p sized ones. :-bd
Nice picture!
I love the smell of scotched mdf in the morning!
Laser cut MDF does have that special smell.
It really does; love getting parcels like that!
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Big pile of movement trays, with dice holders glued together
Somewhat daunting don't you think? :)
I don't nkow - perhaps if you want to play Jenga with them?
Really finishing these off with some sand paint and flock, will be 100x quicker than rebasing figures.
I ordered meself a big pile of movement trays, and am extremely happy with them.
Mine had the 90mm x 30mm 'ole, 'cos I use 30x30 or 30x15 bases, and each one neatly holds a section of infantry WWII style.
I am pondering though, that with a movement tray, base and figure base, our figures do hover about a 2 foot above the table surface.
Just rebuild your table so it has gaps for the bases!
;D ;D ;D
Possibly the most static wargame in the history of the hobby.
What can you put on a Warband movement tray?
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Almost anything 10mm it would seem
Regarding the height of movement trays - I seem to vacillate on this. I have made thin movement trays using plastic card, and used these with WM figures on thin plastic bases. But these are quite fiddly to make, and are fairly bendy in use.
I quite like the solidity of an MDF movement base, especially with a good margin around to hold the figures in place. For a movement tray (rather than a sabot base) I do prefer fairly thin edges, so that the size of the unit isn't increased dramatically by the oversized edges.
Chamfer the edges off to reduce the obvious thickness?
Useful photo, Fred ! 8)
Nice idea, Andy.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred 12df on 12 April 2015, 08:30:09 PM
Regarding the height of movement trays - I seem to vacillate on this. I have made thin movement trays using plastic card, and used these with WM figures on thin plastic bases. But these are quite fiddly to make, and are fairly bendy in use.
I quite like the solidity of an MDF movement base, especially with a good margin around to hold the figures in place. For a movement tray (rather than a sabot base) I do prefer fairly thin edges, so that the size of the unit isn't increased dramatically by the oversized edges.
I'm wrestling with the same problem for 6mm Napoleonic, Fred. I want to be able to reform my columns of assault into lines or squares if necessary. But if you put magnetic tape on either the figure-base or the movement tray (my favoured solution) it increases the height of the unit noticeably. I could use thin plasticard trays, but as you say, they tend to flex in play. I've even thought of using Tacky Wax (non-setting adhesive) on the trays to hold the little devils in place, but that might get messy after a while.
So far, no solution that I like.
Quote from: fred 12df on 12 April 2015, 08:30:09 PM
What can you put on a Warband movement tray?
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Almost anything 10mm it would seem
Regarding the height of movement trays - I seem to vacillate on this. I have made thin movement trays using plastic card, and used these with WM figures on thin plastic bases. But these are quite fiddly to make, and are fairly bendy in use.
I quite like the solidity of an MDF movement base, especially with a good margin around to hold the figures in place. For a movement tray (rather than a sabot base) I do prefer fairly thin edges, so that the size of the unit isn't increased dramatically by the oversized edges.
The Wyvern makes MUCH more sense on that base than the piddly little 40x20 one that actually comes with it.
Becoming increasingly tempted by Warband.
Yes the Wyvern fits the bigger base rather better - I really like the size of the WM monsters - but the 40x20mm basing convention was a bit impractical.
I like the look of the 3 giants on 1 base too.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 13 April 2015, 10:32:49 AM
I'm wrestling with the same problem for 6mm Napoleonic, Fred. I want to be able to reform my columns of assault into lines or squares if necessary. But if you put magnetic tape on either the figure-base or the movement tray (my favoured solution) it increases the height of the unit noticeably. I could use thin plasticard trays, but as you say, they tend to flex in play. I've even thought of using Tacky Wax (non-setting adhesive) on the trays to hold the little devils in place, but that might get messy after a while.
What I have noticed, is that once the game starts you don't notice all this stuff at all.
We played a big game a few weeks ago, and set up a city area in the middle, and we were all saying that it looked a bit rubbish having buildings on green grass, and wasn't it a shame that none of us had thought to bring some grey cloth or carpet tiles etc. Which was all perfectly true before the game started and you were looking at the whole table.
Once the game started what you cared about was how the buildings blocked line of sight, not what colour the 'road' was.
Its the same with movement trays - when you assemble them you think they are too chunky - but once the game starts the chunky ones are better, because the figures stay in the right place.
Quote from: fred 12df on 13 April 2015, 01:17:57 PM
Yes the Wyvern fits the bigger base rather better - I really like the size of the WM monsters - but the 40x20mm basing convention was a bit impractical.
I like the look of the 3 giants on 1 base too.
What I have noticed, is that once the game starts you don't notice all this stuff at all.
We played a big game a few weeks ago, and set up a city area in the middle, and we were all saying that it looked a bit rubbish having buildings on green grass, and wasn't it a shame that none of us had thought to bring some grey cloth or carpet tiles etc. Which was all perfectly true before the game started and you were looking at the whole table.
Once the game started what you cared about was how the buildings blocked line of sight, not what colour the 'road' was.
Its the same with movement trays - when you assemble them you think they are too chunky - but once the game starts the chunky ones are better, because the figures stay in the right place.
Good point well made.
Isn't that a "Boggy" lurking on your giant base?
Its the Fen Beast from the Albion pack - he was to hand, whereas the other giants are in a box somewhere...
Quote from: fred 12df on 13 April 2015, 02:20:32 PM
Its the Fen Beast from the Albion pack - he was to hand, whereas the other giants are in a box somewhere...
Thought so. ;)
I've been playing a few solo playtests of the new Kings of War rules (as part of the Kickstarter) - yes I know its not Warband.
Today's battle was Forces of Nature vs Elves. The FoN have quite a lot of Pendraken figures in the army
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The start of the battle
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The mid-game Nature has stomped forward - clearing away the Elven scouts, Elven shooting hasn't done enough damage
On the left the initial vanguard moves allowed the woodland Nature forces get very close, on the left the Centaurs and and Air Elementals caused lots of damage
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The end game - Nature has got forward into combat pretty much across the board.
The heavy hitters in the middle cause lots of damage - the Elven cavalry did well but the shooting wasn't doing great today.
The photos prove it - every wargames table has to have a church....
IanS
And a hill...
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No they don't :P
It's my birthday, yes they do! :P :P :P
;D
Great stuff, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
Another KoW2 solo play test game
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With lots of Pendraken figures playing the part of the Ogres - who handily beat up the poor humans :'( The Ogres are very tough!!
Looking great, again, Fred !
Cheers - Phil
The Warband sabot bases got their first run out today
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11993.new.html#new
And it looks like it will need a few more, as a Warband army can be a fair size!!
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I've been painting up some Jacobites over the last couple of weeks - in a rather piecemeal fashion. Decided to get them based up tonight.
They are still rather work in progress - but I think I have done enough to go for the Harwood method on the rest.
Sorry the photo is pretty dreadful - couldn't get enough light into the front even with a the aid of a reflector (well a bit of folded white paper)
Nice. Maybe tone the blue bonnets down just a shade? :-\
I think that might be more the photo than the paint.
But they will get an overall brown wash at some stage.
Nice minis!
Look damn fine to me, Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Very nice work yet again!! :-bd I find these threads so inspiring but soooo bloody demoralising at the same time!! :-<
Thanks chaps!
Did a bit more work on the bases tonight, another layer of sand in the lower areas, then lots of brown paint.
The photo has come out better too
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The base at the front right (with the flag) was painted by the original owner, the other 3 by me.
I'm wondering about lightening the wood colours - they are currently very dark brown. I always struggle with the wood bit of weapons, all the stuff you see in museums is really dark wood, but is that just because its old, or would it have been stained at the time for durability?
Very nice kit.
Wot Lemmey said !
Cheers - Phil.
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Great job matching the original look :)
Very nice, the Jacobite figures are very nice, i have a small band of them still sitting ready for painting, going to be start of a wee rebellion campaign. Your painting hs given me some good ideas. =D>
Thanks chaps.
Jambo, glad it's given you a bit of inspiration to get going with you Jocobites.
They are some nice figures - and the plaids give them a different look to most other forces. And aren't too hard to do. I have gone with a base colour and one colour of stripe. I did try some with a black marker pen, and this went well on fairly flat surfaces but worked less well on more textured surfaces.
Quote from: fred 12df on 21 April 2015, 09:57:16 PM
'...I'm wondering about lightening the wood colours - they are currently very dark brown. I always struggle with the wood bit of weapons, all the stuff you see in museums is really dark wood, but is that just because its old, or would it have been stained at the time for durability?...'
I would go for a lighter colour although dark or aged wood is probably more accurate. Unfortunately in this scale it just looks dull unless set next to a light colour for a highlight. I use Vallejo Orange Brown -not very accurate but looks good.
Yes I've used Orange Brown on my Mongols (probably from your sugestion :) )I'm not sure about it for these figures - might try a few. You are right that the dark brown just blends in. I might use Vallejo wood stain, which will dark has a nice orange hue to it.
Over the last few games, I'd noticed that my trees were looking a little the worse for wear. So as rain had stopped real gardening, I got the model trees out and sorted through them - pretty much all the armature and clump foliage ones looked like they could do with some 'spring growth'
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and
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So after a couple of hours of UHU fumes and Cricket commentary the forests are looking rather more healthy
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and
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I'm thinking that I will give them a spray with thinned down PVA to try to stop most of the shedding - anyone any ideas on how to do this??
What a damn good question, Forbes.
Would 'ordinary' sprayed matt varnish work ?
I genuinely haven't got a clue, regarding this.
Team ??
Cheers - Phil
For my trees I dip the whole foliage area in a PVA water mix that has the consistency of thick soup and then dip them into my flock colour of choice. While they are still in the flock I squeeze the foliage bits a little to spread the PVA and enhance adhesion. After that I give them a good spray of thinned PVA from one of the garden spray bottles to really seal the surface. Worked a treat on my boards as well.
If I use clump foliage on its own then after gluing the clumps to whatever form of armature I am using at the time with contact adhesive, I then dip them into watered down PVA and hang them upside down to dry. The whole thing sets rock hard.
Quote from: Subedai on 25 April 2015, 06:50:32 PM
If I use clump foliage on its own then after gluing the clumps to whatever form of armature I am using at the time with contact adhesive, I then dip them into watered down PVA and hang them upside down to dry. The whole thing sets rock hard.
I would never of thought of dipping in thinned PVA - doesn't this change the look of the trees?
Various sites talk about spraying in 50/50 PVA water to seal both flock and clump foliage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUCuFz-SKoQ
or
http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/Item/S191/page/1
Quote from: fred 12df on 25 April 2015, 07:00:34 PM
I would never of thought of dipping in thinned PVA - doesn't this change the look of the trees?
Various sites talk about spraying in 50/50 PVA water to seal both flock and clump foliage.
Not really. if the mix is thin enough most of it just runs straight out. Another alternative for more precise coverage is to use an eye dropper or a soft brush to get the PVA mix directly onto and into the clump. The only trouble with this is that the brush picks up bits of foliage as you dab the clump.
People have suggested hair spray, and varnish will work..
IanS
I've tried everything on my Woodland Scenics trees to keep the foliage in place - including UHU, PVA (thinned and full body), and low melt glue gun (needs care on plastic). I've sprayed them with hair lacquer and thinned down PVA - all to no avail. Admittedly, my trees get transported about a lot, but the rate of foliage shedding is frightening.
Best I've come across so far is Deluxe Materials' Scenic Spray Glue, made for model railway layouts. It's expensive but it comes in its own spray bottle.
https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/en/scale-plastics/48-scenic-spray-5060243900326.html (https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/en/scale-plastics/48-scenic-spray-5060243900326.html)
One thing I would advise if you use it - cover the bases of your trees before spraying, otherwise you will find your bases firmly glued to the work-surface! I found this out from bitter experience. :'(
Thanks for all the suggestions chaps.
I went with the spray of diluted PVA - after investing in a spray bottle (79p from Home Bargains). I went about 70:30 water to PVA with a few drops of Future to break surface tension. I struggled to get a mist like spray of the mixture, but could get an OK jet. I gave the trees a good covering from above and the sides. Then later on, sprayed each one on the underside.
It has dried well - nice and matt, and seems to have harden up the foliage (which was glued on with UHU). I have also spread the trees out into a second tin - which should help with handling the trees when getting them out and putting them away. I suppose only time will tell how long these last for. I have a photo from Jan 2012 of the first time a lot of these trees were based up - but some may pre-date that. So they have survived 3 years of playing - probably twice a month on average.
Continuing the tree theme, I made up some spooky trees using some plain Woodlands scenics armatures. Sprayed these black with a light overspray of grey. I'm going to string some UHU between branches to look like webs or similar.
Also based up some Pendraken Palm trees and some of the green deciduous ones - hot glue works very well to attach these to coins, to give a bit of weight to the tree.
This weekend I have been building some of the new Perry 28mm WoTR Light Cav ( a friend picked me up a box at Salute)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4TRjjxakw-s/VUefyxh7dAI/AAAAAAAAEnU/JfHEWJMtj1c/s1280/IMG_0936.JPG)
They go together very nicely - I have made 5 mounted archers, and 5 mounted crossbows. Along with a couple of hobliars to go along with several I already have.
But I expect that another box to make more Hobliars is pretty likely.
I also finished off some MAA that I had started a couple of weeks ago - this is only about half a box of heavily armoured troops with two-handed can-openers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KgFpu792j2s/VUefydiStuI/AAAAAAAAEnU/gs8GAdhkOYw/s1280/IMG_0934.JPG)
Nice Fred. :)
Looking good. :)
Cheers - Phil
We played some WWII on Friday, for the first time in ages - we used BKCII and played a North Africa game, set in early 1941. With 3 of the players only having played the odd game before, and it being ages since I'd played. It took a while to get going, but we got in the swing of it fairly quickly.
The game was an Afrika Korps victory, their better tanks and better command told in the end. The main British formation, a mixed Jock column of Matildas, Lorried infantry, and on table 25pdrs struggled with command rolls all game - and although the Germans struggled to get their CO on the board for the first couple of turns (even with CV 10) this didn't end up hampering them too much.
In getting ready for this game, and showing some of my other WWII models to a mate, I realised how dis-organised my stuff was, so I have dragged most of the boxes and drawers out this weekend, and sorted most stuff out - and took the chance to take some photos.
First up, the North Africa Stuff
British Infantry
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LT8KdbmperM/VUefoyMvonI/AAAAAAAAEnc/SmnKYJlUbZY/s1280/IMG_0930.JPG)
British Armour - both early and late
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zO4eRepcLhk/VUefqKzzefI/AAAAAAAAEoM/GARnAR-nF40/s1280/IMG_0933.JPG)
Afrika Korps
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p5s0qLytyiU/VUefpuFBwlI/AAAAAAAAEn4/bfrufwxto2o/s1280/IMG_0931.JPG)
Most of these units are not quite finished - all are at least painted, but need some detailing, then a wash and dry brush, and finally some decals.
That bit was straight forward!!
Next up Early War - France 1940
French Forces
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AAPcC3CZv2c/VUefdkKTqiI/AAAAAAAAEoU/DRFmvPPWMJs/s1280/IMG_0922.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vOpE87KmwvM/VUefZeENCDI/AAAAAAAAEos/vjRjELT5fzY/s1280/IMG_0917.JPG)
There are a few BEF units in this drawer too - this is a pretty small force, even if bulked out with infantry or soft-skins from the late war forces.
A decent sized force, with rather a lot of tanks, about half painted, all need decals - but I have some that I picked up from Leon the other year at Salute. Not much of the infantry is painted, but most of the artillery is.
German Blitzkrieg
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ww1XvjzWkjc/VUefYxVljTI/AAAAAAAAEo0/Fbj7X4JgBAY/s1280/IMG_0916.JPG)
A medium sized force, quite a few of the Panzers are fully painted and decalled - but the soft skins and the arty need some work. I don't have dedicated infantry for this force and will use my Late War ones.
The infantry in this drawer is based on small bases for use with Chain of Command (there is more infantry elsewhere.).
Now it starts to get a bit bonkers - the above are all about playable, a force that will fit on the table with a few alternatives.
Late War - Germans - not built around any particular historical formation, but broadly around the forces used in the Market Garden Campaign. So a wide mix to provide assorted Kampfegruppe as needed.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-at6kikosTOo/VUefablVK4I/AAAAAAAAEo8/3yuUhsyo_zY/s1280/IMG_0918.JPG)
Infantry and Artillery (and a lot of the infantry has now been rebased to smaller bases for CoC)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-edmGzYDGzsI/VUefZyTVYzI/AAAAAAAAEpU/TP_nTwLuSVc/s1280/IMG_0919.JPG)
Panzers and half-tracks
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n8pB_GnqRS8/VUfUVh8-XhI/AAAAAAAAEpw/X_aEB9th9kQ/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
And some more - that need a bit of finishing off
Now the small restrained British for NW Europe - this lot is getting on for an Armoured Division at 1:platoon scale.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RPjdTT151fk/VUefekN0VJI/AAAAAAAAEqc/-ARPiGjh08g/s1280/IMG_0925.JPG)
Infantry, with half-tracks for the Motor Battalion.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K6SnBXSas9c/VUefn7DvVUI/AAAAAAAAEqs/y8oGNtPb5c8/s1280/IMG_0928.JPG)
Infantry and Arty
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SFc6U2NfEtU/VUefeDAnyXI/AAAAAAAAEqU/0PZF3WBnsdM/s1280/IMG_0924.JPG)
Armoured Recce Regt and Sherman Regt
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lnKV7sHXWIQ/VUec9PLSppI/AAAAAAAAEqI/SYANFDWf-IM/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Another Armoured Regiment, and lots of soft-skins.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nqrhc5HI6EQ/VUefoZMQDKI/AAAAAAAAEq0/lOKVfQ-dx1I/s1280/IMG_0929.JPG)
Self-propelled Arty and AT. 79th Armoured Div Funnies, and a few Churchills
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1GE_-rBhAgA/VUeffMR1rrI/AAAAAAAAEqk/94YyB4LS4uw/s1280/IMG_0927.JPG)
Stuff!! Armoured Cars for Recce Regt, 17pdrs, heavy arty
Wow! Great figures, what a lovely collection. 8)
Man after my own heart, Fred. Mob-handed or nothing! Keep it up. :-bd
Stroll on ! :o
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps
Now I just need to work out what else I need, and finish off the basing on lots of stuff.
What a great collection Fred, and beautifully painted.
kev
hi Fred that's certainly an impressive collection you've got there. Just one query though I assume that the German Sd.Kfz. 251's are Pendrakens. Where did you get the seated crew figures.
Take care
Andy
Excellent stuff Fred!
(I think you may have a WW2 fixation ;))
It's not a fixation, it's a calling! :D
Andy - the 251s are from another manufacturer beginning with P - and the handy passenger strips come with their transports. I would think these would be quite an easy thing for Phil or one of the other sculptors to put together, especially as there are already seated figures.
I'm not sure it's just a WWII fixation it might be a 10mm one - I make it 14 'A4 layers'* of WII above, and there are 2 more of British Airborne that I forgot to photo. So 16 A4 layers of WWII.
From a very quick count up I think I have 15 A4 layers of Fantasy figures and I have lots of unpainted fantasy stuff as well, but have very little I painted WWII.
There is a bit of other historical stuff too perhaps 4 or 5 layers.
* A4 layers being my new preferred measure of painted figures - even if some of the layers are perhaps foolscap.
Quote from: fred 12df on 05 May 2015, 05:18:32 PM
Andy - the 251s are from another manufacturer beginning with P - and the handy passenger strips come with their transports. I would think these would be quite an easy thing for Phil or one of the other sculptors to put together, especially as there are already seated figures.
Thanks fred much appreciated
Take care
Andy
A few colours blocked on to the 28mm WoTR mounted archers - this is why I like coloured base coats - they are already starting to look half-finished.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YLGTlA4MltY/VUk0443-yzI/AAAAAAAAErM/qV4nMGpVYyc/s1280/IMG_0939.JPG)
Going for a blue and white livery on the mounted archers. Not sure which colour(s) to use for the crossbow men, I'm thinking they are European mercenaries, so don't have to fit with English liveries (I know as mercenaries they may well have not worn a uniform colour, but it makes painting easier, and makes the unit easier to identify on the table!)
Certainly looking good already, Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Bit of a change of direction (third in a week!!)
For the game on Friday I need more 'tank' tyranid bugs - so needed to get a bit more paint on some
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A3k9gyLp2qY/VUqH4ArcWtI/AAAAAAAAErk/hW-ZAtd-8qA/s1280/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Got dark red on all 10, only seem to have got brown on 9 for some reason, and managed to get sand on 3 (the two based ones are to remind me what I am aiming for!)
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
I like those !!
Cheers - Phil
More different stuff this weekend.
Played Epic Armageddon on Friday night - the freshly painted Tyranids did as badly as all other freshly painted troops :(
Painted up some more small Epic gribblies and did some detailing on the bigger ones.
Also painted some small (1/300th) aircraft to accompany my 8th Army Forces - these were may first go with Halfords Grey Car Primer - and I like it!!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zDti0Tr66v4/VU_Ls8SqfLI/AAAAAAAAEr8/MwMBqbdJMCE/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Looking good, again ! :)
Cheers - Phil
Lovely Fred
Thanks chaps.
These were both super quick projects - the Tyranid bugs are largely just dry brushed. And the aircraft have been very easy to paint with fairly thin paint over the grey undercoat, need some decals now.
What make were the aircraft, Fred?
Quotethese were may first go with Halfords Grey Car Primer - and I like it!!
Oddly enough there's a can on the shelf behind me ;)
Looks good - bad luck on the 'Nids first outing :o
With the Grey Primer I always give it a wash of watered down shade wash to highlight all the fiddly bits
The planes are Heriocs and Ros. I've had them about 18mths, and these are first to get paint on. I got a wide selection as a present from my wife a couple of Christmases ago.
These will probably get a wash to shade and blend the paint.
I've got some troops sprayed grey, might give them a wash before painting, to see how it goes.
Impressive stuff Fred :-bd Especially your WW2 collection :o
I have never tried it myself, but I heard guys talk about that stuff regarding foliage sticking to trees: http://www.plastidip.com/
Cheers
Thanks Szymon - need to do a bit of finishing off on the WWII, but now it is getting on the table again, there will be some impetus to get on with things.
The plastidip product looks interesting - not sure what texture it will leave the trees, I suspect a bit like a ball of rubber? But hopefully the latest 'regrowth' will last for a good few years before I have to worry about their foliage again.
TP - generally the 'nids are doing fairly well in Epic games. The ones they struggle in are the ones versus IG who have come prepared to stand back and shoot - and then have space to fall back further when they are attacked. We have managed to win the odd one of these games, mainly because the IG have been so defensive they forget they need to contest some objectives on the 'nid side of the table. The first few games were a struggle when we had too much infantry and not much else, but as the armies have expanded then the games have got better. I'm still less than convinced that the Epic points are remotely balanced.
I haven't even flicked thru the livin rule book let alone played Epic for an alarmingly long time, but iirc 'nids used to be lose-lose-WIN BIG when you just went in unchecked :D
Had a bit of a tidy up tonight - my painting mat had so much dried paint and sand on it, it was getting quite abrasive, and I was worried that in progress models might get scratched.
So this is what it looks like now
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K0vm6tO4ud8/VVJtGDV4SnI/AAAAAAAAEsc/F69lh0UhsEA/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Shiney!!
This is what I took off the painting desk - enough to fill a whole layer of a Really Useful Box
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That is rather too many projects to have on the go at once. 28mm for KoW - which were supposed to be quick wins. Some 10mm Jacobites, 8th Army tanks, two Tyranid Bio-Titans, some 6mm DAK aircraft, and a few random terrain bits.
I also found loads of cocktail sticks and bits of skewer used for mixing paint and moving filler around on bases.
That cutting mat is FAR too clean, Forbes ! ;)
(Or have you turned it upside down ?) :D
Cheers - Phil
Perhaps. Flick back a page to see what it used to look like - a big brown mess....
Various updates from the last few days or so
Played KoW2 with the latest beta lists on Friday night. Elves vs Men, 3000 pts a side - was a great game, initially seemed to be favouring the Men, but the Elves fought, back and eventually their shooting really told taking off a log the KoM infantry in the 4th turn. The work during the beta on the Army Lists has been great - and all by volunteers.
Made some wadi sides on Sunday from Foam board - they look fairly good - but forgot to take photos, and its too cold to go and get them from the conservatory now. But need to make a whole bunch more, as this was only 4 pieces each about 10" long.
Put together some flight stands tonight from some clear acrylic rod that arrived at the end of last week, the base is a large washer, and a Pendraken MDF base. With a magnet at the top of the stand, and another on the bottom of the plane.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rn_mZP6Kyjg/VVpY36vb4jI/AAAAAAAAEs8/mJSBnJQxm5A/s800/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Although the planes are 1/300th I think they look pretty good with the 10mm tank below
Looks good to me, that man ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Very nice Fred
Thanks chaps.
After loads of procrastinating these flight stands were dead easy to make and seem to work well
They look great Fred, consider that idea nicked. I was going to ask where you got the rods from but Amazon seems to be my friend :)
I got mine from eBay. Mainly as I could get singles fairly cheaply. These are 3mm which are quite bendy, and I don't think would work if much loner than the current 15cm
Managed to grab a couple of quick photos of the wadi pieces
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Nna8XaRJgMk/VVuOLt9VhtI/AAAAAAAAEtg/cL_Lq50HwdM/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Need a something to fix the sand in place, and maybe a bit of dry brushing on the dark steep walls.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_YxIzl5ycx0/VVuOM05W3wI/AAAAAAAAEtg/9E9_WkxYGDg/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Not done a lot of painting the last couple of weeks - I seem to have spent a lot of time working on our groups home brew fantasy rules, these had been parked for a while as we have played a lot of Epic Armageddon in the first part of this year. But we have got back to fantasy gaming the last few weeks, which has led to a major review of the rules as we haven't played them for quite some time.
Did do a bit of modelling of the weekend - made up some curved sections of wadi. And stuck together another half of the Perry 28mm Afrika Corps box set - so although two desert projects, both in completely different scales!
Did manage to get in another game of Warband with my eldest daughter (well 2/3rd of a game, we ran out of time)
We played Lizardmen against Dragon Men (looking rather arabic in this outing)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b-GvOwx14NY/VWt1rCm2KII/AAAAAAAAEuI/gYFPB-YhBCk/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
The deployment, lizardmen in woods, dragon men in the distance.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XBjjYUU4z8Y/VWt1o1Z9RsI/AAAAAAAAEuI/RFO_5YVt4rw/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Towards the end - both sides have lost a few units on the left flank. The Men are pushing forward in numbers on the right. The lizards are tying to back off into the woods to gain a defensive advantage as they were all forest walkers.
Good looking game there! 8)
....And nice piccies, too !
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps
Quote from: mad lemmey on 31 May 2015, 11:04:04 PM
Good looking game there! 8)
I think you are being generous, but thanks anyway! It was a fairly quickly put together one, and half the units are just blu-tacked to sabot bases ;)
28mm DAK
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Got the last few stuck together, and filled the arm seams with a bit of putty.
Unusually for a Perry set of figures, these ones are a bit short of rifle arms - there are a few too many MP40s to easily make up a whole platoon - managed to work in a couple of pairs of 8th army ones to fill out the numbers.
I like the fact that with no effort to mix things up that you can create 36 unique minis from the same bodies, just by picking different arms and hats.
I recognise those winged helmets in the back... They an old Citadel Regiment of Renown from the pre-slotta days? I have some in terrible paint jobs from fourteen year old me in the loft somewhere :D
Nice work again, Forbes ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Nice job on those Fred. 8)
Just sold my 15mm DAK, Glasgow, Stockport, Hong Kong and somewhere is Australia!
Quote from: toxicpixie on 01 June 2015, 09:25:10 PM
I recognise those winged helmets in the back... They an old Citadel Regiment of Renown from the pre-slotta days? I have some in terrible paint jobs from fourteen year old me in the loft somewhere :D
Yep, the old skool Knights of Origio. Given a quick tart up, and it gives me 30 sword and shield guys for Kings of War.
The crossbows in front are of a similar age.
Cracking stuff, nothing like a bit of old school action :D
WWI Aircraft
After finally getting round to painting some of the WWII 1/300 aircraft, I realised I need some decals for them - but just buying a few decals would be too simple, so I got some WWI aircraft too.
The first ones I have put together are the early war ones - I have to say these are some of the fiddliest models I have made - the under carriages with struts and wheels, and the struts between the wings of the biplanes - then trying to get the wings offset the right amount. And only 2 of these were biplanes :'( :'( 8 more late war ones - nearly all biplanes ....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UOmGyGFyIqs/VXNivsIW8yI/AAAAAAAAEvA/786URGhYLGw/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Back row: German Rumpler Taube, 2 seater recon, 1914. French Morane-Saulnier N, 1915, British BE2 2 seater light bomber
Front row: German Fokker Eindecker late 1915, German Junkers CL1 1918 (an interloper in this line up), British Sopwith Tabloid
Good grief. :o
Never knew a plane shaped like the Rumpler Taube had ever existed.
Cheers - Phil
It really is the first generation of planes - a collection of string and paper!
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/etrich-rumpler_taube_deutschesmuseum2010_3.jpg)
I don't think this is the correct way to land one
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/poohbigb/Bruchlandung03_Rumpler_taube.jpg)
Must have been very brave to fly one of these - let alone to fly one in a war zone.
And you've not bought triplanes yet!!!
This is why when Wing of War came out with prepainted WWI we all breathed a huge sigh of relief!
Good luck old friend!
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 June 2015, 09:02:23 AM
And you've not bought triplanes yet!!!
This is why when Wing of War came out with prepainted WWI we all breathed a huge sigh of relief!
Good luck old friend!
****, I think there is 1 triplane in the set. >:(
I was rather lulled into the ease of the WWII ones which are mainly single piece castings. ;)
Anyway as it is nice weather this afternoon I will just get them sprayed and can paint them.
Anyone know of a supplier of the Iron Cross style German decals?
Either Dom's Decals or some bloke called Leon who turns up here with a firm called 'Minibits'? ;D
I'd forgotten Leon did decals
And here you go:
(http://www.minibits.net/ProductImages/GR-102.jpg)
I'm getting together an order for Phalanx - so I'll get these added :)
Got the planes sprayed this afternoon, while it was sunny!!
Then this evening have managed to get the main colours blocked in.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pnmV6Ez9n7A/VXS2ciEE_WI/AAAAAAAAEvc/NTrX2pNBG9M/s1024/image1.JPG)
The green Junkers is going to get an attractive purple disruptive camo added!! The others are fairly plain - as it seems at the start of the war most planes were just unpainted canvas. An as can be seen by the red nose of the French plane, they weren't trying to hide!!
Looking good Fred! :)
Tres bon, Forbes ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Got me a Taube, Moraine and Fe2b in 6mm from Irregular to go with my GWSH2 1914/15 armies.
Bet you are going to have fun with the Fe2b
IanS
If you hide you can't joust chivalrously against your fellow knights of the air!
Quote from: Leman on 08 June 2015, 07:47:43 AM
Got me a Taube, Moraine and Fe2b in 6mm from Irregular to go with my GWSH2 1914/15 armies.
This is just what mine are for - though my armies are 10mm
Added some decals to the WWII aircraft, and to some of the WWI ones tonight, and added some detailing and markings to the WWI planes too
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n4xEk6LoyTg/VXYMRdnFgjI/AAAAAAAAEv4/jrHzNaFtyfs/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
These are coming along nicely now. I think the Morane-Saulnier and the Tabloid are pretty much done now. I need some larger RAF roundels with white for the BE2 though.
Great work! :)
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Talley Ho Ginger ;)
:-bd
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps.
Having just received some new figures (from the Warmonger Landsckneckt Arquebusier Kickstarter) I discovered that I had no painting sticks to stick them on to prime them. I use large lolly sticks for this - as they fit about 12 figures on, and are a good size to hold - and they are cheap so I could just get some more, but I think I have about 50 from when I ordered the first lot, so it seems sensible to actually paint some of the figures that are on painting sticks already primed.
So I have had a bit of an inventory:
5 x Jacobites (grey)
1 x Red Coats (black) half full
2 x PD Elf Archers (black)
2 x WM Wood Elf Cav (black)
2 x WM Empire Knights Panther (black)
2 x WM Empire Guards (black)
4 x WMon Zweihanders (grey)
1 x Kal Light Cavalry (black) half painted
2 x TBL Arab Horse Archers (brown)
2 x TBL Arab archers (brown)
4 x TBL Arab crossbows (black)
2 x Arab characters (white + black)
1 x PD Giant Worms (black)
3 x newtmen (green)
1 x Lizardmen mages & heroes (black)
3 x Lizardmen riders (black)
1 x lizardmen riders (blue)
8 x WWI British Infantry (black) half painted
3 x WWI 1914 French Infantry (white)
4 x Perry 28mm WoTR MAA
2 x Perry 28mm WoTR light cav (half painted)
52 55 painting sticks in total !!!
Not quite sure what to do....
Could go for quick wins - sort out the half painted, and part sticks to free up some sticks, so I can spray paint some more stuff. Though that sounds kind of self defeating.
edit
Just found 3 more
3 x Roman Ballistae and Crews (black & brown)
Pick one of the nine projects and crack on :!!
Or is that just crazy talk 8-}
T'interwebs do next day or so delivery on tongue depressors, couple of quid for a hundred. Add a tenth project! Expand! Don't be defeatist!
TP that's not helping. Having loads of in progress stuff isn't helpful I find. It's much better to have bare metal and finished.
In progress stuff is a pain to store and tends to get mislaid.
I need to take Paul's advice and pick something and crack on with it.
But which one? Empire or Lizardmen probably.
;D
What is this "finish a project" you speak of? Con-cen-trate?
Quote from: toxicpixie on 15 June 2015, 09:12:06 AM
;D
What is this "finish a project" you speak of? Con-cen-trate?
THIS!!
I didn't mean finish a project. That never happens there is always something new to add.
I meant finish a unit, or even just a base.
I have for too many partially done figures / units / vehicles. Where it really wouldn't take to much effort to get them out of the in progress pile into the ready to play box.
Quote from: fred 12df on 15 June 2015, 09:09:08 AM
... Having loads of in progress stuff isn't helpful I find. It's much better to have bare metal and finished.
...
I need to take Paul's advice and pick something and crack on with it.
But which one? Empire or Lizardmen probably.
Couldn't agree more, one of the reasons I only have 6 painting rods ;)
Eaiser said than done :-[
Do you have a D9?
Quote from: paulr on 15 June 2015, 09:11:08 PM
Couldn't agree more, one of the reasons I only have 6 painting rods ;)
Very sensible.
Quote from: paulr on 15 June 2015, 09:11:08 PM
Do you have a D9?
No but I have PayPal, and access to the Internet.
Just to increase the madness, I received a nice collection of 28mm Dark Age figures ( and the Saga Cresecent and Cross book) from a chap over on LAF, today.
But I have managed to delay get C&C for over 6 months, but couldn't resist nearly half price. So now I have to work out some crusader armies to field. Definately thinking of 10mm for this, with multiple figures per base.
I've neatly side stepped the full painting stick issue, by painting up some flag markers for our home-brew rules.
We decided we needed a marker to show where a formation was being ordered towards - and I had a rummage in my bits boxes and found ones for several armies
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_zx0CZrU2lI/VYHvUnDQisI/AAAAAAAAEws/2TGa8TCkca0/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Paintings about 75% done, and basing is obviously still to do. (sorry for the blurry photo).
I'm pleased with how they are coming along, and I am pleased with the results of grey base coat, these are some of the first 10mm figures I've done with grey base coat (the aircraft where grey base coated too).
The WWI aircraft are nearly finished - I'm just waiting on some decals, some of which I'll pick up from Leon on Sat.
Nice one Fred!
Looking good, Forbes. 8)
Cheers - Phil
Pop along to Phalanx this afternoon - picked up an order from Leon
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3EMQS927r5s/VYWuzBKylbI/AAAAAAAAExQ/xBf43cNZtQ8/s1024/image1.JPG)
A bunch more Warband sabot bases, and some figures to round out a couple of armies (and some WWI bits)
Also picked up a box of Fireforge foot sergeants - I've been looking at these figures for a while, and with the upcoming release of Frostgrave that was enough to get a box.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DlNcjLX2qbg/VYWuzq8g1CI/AAAAAAAAExQ/ZWgaSskZ22Y/s1024/image2.JPG)
The figures are very nice, and should mix in well with other plastic sets for more variety.
Also picked up a can of desert yellow spray paint for the Perry DAK infantry.
"Some" assembly required, another reason I love 10mm ;)
I quite enjoy building plastic figures - takes me back to when I was a kid and making model tanks and planes. And having the proper tools makes it so much easier than a pen knife and a tube of glue!!
But you are right, 10mm where all you need is a quick once over with a file, and the whole unit is ready, is great.
I've made quite a bit of painting progress over the weekend - and took advantage of some early evening sunlight to take a few photos. Using the proper camera for the first time in ages, rather than quick snaps with the phone or iPad under the desk lamp.
Overview
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--toPi9WIyjQ/VYhfIfCqHfI/AAAAAAAAExo/lTUH69bE3GQ/s1024/IMG_6579.jpg)
The various bits I've got in progress at the minute
1/300 Aircraft, WWI & WWII
Command Flags - Lizardmen, Elves, Empire and Araby
Roman Bolt Throwers
Giant Sand Worms
Empire Lancers & Guards (still on a painting sticks)
I've already freed up 5 painting sticks, and there are two more nearly done in this photo.
WWI Aircraft
These are pretty much finished - just need a coat of matt varnish on the German ones. And I'm waiting on some larger roundels for the BE2
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-llfoWMlnMoE/VYhfL8AFgLI/AAAAAAAAEyY/7oc7dnnyj1o/s1024/IMG_6560.jpg)
And the undersides (I think on the Junkers a spare magnet has stuck on)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9oA_3GDEXGM/VYhfLcur6XI/AAAAAAAAEyQ/dZ52_nQWwdc/s1024/IMG_6563.jpg)
A comparison with the a Hurricane
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zWHC4B0sEsM/VYhfKGGrvaI/AAAAAAAAEyA/RP-8sjfNv48/s1024/IMG_6569.jpg)
Nice planes mate! 8)
Ta ML - I'm really pleased with these - they have come out very nicely for not too much effort.
WWII Planes - British Desert Airforce
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BZ-fX2Ytby8/VYhfKqSJ3xI/AAAAAAAAEyE/QN8VAzFRx5o/s1024/IMG_6567.jpg)
I'd thought these were finished - but I need to paint the magnets over in Azure so that they blend in a bit more.
And as a change of pace
Commanders Flags
These are largely done apart from some decals for the Empire flags, a bit of script on the Araby ones, and something (but I don't know what) on the Lizardmen
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-epO02S4UvF4/VYhfJexOg0I/AAAAAAAAEx0/PpEn5I3LBhI/s1024/IMG_6572.jpg)
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Cheers, Paul.
Late Era Roman Bolt Throwers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vGWporNRd4s/VYhfM80J6XI/AAAAAAAAEyo/8MY7iTLcDfs/s1024/IMG_6554.jpg)
These guys don't really add enough to my force to make it playable - but they have been on painting sticks for years, and there weren't that many figures to paint and get an end result. These are a bit of a kit bash - Imperial Roman Bolt throwers, mounted on washers to give them a little more height, with various light troops from the Late Roman packs with slight tweaks to arm positions and weapon trims to make crews.
Basing obviously needs doing.
Giant Worms
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sIxoMwJLYGw/VYhfN-ij5QI/AAAAAAAAEy0/SJjoVPl9fQs/s1024/IMG_6550.jpg)
Another quick win - these will be added to my Mongol forces to give them a fantastical feel for taking on Orcs and Elves!
The last few photos of this mega update
Imperial Lancers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xztecxwEK5Y/VYhfMc7IkkI/AAAAAAAAEyc/YZuM9ZN63PI/s912/IMG_6557.jpg)
Kallistra figures from a mix of packs - the horses on these figures had been painted a while, so getting the riders done was quite quick.
Imperial Guard
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q4a8iTQjyy4/VYhfOVpOdfI/AAAAAAAAEy8/gSnclLDyho4/s1024/IMG_6547.jpg)
Warmaster figures - got these mostly done last night - fairly quick with a dry brush on the armour, paint the cloaks, then detailing on flesh and hair. Now need some highlights to finish them off.
Got the above chaps on to some bases, after a bit of highlighting to the cloaks, hammers and hair.
I've managed to free up 9 painting sticks, 7 by painting the stuff on them, and 2 by moving the few bits of Araby stuff off them into a bag - these were mainly figures from the command packs that are more suited to dioramas than units of troops.
Going to crack on with painting stuff to clear more sticks, rather than just spraying a load more stuff!
Nice work chap.
Hear, hear !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Sorry, back to crappy phone photos under single direction lighting...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yNeGxL_-gFk/VYxw5T1XywI/AAAAAAAAEzw/tXzQ59gKrv4/s1024/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Got the lizardmen out of their box - 8 painting sticks - mostly base coated in colours. Finished the bases in brown - only 3 sticks I think needed doing. And did purple on the large lizard riders and the stegosaurus style dino.
Nice Fred!
Look forward to seeing those 'ready for the table', Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Teutogen guard, I really like this reference!
Good work Fred.
Did kallistra fit well in height with GW or pendraken?
Kallistra - they are generally quite big!
You may know that Kallistra's original figures were designed to fit with the Pendraken Fantasy range - which is definitely more on the 12mm size, rather than Pendraken historicals which are more at the 10mm end of the size range.
But all 10mm figures are not made equal - for example GW WM Empire Knights are huge - and the Kallistra cavalry go well with them.
One of our group has a couple of Kallistra armies (Dogs of War and Dwarfs) and on the table they don't look out of place against GW or Pendraken figures.
Played around with taking photos a bit tonight
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with some mixed results
Old stand of finished lizard riders - this has photoed quite well
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but a group shot of the tribal lizard riders is still pretty dark
(https://cvws.icloud-content.com/CAEQARoQUdLdcxLjhpVjTaIoCfhPrw/014c963828150a47f19d2b2d8b97882c74c6a40da8/IMG_0016.jpg?v=0&p=1&x=1&a=BdzDO%2BMJGRxRA9MYLA%3D%3D&e=1435700329000&r=0d019210-d4a3-30e3-ae6e-3bf92baf8f48-23&u=1435617229668&c=CoUECuEDCoQDCh1ldS1pcmwtMDAwMDEuczMuYW1hem9uYXdzLmNvbRBQGgNHRVQixgEvTDFQc3ZYQUJUa0U0MXlRQW1pQ20_eC1jbGllbnQtcmVxdWVzdC1pZD0wZDAxOTIxMC1kNGEzLTMwZTMtYWU2ZS0zYmY5MmJhZjhmNDgmRXhwaXJlcz0xNDM1NjE3MjI5JmJ5dGUtcmFuZ2U9MzkzMDgtNTU3MzQ2JkFXU0FjY2Vzc0tleUlkPUFLSUFJV1dSMzNFQ0hLUEMyTFVBJlNpZ25hdHVyZT02dnFyQTV4QUY1eFU3Qjg1a1hyYlpUMGdUanclM0QqBEhUVFAyAzEuMToEaHR0cEIrCgp4LWFtei1kYXRlEh1Nb24sIDI5IEp1biAyMDE1IDIxOjM4OjQ5IEdNVEIbCgVSYW5nZRISYnl0ZXM9MzkzMDgtNTU3MzQ2Qg0KBkFjY2VwdBIDKi8qSglzM19ldV9pcmxSF2N2d3MuaWNsb3VkLWNvbnRlbnQuY29tWOT20YvkKRIwChWBj7s42Sk9C7o7RH83cI1FJe3PkcsSEQG1tRUt2tj_DBtEWQ6mAAw5GJfPHyAAGhRMMVBzdlhBQlRrRTQxeVFBbWlDbSIQQTZHL1hSb0VzcnMycXhNcxIfChUBTJY4KBUKR_GdKy2Ll4gsdMakDagSBAgAEAAoACAC&s=3YWv91oqTNdZTqdEkr1VLKIU6Z8)
A MM dinosaur
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This has come out fairly accurately
Most of the lizardmen are now pretty much painted. I'll give the newtmen a quick black wash, and might be able to get them based up tomorrow night. Then a few flyers and wizards to finish off.
Coolness
Great stuff, Forbes ! :-bd
That's a bit odd, re the photo's.
The light source looks as though it's somehow more above and behind the figures, in that one.....Because of where the shadows are.
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps.
Phil, you are probably right about the light source. With my painting board on the desk it's hard to move stuff back far enough to get the light above and in front. I really need a second light source, but then that just gets in the way when I'm not taking photos.
That the single figure ones came out well, kind of shows the low tolerances on this - a few cm further forwards or back and the lighting suffers. I'm also surprised at how washed out the blue background is in the close up shots compared with the long shot ( which looks pretty accurate for colour).
The Jay Adan you tube channel has lots of interesting tips for taking photos
It's a total swine if there's not enough room on the table !
YEARS ago, I used 3 table lamps (one each side at around 45 degrees to the subject(s) ) and a stronger light above, to knock out as much of the shading as possible) a colour correction filter, plus a tripod, because the exposures ended up being relatively lengthy.
That worked quite well....But I wouldn't have time (or room) to keep setting that up and then taking it down, nowadays.
I've got to have more of a play with the ring flash for the SLR.....That should give decent results and be pretty quick.
Cheers - Phil
I guess you needed loads more room back then to store all the equipment you would need to make the silver nitrate plates
:P ;)
Cheers - Phil
Based up most of the lizardmen that I have been painting recently, and a bunch of GW Salamanders that I had painted a while ago, but hadn't based for some strange reason.
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13 painting sticks cleared now!
Very nice!
those raptor/cold ones have a beautiful intense blue.
Looking good
Very nice indeed, Forbes ! 8)
Are the 'wossnames' that the lizardmen are mounted on different colours ?
I see those as being a rich blue, for the 5 at the front....Purple for the ones at the back.
A trick of the light, or my eyes playing silly b*ggers ?
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps
Phil, the Lizardmen are riding bigger lizards. Yes they are two colours the smaller ones at the front are blue, they were sprayed blue, and given a dark blue wash.
The larger ones are from the tribal Lizardmen range and are purple.
Thanks Forbes !! :)
Cheers - Phil
After a few months ( there always seems to be a gap in the middle of my painting diary threads :o ) I've got back to some 10mm stuff.
Over the summer I was a bit distracted with some 28mm plastics, Frostgrave and Saga Crusaders - which were fun to build, but less fun to paint.
So this weekend I actually put some effort into finishing off some 10mm figures. Both some ones painted earlier in the year, plus some more recent purchases.
First up, some Late Era Roman Ballistae - some light conversions of the various light infantry into crews
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pWwkJ77uh8A/VhLUhWw0fXI/AAAAAAAAE2Q/5KaMQgvIetY/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Some non-Pendraken GW Tuetegon Guards, and Kallistra light cavalry
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fbc8cz-xclE/VhLUlNCJiMI/AAAAAAAAE2g/VMBR2wsRmh0/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
And some Dwarves for Warband
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9_xrZpZ-s0Q/VhLUjXMpzbI/AAAAAAAAE2Y/XR9au7TaEmY/s1024-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I think with these I can just about field a Dwarven force from the various figures I already had.
Great stuff, Fred. 8)
Cheers - Phil
Nice one sir! Good to see you back in the fold!
Thanks chaps. It's good to be back painting units rather than individual figures.
Some more different stuff worked on this week
Spiders
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xV5tPHA9Cxg/VhrJMcaOXZI/AAAAAAAAE3I/CN6AJIFgKh8/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
These are the new ones - and they are a big improvement on the old ones, and they are big too, a good 25mm across the base.
Not totally sure what colour to go with these, grey, brown, something else?
Artillery Bits
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q2fPQzKY07U/VhrJLAguKTI/AAAAAAAAE28/XOU8nrH63FQ/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0047.JPG)
Some Gabions, and some markers for Reload, made from the ECW artillery accessories set (which is very useful for all early horse & musket era armies)
Centaur Archers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9e5Pw18V3Cs/VhrJJkm01YI/AAAAAAAAE2w/kQ9j-fb0awk/s1152-Ic42/IMG_0046.JPG)
Lots of centaur archers, a mix of the new poses and some of the older ones too.
These are about 2/3rds done, a highlight on the flesh to do, and then various detailing.
I'm quite impressed with these photos as they are handheld under the normal desk lamp using my new iPhone, they seem a lot better than ones taken with older iDevices
Lovely work, Fred.
Spiders ?....Try Googling red knee tarantula....There are some nice variants in the images.
(The body is supposed to be based on a tarantula.....With the head of a wolf spider......Don't ask which species....I can't remember :D)
Cheers - Phil
That looks interesting Phil, ta.
(http://www.internetstones.com/image-files/tarantula-red-knee-mexican.jpg)
More work on the Centaur Archers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AUC-tTWfjXo/Vh14E9iGKAI/AAAAAAAAE3Y/3tJgjBhKZOA/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
I think these are pretty much there now, apart from the basing.
Had to make up a new batch of magic wash tonight, with a new version of Pledge. Will be interested to see how this turns out, as the pledge is milky not clear, and has quite a strong smell to it.
These figures are the first full scale test.
Nice one Fred!
Ho, Yus ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Centaur Archers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kyEVhzvUiVA/Vh7J-GfiezI/AAAAAAAAE3w/5_HWsnY7bGk/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Bases painted brown - but looks rather patchy now its dried so will need some touching up. The new magic wash seems to have worked OK, added a bit of depth to the browns.
Wasn't brave enough to try the red knees on the spider, so went with Warmonger Zweihanders - just blocked in black, mainly as a base coat for metal
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UaDSFoCEeQ4/Vh7J8o6pEfI/AAAAAAAAE3o/Dmbd7mP9YAE/s1152-Ic42/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Quite like the monochrome look of this photo
Nice
8)
Cheers - Phil
Looking good, the spiders are nice, I painted some black with yellow strips and the results was good. You should try.
Zweihanders are nice figures.
Fred, can I ask you what games do you play ?
I am liking the red knee paint scheme Phil suggested, I just need to work out how to execute it. But yellow stripes could work too. All 3 don't have to be the same.
Games - main fantasy game is a home brewed set of rules - which is a mash up of Warmaster, Kings of War and probably several other systems. Which our group is enjoying. It's finally getting to a degree of completion after about 18mts of tinkering. But also play other stuff, some Warband recently, which I have enjoyed as it is a very different feel of game. BKC is back on the table as a recently returned member of our group is very in to WWII.
Also 28mm skirmish stuff like Frostgrave, IHMN, and Saga.
Also trying to get in more games of Great War Spearhead for WWI
We were playing some chain of command, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside a bit.
At the start of the year we were playing loads of Epic for several months.
Really too many systems and not enough time to play them.
What I need is some sort of wargaming grant to allow me to spend more time gaming and less time working.
I think that you've got a lot of options with the Red Knee type(s), Forbes. :).
Looking forward to seeing what you can do......It'll be zippy.... I know it will.
Cheers - Phil
Zweihanders
Brown on bases, and oily steel on weapons and armour
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Centaur Archers
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filled in most of the missing gaps in the brown on the bases, painted the rocks and dry brushed - now just need some flock. These are looking better now - the visual impact of a little detailing on the base is good.
Good one Fred
:-bd =D> :-bd
Like !! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Some matt varnish and flocking today, I think this lot are finished now.
Centaur Archers
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Flags, reload markers, gabions, and some Dwarves
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Also managed to get in an order to Leon as well - for lots of the new releases.
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
Very cool 8)
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Excellent, Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps. I'm pleased with the way these have come out, and the Centaurs have been pretty quick to paint up too.
Frostgrave
On Friday we played a 3 player Frostgrave game. It was only our second game but things seemed to flow pretty well, and much fun was had :)
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On overview of the wintery game board.
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My gang of dwarves making off with a pile of treasure, protected by the magic chain link fence ;)
Cool looking game, literally
Very nice indeed, Forbes !
Cheers - Phil
Frostgrave is proving fun. It's best not to take it too seriously as due to being heavily based on opposed d20 rolls you can get quite dramatic results.
But it does generally play well. And we are getting lots of old figures on the table. I've got some of the official figures but they are taking a lot of painting.
Quick bit of work on the spiders - going for the red knee design.
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Not totally sure...
Looking good! :)
Nice spiders!
:)
Quote from: fred. on 18 October 2015, 09:05:44 PM
Quick bit of work on the spiders - going for the red knee design.
Not totally sure...
An almost imperceptible drybrush of very dark brown over the black, Forbes ? :-\
Cheers - Phil
Might give that a try. Went with a dry brush of dark grey, which is probably imperceptible!
The black could do with toning down a touch I think.
Spiders
A few more shades added to these - a black wash on the legs, a dark brown dry brush all over, and a bit of scarlet on the knees to lift them back.
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An I suspect they look much like they did in the earlier photo :'(
Zweihanders
Added some blue and white to the first strip - I'd forgotten just how much detail there is on these figures - lots of stuff to paint, lots of decisions to make about what to paint what colour too.
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With a new photo technique of tilting the painting strip back at 45º to get some good light on the figures.
Excellent, Forbes ! :-bd
For me......The extra red on the knees, is 'lifting' the arachnids. Like those lots !
The Zweihanders look belting.
New photo technique works really well. (Though I've always thought your pictures were pretty spiffy, anyway.)
Cheers - Phil
All lovely Fred!
Zweihanders
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Faces and gloves done - which helps bring a bit more colour to the figures. Dark blue wash added to the first strip, and the start of the second strip.
What design and colour combo for the flag?
Blue and white that matches your uniform but a red double headed eagle/dragon?
Something like the blue checkered flag in this blog post?
http://toysoldiersanddiningroombattles.blogspot.be/2011/09/favorite-figures-some-more-warhammer.html
Excellent, Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: petercooman on 21 October 2015, 06:32:41 AM
Something like the blue checkered flag in this blog post?
http://toysoldiersanddiningroombattles.blogspot.be/2011/09/favorite-figures-some-more-warhammer.html
I did worry that some one would suggest checks.
I think I like the idea of the red eagle / dragon, I will see what decals I have, before attempting free hand.
Quote from: fred. on 21 October 2015, 06:41:06 AM
I did worry that some one would suggest checks.
I think I like the idea of the red eagle / dragon, I will see what decals I have, before attempting free hand.
Afraid of checks? :P
Yep, not keen on checks. But I do quite like cheques. And I don't think I've ever met a Czech...
Anyway.
Zweihanders
Final bits of tidying up on these chaps - (unless the photos show missed bits)
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Flag to finish off, obviously. Not sure if I want to give them a brown wash or not?
Id say no to the wash.
Just lovely
Take care
Andy
I'm with Will.
They're really 'punchy' just as they are.
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps. No wash it is then - keep them nice and bright.
Have to have a better rummage for the decals tonight as I couldn't find the heraldic ones last night, just lots of aircraft roundals.
Yeah, no wash - they look vibrant and punchy and nice as is!
Good job, on nice figures - I keep wanting to order some of them, but the price is a bit steep. *Really* tempted by the arquebusiers though. Can never have too many arquebusiers...
Quote from: fred. on 21 October 2015, 09:43:19 PM
Yep, not keen on checks. But I do quite like cheques. And I don't think I've ever met a Czech...
Some of the sexiest and most intelligent women in Europe.
I'm going to go with the opposite! Thin black wash (like Nuln Oil from GW), and then go over the colors with a highlight!
You are probably right Leon, but I'm kind of focusjng on producing units at the minute, rather than top quality.
edited to make sense :-[
Zweihanders
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Stuck the figures on bases, and a bit of work on the flag - couldn't find a dragon decal, but went with a wing
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
Cheers Andy.
Was there ever anything like that level of uniformity?
Quote from: FierceKitty on 23 October 2015, 12:07:33 AM
Was there ever anything like that level of uniformity?
Among Fantasy troops? If you want there to be, of course!
Great flag!
Stonking work, Forbes ! :-bd
They really look 'the biz'.
Cheers - Phil
Thanks chaps.
Regarding uniformity - as I says it's a Fantasty unit, rather than an historical one. And Fantasty armies do seem to end up much more uniform. Mine are pretty rag-tag when compared with others in my group. One of the guys has Orc, Rat and Chaos armies all of which show a degree of uniformity which would please a Guards Sergeant Major.
I tend to go for a degree of common colour within units, and commands. But still mix it up a bit. There is also a practical side, it's much easier to distinguish units on the table when the troops have consistent colours, and it's quicker to paint the unit with fewer colours.
In no way was I trying to dictate policy to you. Just took them for Landsknechts, and was puzzled by the limited palette.
That's ok, I hadn't thought you were. Yes for historicals I would have mixed it up far more, and would probably still be painting them!
Saga
Played a big game of Saga last night, 4 players a side, with each player having a 4pt warband, it was basically Vikings vs Anglo Danes
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Took a while to get started as it was a long time since any of us had played, but turned in a to a right old punch up. I have no idea what happened on the far flank. In the middle my two allies emerged pretty much unscathed holding the centre. With the two opposing warbands wiped out.
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On my flank I was down to my last man - while the battered but still fairly strong Jomsvikings held the farm. A lot of my fighting had been directed towards the middle viking force. Who are in the dead pile by the coffee cup!
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And following any good game, the first thing to do is look for reinforcements
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These are Gall Gaelhill - norse /gaelic mercenaries
Great looking game, that man ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Had a productive day - got 2 more painting sticks cleared (4 this week now).
Water Elementals
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These are the new re-sculpted ones - and they are very cool - the 'worm' like ones are very dynamic.
Pegasui
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Thanks, Forbes......Very pleased you like 'em. :)
I really like what you've done with those. 8)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 24 October 2015, 09:12:10 PM
Thanks, Forbes......Very pleased you like 'em. :)
I really like what you've done with those. 8)
Cheers - Phil
Glad you like them painted Phil, they were very easy to paint, I just picked out the sculpted detail.
Good to hear, Forbes ! ;)
Cheers - Phil.
(PS.....It's not my imagination, is it ?........You have changed your 'moniker' slightly, haven't you ?)
From the Bank of England website.
"Under the Currency & Banknotes Act 1928 it is illegal to deface our banknotes (by printing, writing or impressing upon them words, letters or figures, etc.), although the question of whether or not to prosecute in individual cases is up to the police and the courts."
Think this also applies to coins.
Quote from: Techno on 24 October 2015, 09:38:07 PM
(PS.....It's not my imagination, is it ?........You have changed your 'moniker' slightly, haven't you ?)
Yes.
Or it might be your imagination....
Quote from: fsn on 24 October 2015, 09:45:41 PM
From the Bank of England website.
"Under the Currency & Banknotes Act 1928 it is illegal to deface our banknotes (by printing, writing or impressing upon them words, letters or figures, etc.), although the question of whether or not to prosecute in individual cases is up to the police and the courts."
Think this also applies to coins.
I think the coin bit was repealed in the last few years. You will note though that all my figures are on the obverse of the coin, so they aren't defacing them, as the face is on the other side :P
Until its possible to buy large washers more cheaply than using coins, I'm sticking with coins.
THAT'S what the pegesi look like!
LEON! Can we have a photo for the site please?
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Both the game and the recent additions :)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 October 2015, 10:45:31 PM
THAT'S what the pegesi look like!
LEON! Can we have a photo for the site please?
I think the Pegasus and Unicorn share the same basic horse casting.
I also think these wings might be used in multiple codes - or I might be confusing myself with spares I have had in the past for kit bashing.
I'll have these based in the next few days, so will take a photo then, which I'm happy to go on the webstore.
Thanks Paul and Andy, it's good to be back posting updates.
Knights Panther
Really cracking on this weekend - unit of GW Knights Panther 90% finished
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these guys came together very quickly, rather to my surprise, as I had thought the blue too dark at first, but persevered and the highlight colours have lifted the unit.
Very nice!
Lovely stuff again, Forbes ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
More Zweihanders
Started on the second unit of blue zwiehanders, using dark prussian blue, golden yellow and white as the palette on these chaps. So far mainly just the basic colours blocked in, with a bit of detailing picked out on a few.
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Also fixed up a couple of stands of Birdmen, who had lost their wings!
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These are GW WM Empire figures, with the addition of Pendraken wings. Used a good blob of greenstuff to aid the join this time.
Looking good
Take care
Andy
Very nice
Like 'em ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Fred, those Zweihanders cool models! (Your painting is excellent also!) Do you know if the company only has three different types of models? That's all I could find on their website. Regardless, these models look like gold for building a post-GW empire army.
Also the Birdmen are brilliant, it makes me happy to see the Old World alive and well somewhere.
Quote from: Tiberius on 28 October 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Fred, those Zweihanders cool models! (Your painting is excellent also!)
Thank you - very kind. I'm finding my painting is helped massively by the sculpts these days.
Quote from: Tiberius on 28 October 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Do you know if the company only has three different types of models? That's all I could find on their website. Regardless, these models look like gold for building a post-GW empire army.
Yep, they only have a few unit types so far, they have just completed a Kickstarter to add Crossbowmen too. And they are steadily adding new figures, they've only been going about 18 months at most.
Quote from: Tiberius on 28 October 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Also the Birdmen are brilliant, it makes me happy to see the Old World alive and well somewhere.
They were a fun conversion a few years ago, but dead simple using the Pegasus wings from Pendraken.
Zweihanders
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More detailing - but seeing them blown up on the photo, shows there is a fair bit more to do still
Coming along nicely
Take care
Andy
Looking great!
How do those zweihanders rank up? It looks like most of them will be stabbing the guy in front of them. Also I love the colors. Are you doing are particular Empire province or just doing your own thing?
Those are some nice looking zweihanders. Did you highlight the blades, or do the edges just take thinner coats there?
Looks like Middenheim or Sweden Nordland to me.
They rank up fairly well, a couple of pages back there is a based up unit, s lot of the swords are at just enough of an angle that they fit together fairly well.
The blades on these ones have just had a dry brush of oily steel, I will give them a silver highlight, but that hasn't happened yet, I think it will just be the light picking out the edges at the minute.
As to colour schemes it's all made up. I've never really been in to the detail of the WHFB background, so I take the superficial bits I like and use historical stuff as well. My colours could be Swiss Cantons just as easily as Empire States. My troops are building in 4 main colour schemes, blue, red, or green, all with white and some light yellow. And black & yellow, the latter coming from the Holy Roman Empire colours. Most of the games we play need some method of identifying brigades of troops so having units in a few different colours helps. Also I found I got bored very quickly doing lots of units in the same colour.
There are a lot of photos of my Empire troops here http://www.kerynne.com/games/WMEmpire.html although these are a bit out of date and there is more stuff since then.
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 07:42:21 AM
Also I found I got bored very quickly doing lots of units in the same colour.
PAH !
How do you think
I feel making everything in
green. ;)
Cheers - Phil
You get silver as well.
And red..,
Lots of red....
IanS
Awwww.....Alright ! :P
(And light blue......And gray.....And a yukky olive brownish colour. )
But you lot have a lot more pretty colours to play with than I do. ;)
Cheers - Phil (Who hasn't leaked red stuff for ages.....Famous last words ! X_X)
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 07:42:21 AM
There are a lot of photos of my Empire troops here http://www.kerynne.com/games/WMEmpire.html although these are a bit out of date and there is more stuff since then.
Ha! That collection is yours? That's great, I actually found it awhile ago and have been enviously looking at it for inspiration for the past few months! It is massive and beautiful. I can only imagine how much that collection is worth now. Quite impressive.
Quote from: Techno on 29 October 2015, 12:32:14 PM
Cheers - Phil (Who hasn't leaked red stuff for ages.....Famous last words ! X_X)
Should we start a sweepstake?
Quote from: Tiberius on 29 October 2015, 04:29:49 PM
Ha! That collection is yours? That's great, I actually found it awhile ago and have been enviously looking at it for inspiration for the past few months! It is massive and beautiful. I can only imagine how much that collection is worth now. Quite impressive.
Thanks. Yep, all mine!! It's been put together over a good few years now, and pretty much all the GW WM stuff was bought on eBay, at well below the GW prices. Yes, I do dread to think what the current value would be. Even at £10 a unit and a bit more for the rares it's close to £500 in the main Empire photo, and there is a fair bit more since that photo. And a fair bit still in blisters. Then the elves, and Araby, and orcs.
But they are toys to be played with, and get a lot of table time, which is the key thing.
The anonymity of the Internet is funny, you having seen my figures, but having no way of connecting them with my posts hear, is one minor thing. But one of my regular gaming group, saw photos of my WM stuff on a post on another forum, and sent me an email hoping that he had found another WM player!! He was a bit disappointed to discover it was just me, under a different name!!
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 04:56:22 PM
Should we start a sweepstake?
No.....But the last time we had one, I lasted for ages before I did something silly.
Cheers - The Safety Officer. :P
Yeah. Seem to recall you scooped a packet on that one Techno?
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 05:00:48 PM
The anonymity of the Internet is funny, you having seen my figures, but having no way of connecting them with my posts hear, is one minor thing. But one of my regular gaming group, saw photos of my WM stuff on a post on another forum, and sent me an email hoping that he had found another WM player!! He was a bit disappointed to discover it was just me, under a different name!!
That's great! I guess you are an anonymous celebrity in the Warmaster world! Now if you could just get a sponsorship deal.
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 04:56:22 PM
Thanks. Yep, all mine!! It's been put together over a good few years now, and pretty much all the GW WM stuff was bought on eBay, at well below the GW prices. Yes, I do dread to think what the current value would be. Even at £10 a unit and a bit more for the rares it's close to £500 in the main Empire photo, and there is a fair bit more since that photo. And a fair bit still in blisters. Then the elves, and Araby, and orcs.
But they are toys to be played with, and get a lot of table time, which is the key thing.
Glad you are putting them to good use! I am quite sad I didn't get into Warmaster earlier, I scan eBay regularly now, but I promised myself I would never spend more than $10 a blister, and I still have yet to get a single pack. I do have about a 3,000 to 4,000 point Warhammer Empire army I slowly collected through eBay and such, but for the money I put into that I could probably have a pretty huge warmaster army. Sadly I just never knew anyone who played Warmaster, so I never even considered it until the Warhammer world was killed. Now I realize it was the game my group and I should have been playing the whole time! (And yes, I will try Warbands at some point, but I'm still excited about discovering Warmaster right now)
Also what is this sweepstakes business?
Quote from: fsn on 29 October 2015, 05:23:24 PM
Yeah. Seem to recall you scooped a packet on that one Techno?
:-$, Nobby.
Cheers - Phil
What country do you live in Tiberius?
Sweepstake is a gambling term, were everyone puts in a fixed amount of money, and selects a time / date an event will happen (or in a race randomly selects a horse to win).
As Techno (Phil) is well known for injuring himself, it seemed very likely that has he had mentioned that he had been injury free for some time, that it was likely that he would be injuring himself again soon.
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 08:13:57 PM
What country do you live in Tiberius?
The USA, Missouri is home for now. I assume many of you are British?
Quote from: fred. on 29 October 2015, 08:13:57 PM
Sweepstake is a gambling term, were everyone puts in a fixed amount of money, and selects a time / date an event will happen (or in a race randomly selects a horse to win).
As Techno (Phil) is well known for injuring himself, it seemed very likely that has he had mentioned that he had been injury free for some time, that it was likely that he would be injuring himself again soon.
Ahhh, it all makes sense now.
Some of us are Scottish :)
Quote from: Tiberius on 29 October 2015, 09:52:44 PM
I assume many of you are British?
Quite a lot, but a fair few from all around the world too.
Quote from: Tiberius on 29 October 2015, 09:52:44 PM
Ahhh, it all makes sense now.
That's not likely to last long round here ~X(
Back to some figures
ZweihandersGot the second blue unit based up - they probably need a bit of finishing off, but they are needed for a game tomorrow night too
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Hopefully I'll have a nice heavy Pendraken parcel soon, and have some nice shiny Pendraken goodies to paint (of course I have a few million figures stashed away that I could paint...)
That too, Paul! :)
South African, God help me.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 29 October 2015, 10:15:57 PM
Some of us are Scottish :)
Who can be blamed for the last election result. And the CORRECT term is ENGLISH......
IanS ;)
Quote from: ianrs54 on 30 October 2015, 07:37:38 AM
Who can be blamed for the last election result.
Blamed? We voted in the only serious opposition to the self-serving thugs voted in by the English. Saor Alba! :)
Stepping carefully back to gaming....
Played a game of our home brewed rules last night, using a scenario from MW, the sides were Demons vs Imperial
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My cannons, which due to needing to enter the table, ended up deploy far too far away to do much
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It was a good game, even if I lost fairly heavily.
Not totally sure if the scenario worked, basically the two forces are mis-aligned with their centres facing the opposition right flanks. This has the potential to be a turning battle, but kind of end up with two rather separate battles, and ultimately the bulk of the demons stuck on my right flank - in part due to their very slow movement
Nice pics though, Forbes ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Top tip. Before you spend 20 mins carefully measuring and cutting magnetic sheet in to 40mm squares. Make sure it is magnetic sheet not steel sheet! >:( >:(
At least I noticed before I stuck them all onto the bases of figures.
Then I had to spend another 20 mins cutting them to different sizes to finish off lining a storage box.
Now I can start again with the magnetic sheet.
actually managed to cut the right stuff up, and get it stuck on the bottom of lots of figures
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And then found most of my lizardmen needed magna-basing too - which was another sheet cut up and stuck on. But no photos as I had to sort out roast tea.
Good to see you've got your priorities sorted Forbes! ;) yum
Dungeon Saga
On a completely different tack, a very large box arrived yesterday lunchtime
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This was somewhat of a surprise, as I hadn't realised that all the Dungeon Saga stuff had reached Mantic, I was thinking I had a few more weeks to wait.
As can be seen its a very big box, that was mostly full of stuff. I went for the base game, and all 3 expansions.
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There are a load of figures, including the dragon, in coloured plastic, that is slightly bendy, and straightness in hot water. Loads of dungeon tiles in heavy duty card, filling most of the back left box. Loads of info cards, the top layer in the back left box. the back right box has furniture and more tiles in it.
Had time for a quick play through of the intro scenario with the kids yesterday afternoon - seems to play OK. There is a huge amount of stuff to assimilate though. The intro guide does a good job for the first couple of scenarios at introducing stuff 1 step at a time. But then for scenario 3 its plunge in at the deep end. We did find the different heroes play very differently the two warriors are very tough, and take down skeletons without too much effort, and suffer very few wounds. The caster and the elven shooter, need to keep their distance, if they let the enemy get close then they rapidly suffer wounds.
The bone pile mechanism for raising up undead works very well, making it hard for the players to deal with all the undead, as more keep arriving.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 November 2015, 06:52:52 PM
Good to see you've got your priorities sorted Forbes! ;) yum
It was a particularly good roast, even if I say so myself. :>
We do seem to be lacking the fat belly icon though...
=O :-bd
I got a big Mantic box just like that one too. My youngest daughter enjoyed playing the 1st sceario, it feels like a good quick moving game. Not sure when I will get round topainting all the minis.
Quote from: Bodvoc on 01 November 2015, 07:34:50 PM
Not sure when I will get round topainting all the minis.
Me too. I'm wondering if army painter dipping will work well on the different coloured plastics? I think I will paint the heroes first, as the dark blue makes them quite hard to tell apart.
More sticking on of magnetic bases this evening.
Finished off the lizardmen. And remember to take some snaps in their new double layered storage box - which is looking rather full already, and I have a fair few more still to paint...
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Also stuck magnetic sheet on a bunch of round based figures, which is much more fiddly.
Now need to buy more metal sheet, and magnetic sheet.
I was really tempted by the dungeon saga tuff, but decided not to get it in the end.
I have 5 dungeon crawlers lying around already, and just ordered the d&d lost mine of phandelver today, so have enough to keep me going!
Wottalottalovelyminis, Forbes.
Hmmmm.....I rather doubt a dip will work on plastic/polythene minis, without some sort of 'key'.......maybe a decent spray on matt varnish ?
(That's if I've understood what you're planning for some of them. :-\)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 02 November 2015, 06:06:54 AM
Wottalottalovelyminis, Forbes.
Hmmmm.....I rather doubt a dip will work on plastic/polythene minis, without some sort of 'key'.......maybe a decent spray on matt varnish ?
(That's if I've understood what you're planning for some of them. :-\)
Cheers - Phil
I have straigth up washed the bendy plastic of my castle ravenloft minis and they come out ok, just be sure to varnish them well, and don't rub them too much before the varnish stage!
Must admit, I'd have thought the 'polytheney' figures would have been too 'shiny', and any sort of wash would simply have slid off the model.
But that's good to know, Peter ! :)
Thanks - Phil
Phil - The figures are harder than the polythene style - they are pretty rigid - but do repose well in hot water. So I'm not sure what material they are.
Peter - I will give a wash / army painter thing a go - there is a lot of detail in the figures, and it would be good to be able to see it better, the monochrome and shininess of the figures makes it quite hard to see as is.
Its also good to know about the D&D games - if DS goes down well might look at some of those next year. But considering the amount of stuff in DS, it might take a long time to play through all the scenarios.
Look forward to seeing these, Forbes. :)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: fred. on 02 November 2015, 09:10:39 PM
Phil - The figures are harder than the polythene style - they are pretty rigid - but do repose well in hot water. So I'm not sure what material they are.
Peter - I will give a wash / army painter thing a go - there is a lot of detail in the figures, and it would be good to be able to see it better, the monochrome and shininess of the figures makes it quite hard to see as is.
Its also good to know about the D&D games - if DS goes down well might look at some of those next year. But considering the amount of stuff in DS, it might take a long time to play through all the scenarios.
What can i say, i'm pretty hooked on them. Between the 4 base games (all stand alone by the way), the 5 dungeon command sets (wich have cards in them to use the minis in the base games), and the fan made content over at BGG, you can keep going for a while, eiither solo or up to 5 players!
I just received my copy of the d&d 5th edition starterset today, going to look at 'melting' te rpg rules with the board games, to get even more out of them (more levelling and such)
But don't trust my opinion, i'm a fanboy :d
If you want to see how it goes, there's plenty of gameplay video's on the tube!
Pendraken Parcel, Pendraken Parcel!!
<:-P >:< :-bd
Received a little box from Pendraken today (I actually think it arrived yesterday, but only found it outside the backdoor this morning). Makes a nice change to get a box rather than the usual jiffy bag - I had to read the franking label to know it was from Pendraken.
Shiny
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And the reason for it being in a box
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The new Flodden men-at-arms
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these look really good - and I hope they will paint in nice and quickly with all that plate armour.
Sweeeeeeeeeet
I'm glad the 'hammer' came out of the mould as it did.
I thought that might cause a casting prob for Dave.
I enjoyed doing those 'knighty' type men-at-arms...They were fun !
Look forward to seeing them painted up, Forbes. :)
Cheers - Phil
Windmill looks ace!! :-bd
Quote from: jambo1 on 04 November 2015, 05:35:25 PM
Windmill looks ace!! :-bd
Second that!
Is that gandalf in the back? Seems to have changed his white gown...
That Landsknechty swordsman - and indeed the old one (LAN3), which is an excellent figure - would both lend themselves very well to an execution scene. Is there any sort of kneeling bareheaded figure in a shirt that could serve as the malefactor?
There is a bare headed medic in the WWI accessories range, who is in a kneeling pose, head slightly forward. Might work.
The LAN3 guy is kind of at the point of beheading. The above guy is kind of ready and waiting. Some of the command and squires figures would work for this diorama too.
Quote from: petercooman on 05 November 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Second that!
Is that gandalf in the back? Seems to have changed his white gown...
Yep, I needed a mounted wizard figure for my 28mm forces, and the Gandalf ones were cheap on eBay.
Hast an image, Fred?
Can't find one right now, as I need to go to work.
But I did use this figure on a painting comp entry, next to a medical M3 half track
This is the medic figure
(http://www.kerynne.com/games/images/PDComp/M3_Ambulance.jpg)
Might work as a beheading victim?
Hmmm. Must give this some thought.
If I can find another of the kneeling figure, tomorrow, I'll put him together with the knights.
Another option might be from Boer War / colonial gun crews, who are likely to be in shirt sleeves, but may well have head gear.
Probably bareheaded, don't you think? Certainly wouldn't want the headsman to botch the stroke. :o
Epic - Marines vs Tyranids
Played Epic on Friday night - a fun game.
These are a couple of snaps from mid-game. The Green Space Marines weren't doing too well. They are hemmed into their starting corner, and are about to be eaten, by my red 'nids.
Over on the far side the Red Space Marines are chasing after the purple 'nids which are busy running away from them, and trying to get in on beating up the Green SM.
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The game finished with the total destruction of the Green SM, the Red ones had barely been engaged by my ally.
Chomp!
Looks fun, though !
Cheers - Phil
It was much fun for me, but perhaps helped as I was shovelling enemy troops off, while making all my armour saves!
At one point the SM tanks put 8 hits on 3 of my large 'nids that count as tanks - the first 2 both made all 3 of their saves, the 3rd one failed. So 1 dead.
In a later combat, I close assaulted a mess of marines and transport, scored 8 hits, and I think only 1 of them made their save. Their return attacks were equally hopeless - all of these only needing 4+ on a d6.
(http://Basing)
Finished off the basing on these figures.
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Feel pleased with a good chunk of progress over the last few weeks.
Very nice! 8)
Ditto !
Job job, Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Nice work Fred, you and Mad lemmy are like painting machines, I can't keep up.
Thanks chaps.
I'm really enjoying painting 10mm again after messing around with 28mm over the summer. One of the reasons is the speed at which units can be created. I am also making an effort to finish stuff off rather than having lots of half projects.
Those water elementals look fantastic! Along with everything else. Those Knights Panther are also great looking. Too bad GW never really made Warhammer ones.
Thanks for sharing picks of your battles. Looks like you have a great gaming group. I know very little about epic but it looks like it lives up to its name!
Thanks Tiberius. The water elementals have come out nicely - the new sculpts are very nice, and look very good with simple painting techniques.
I only discovered Epic this year (about 15 years late, but oh well!) it does give good, big battles, that play pretty quickly. You have to kind of get your head into the technology / relative effectiveness of stuff - one of our group who is really into WWII finds Epic a bit odd, in that bugs can take on tanks, and win quite handily. The hardest thing with Epic is trying to work out which of the several versions it the one to go with. As the main people playing it have been playing it since day 1, I don't think they have really thought about making it accessible for new comers.
Shiny
Cleaned up a few of the new figures, mainly new Flodden foot men-at-arms. Hopefully get these sprayed soon, if it ever stops raining.
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Looking forward to seeing what you do with those, Forbes. :)
(Do I see a 'James' on horseback, there too ?)
Cheers - Phil
So the English won Flodden due to the Rhinos ??
IanS ;)
Quote from: ianrs54 on 11 November 2015, 07:09:07 AM
So the English won Flodden due to the Rhinos ??
It's not well known, but....
Quote from: Techno on 11 November 2015, 07:03:27 AM
(Do I see a 'James' on horseback, there too ?
I think it's just the similar posed guy from the English command pack. There is the Thomas Dacre figure with the mounted figures
Unicorns! Proper Scottish Unicorns! It's the deep fried haggis they live on, roaming the Highland Steppe, chasing the wee beastie across the glens.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 11 November 2015, 07:09:07 AM
So the English won Flodden due to the Rhinos ??
IanS ;)
Everybody should know the pulling power of the english rhinos enabled the English to hastily redeploy their 25 pdr batteries in the difficult ground.....
That's what you get with all the budget cuts on education, people don't know the basics anymore....
Are you a Tory education Minister, Peter?!
If not, would you like to be?!
;D ;D
Quote from: toxicpixie on 11 November 2015, 10:50:25 AM
Are you a Tory education Minister, Peter?!
If not, would you like to be?!
;D ;D
I'd have to move country, but i bet the paygrade would be bigger than my current job at the factory, so make me an offer :d
You get half the NHS on a knock price, the title deeds to a shedload of schools and massive back handers from the people you give the rest to. Sound good? Speak to that nice Mr Murdoch and he'll buy you a seat tomorrow!
Sounds to much work ;D
Are you SURE you're not an Oxbridge educated Bullingdon Club member?!
You would also have to be a complete git
Quote from: Fenton on 11 November 2015, 04:05:14 PM
You would also have to be a complete git
Maybe that does sound like me after all :-\
:D
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That doesn't work apparantely :-/
Second go.
Thanks for the helpful history lesson,
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I just wanted to check I got this right, before I started painting.
#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o
What are you doing, the infantry is not entrenched!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
All that is missing are the haggi!
Quote from: fred. on 11 November 2015, 07:33:59 PM
I just wanted to check I got this right, before I started painting.
Is one of the rhinos facing the wrong way ?
That's the only thing I can see that might not be correct.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: petercooman on 11 November 2015, 07:35:43 PM
What are you doing, the infantry is not entrenched!
Thanks Peter, its your great knowledge of this era, that will help this project be all it should be.
Quote from: fsn on 11 November 2015, 08:19:23 PM
All that is missing are the haggi!
Good point. Phil hasn't sculpted them yet.
Quote from: Techno on 11 November 2015, 08:49:17 PM
Is one of the rhinos facing the wrong way ?
That's the only thing I can see that might not be correct.
You try telling a Rhino to face the right way :o
I am disappointed that no-one has pointed out that these are 18pdrs, not 25pdrs. With this kind of
laisez faire attitude to historical accuracy what hope is there.
Quote from: fred. on 11 November 2015, 09:22:47 PM
Thanks Peter, its your great knowledge of this era, that will help this project be all it should be.
I do my best!
Quote from: fred. on 11 November 2015, 09:22:47 PM
I am disappointed that no-one has pointed out that these are 18pdrs, not 25pdrs. With this kind of laisez faire attitude to historical accuracy what hope is there.
Well, in those times the steel was much heavier, so what looks like an 18 pd shell, was actually a 25 pd shell. Something to do with all the lighter metals being used for the armour, as it was to hard to get out of the trench to countercharge when the armour was made of heavier metal.
I had thought that you knew this and had intentionally used the as-heavy-as-25-pdr -18pdrs, to be historically accurate. So you're telling me it was just sheer luck it turned out just about ok?
Good!
Now only thing left to add are the mercenary samurai with laser gatlings and you are good to go!!!
=P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~ =P~
Think it's time for some pills
Nobby will send you some. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Empire vs Undead
Played a big battle on Friday night - Empire vs Undead, 2 players a side, using our home brewed rules. We got about 2/3rd of the way through the game, and have left it set up for next week - but I have realised that I can't go out this Friday to play :'(
The undead hordes surge forward
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The Empire Artillery - ready to open fire
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The undead cavalry about to charge!
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My flank towards the end of the night. I have seen off 1 brigade of undead cavalry, but am facing rather a lot of undead infantry coming up.
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But the cavalry has made it round the rear - will it be able to cause enough carnage or not!
Nice game!!
Cor !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Very nice looking game sir!
Great looking game and a very nice windmill.
Thanks chaps. The human figures are mine, the undead mainly belong to one of the others in our group. And the table and terrain to a third (along with some of the undead). I think the windmill is the Forgeworld one, that goes for stupid money on eBay.
That board and the size of those armies are impressive! What were your home brewed rules based off of, if anything? Really awesome pictures, thanks for sharing!
Quote from: Tiberius on 17 November 2015, 09:42:08 PM
That board and the size of those armies are impressive!
Thanks - the table is 9'x6', and fills most of a double garage. Personally I find it a little too deep, perhaps because it is quite high (most of my gaming mates are tall!).
I think that the two of us who brought figures, could probably put the same again on the table. And two of the other players could probably have put similar amounts of Empire and Undead on the table too. We have insane amounts of WM stuff - mostly bought a while ago before prices went mad!
Quote from: Tiberius on 17 November 2015, 09:42:08 PM
What were your home brewed rules based off of, if anything? Really awesome pictures, thanks for sharing!
The rules are based of so many different things, that I'm not sure what I'd describe them as the child of. Warmaster and Kings of War are both in the lineage. But the game is d10 based, command is perhaps more like Epic. And there is even the odd bit we have come up with ourselves. We've been moving forward with it for a year or more, and we still keep changing quite significant parts.
Knights & Rhinos
Managed to get the new Flodden men at arms sprayed at the weekend (between rain) and have got some paint on them the last couple of days.
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Basically a dry brush of silver, with a weapon shafts in orange/brown and some green for livery.
In the distance are the 3 new Rhinos to go with the existing 3 - should give a bit of solidity to the Taurians.
Put some feathers on those boys and they would be great dismounted Reiksguard! Those models are looking quite awesome. Did you buy any chance also buy the Duke of Surrey or James IV in your Flodden collection?
Very nice Fred!
I've got the mounted King James - he is in the photo above leading the unicorns!
The pose is very similar to the knight above, with the sword raised, but his horse has less armour.
They're looking rather spiffy, Forbes ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Did those models seem a little extra small to you? I bought the Duke and James, and both seem to be just a bit smaller than everything else. I was hoping to use them as Heros, but I don't know if I can get past the size difference. Is this much variation normal with 10mm?
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If it's any help, Tiberius.
The 'Flodden' figures are basically 'historical' scale, rather than the 'fantasy size'.
The fantasy figures are a mm or two taller than the historical models.
Cheers - Phil
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Quote from: Tiberius on 18 November 2015, 03:50:21 PM
Did those models seem a little extra small to you? I bought the Duke and James, and both seem to be just a bit smaller than everything else. I was hoping to use them as Heros, but I don't know if I can get past the size difference. Is this much variation normal with 10mm?
Jimmy was only a wee fellow. The sculpting obviously reflects his real life lack of inches.
Dark Lord be praised! - FSN
Oops, a few weeks of missing posts (again...)
Not got that much painting done the last few weeks, been running around with the kids / busy with work / etc.
Did get a couple of games in, a good game of BKC set in France 1940, with a fictionalised French armoured attack, vs some German combined arms. It played out rather well in the end. The French stuttered forward, but got their heavy tanks into a good position - the German lighter armour swept forward, and was blown to bits. But then the German 88 ranged in from the far side of the table, picking off targets, and the Stukas finally found their range causing devastation. It kind of felt right overall, with the French winning the tactical battle, but loosing on the strategic side.
Also played Chain of Command the week before, in the same era - another French loss. It was a good game, but took a lot of time before we were comfortable with the rules - having not played for 18mts or so. There is a lot of detail to CoC, which takes quite a while to get the hang of again.
Space Marines
Distracted from 10mm by Epic again. Been shopping on eBay and got a bunch of yellow space marine infantry, and got a load of vehicles off a gaming mate, who still has the same again left as spares! Also bought a bunch of Squat infantry - now working out what vehicles to get for them.
Done a bit of tidying up of the infantry, and mainly been painting the armour.
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Why are all Yellow paints so rubbish >:(
Nice heap Fred!
Yay! Banana Marines! :)
I had a complete painted Imperial Fists chapter for Epic at one point, think I still have about half a chapter painted ... and 2, possibly 3, unpainted chapters. Plus the Eldar, Squats, Imperial Guards and Chaos stuff also unpainted. A plastic mountain to match the lead one :)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 09 December 2015, 11:11:30 PM
heap
Heap! Outrageous, it's carefully arranged. Well perhaps heap is the correct term.
Yep bannana marines.
I'm liking the plastic vehicles more than the old metals.
It seems everyone who played Epic back in the day had several armies stashed away.
Salamanders goes bananas ?
YES! Join the cult of yellow marines!!!
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They look good Peter. Though they may be verging on desert yellow rather than banana.
You don't really want me to bring out my Dark Angels now, do you...? :D
Cheers,
Rob
Quote from: petercooman on 10 December 2015, 02:56:30 PM
YES! Join the cult of yellow marines!!!
Um ... they sound a bit cowardly?
Quote from: Ace of Spades on 10 December 2015, 09:52:47 PM
You don't really want me to bring out my Dark Angels now, do you...? :D
Is that a euphemism? :-\
Quote from: fred. on 10 December 2015, 08:54:58 PM
They look good Peter. Though they may be verging on desert yellow rather than banana.
They are more 'banana on the edge of going brown' type yellow
Nice Mr Leon sent me lots of circular bases, so I have been sticking various small tanks on them.
And even got a bit of grey paint on some more Rhinos, these ones for the Squats.
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Its a shame in game terms the Rhino is a bit of a liability, as I do quite like the little plastic models.
Squats!
My word!
Thought the Evil Empire had banned them in the late 80s!
Got any photos?
Wich army do those rhinos at the back belong to?
(sorry, somebody had to ask ;D)
Those Rhinos look great! Someday I will get into Epic, but probably not anytime too soon.
Quote from: petercooman on 13 December 2015, 11:46:14 PM
Wich army do those rhinos at the back belong to?
(sorry, somebody had to ask ;D)
And yes, I was thinking it too.
Looking good, Forbes ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Squats seem to still exist in the Epic world. I don't have any infantry painted up yet.
The Rhinos at the back are either for Warband Taurians or KoW Herd
If you wait too long to get into Epic you'll be paying a fortune on ebay for rare antiques.
It seems I have rather more painted "banana marines" than I remembered.
Dug them out of various boxes and plan to amalgamate them into one steel box along with the "Sons of Thunder" Titan Legion shown here and the Imperial Guard armour and artillery units I have.
Still haven't unearthed the painted Eldar I know I have somewhere. #firstworldproblems :)
Sweet
Quote from: Ithoriel on 14 December 2015, 05:25:25 PM
It seems I have rather more painted "banana marines" than I remembered.
That's a lot of marines!!
Quote from: Leman on 14 December 2015, 03:43:50 PM
If you wait too long to get into Epic you'll be paying a fortune on ebay for rare antiques.
Yep, this can be a problem. But there are also some bargains around. I picked up plenty of squat infantry and guns for £6. But the war engines are much more expensive. There are a few third party suppliers around, but 6mm Sci Fi can be quite expensive compared to 10mm historicals.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 14 December 2015, 05:25:25 PM
It seems I have rather more painted "banana marines" than I remembered.
Not a bad bunch, I'm sure they can approach in formation, then peel off to the flanks.
X_X
(You OIK !)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: fred. on 14 December 2015, 08:44:16 PM
Yep, this can be a problem. But there are also some bargains around. I picked up plenty of squat infantry and guns for £6. But the war engines are much more expensive. There are a few third party suppliers around, but 6mm Sci Fi can be quite expensive compared to 10mm historicals.
I got a lot of my stuff second hand from the tactical command forum, they have a nice marketplace!
http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewforum.php?f=58&sid=81afcefb674a8187359a2f472dfaa219
I also bought a massive ork army of ebay, if you see what the stuff goes for per piece, it's often better to buy big lots. The price seems excessive, but if you start counting you'll pay way more when you hunt them down separately! (and you only have to pay shipping once)
This is my ork army in it's half painted glory:
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And the yellow marines and their unpainted brothers:
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After a bit more of a gap - in which a bit of painting of Space Marines has been done, and more buying of Epic Squats has occurred. I have got back to some 10mm stuff.
I received the Irregular Wars - Wargaming at the World's End rules for Christmas - and they have inspired me to put together some armies for this - at least initially using existing stuff. The game covers the 16th to mid 17th centuries - and is particularly focused on small to medium sized actions, especially around the areas the Europeans were expanding into. There are nearly 50 army lists with the rules, covering pretty much all continents.
I have cleaned up a few more Mongols to allow me to round out a Steppe Khanate force - and will hopefully get them sprayed tomorrow.
I am also putting together some figures for an early Imperialist force (aka Holy Roman Empire) - using my existing WM Empire figures - and this handily means that the Warmonger Arquebusiers I sprayed a few weeks ago, will do very nicely for the shot armed troops.
I am going for a more historical mix of colours, rather than the uniform style I have used on the fantasy units.
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I can't decide about basing for these figures, Irregular Wars uses 40mm square bases. But I feel that if I base that way, then I will loose some of the multi-rule use by going with 40x20mm bases. The advantage of 40mm squares is that there is more room to make a bit of a diorama, and the figures don't look quite so cramped.
Those are going to look particularly colourful, Forbes ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Thanks, Phil. I'm hoping that they will tone down a bit with a wash, trying to balance colours bright enough to stand out vs garish.
Some more work on these chaps this afternoon. Most of the base colours added now, along with some detailing.
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Flesh, beards and guns are the main areas that still need doing. Also a fair few hats and feathers to be painted. Then to see if more detailing needs adding.
Good work Forbes! :)
Like those ! :)
Cheers - Phil
Bit more done - not too many gaps now. Mainly beards, and musket stocks
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Cool
Definitely ! 8)
Cheers - Phil
I like 'em, wild bunch!
Cheers,
Rob
Got the last details painted, gave them a wash of Army Painter Soft Tone ink, highlighted a few bits of white again. And stuck them on bases
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A bit more basing to do to finish them off, but that's another 6 stands done!
Lots of progress today.
Started work on some more Mongols. Got the horses, armour and weapons done for this 20 or so, which should give me 2 bases of archers and 2 of lancers.
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Nice, again, Forbes ! :)
Looking forward to the finished 'article'.
Cheers - Phil
Very nice Fred! :)
Very good and rapid progress =D> =D>
Thanks chaps. I'm taking full advantage of having a few days off, to crack on with some painting.
Also having got a new set of rules (Irregular Wars) for Christmas, it has triggered various army building thoughts, which has led me to spot a few places where I can easily add a few stands of troops to current armies, to make forces for Irregular Wars.
Last bits done on the Mongol cavalry. 2 stands of light cavalry (aka horse archers) and 2 stands of medium cavalry (aka lancers) - the later may be a bit of an odd distinction, but the Irregular Wars army lists splits between the more skirmishy horse archers, and others who were more melee orientated.
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Photo is a bit dark, but you get the idea I'm sure. Still need to finish off the bases - probably do that tomorrow as I now have a bunch of stands to get sanded.
Those look brilliant
I like them especially the Mongols.
Thanks chaps
Quote from: Subedai on 30 December 2015, 08:57:40 PM
I like them especially the Mongols.
That's not too surprising ;)
Congratulation Fred, for another marvellous Painting diary nicely done. Very fun to read.
Thanks for sharing, looking forward to see 2016 great great diary,
cheers
Thanks Jorge.
I've flicked back through the posts myself in the last couple of days - its quite interesting to see when I actually started working on some projects, and how long some stall for, then get another burst of activity.
But I'm not quite done for this year yet!!
Mongol Foot Archers
These chaps have been super fast to paint up - probably the lack of horses ;)
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I also found the Flodden Foot Men at Arms in a drawer - so have got a few more colours on them, which suddenly makes them look a lot more complete. So should get them stuck on bases shortly.
:-bd =D> :-bd
What Paul, said !
Cheers - Phil
Nice one
Thanks chaps.
And Paul, it must be 2016 for you already, so Happy New Year!
Flodden Men at Arms
So a change from light stuff, to some proper heavy metal.
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These chaps managed to get stalled for a good few weeks - but when doing the Mongol foot, I have managed to get the last bits of these chaps done. Not really sure why I have only done 3 bases worth of troops. But its a start.
Heavy metal man! Awesome! :)
All very nice and this has been a great read over the year.
Time to wrap this thread up.
Looking back at my aims / intentions for the year, they were largely ignored :o
The only one I really made any progress on was with my Lizardmen army - which is largely complete, I have a few more infantry to do, and a bit of jungleification of bases but they are certainly playable - now to just get them on the table!
Gaming wise last year was a bunch of un-expected twists. Perhaps the biggest (or should that be smallest) was Epic Armageddon. Which my group decided to resurrect, I had missed EA the first time round, so was starting from scratch. I built a Tyranid army - largely from 3rd party models. It was good fun collecting and painting this army - it also had quite a steep learning curve on the table. But we did learn how to win - and by the middle of the year were winning a lot of games. I have recently added a Space Marine army, which is nearly complete, and have started collecting Squat forces - which are really just at the purchasing stage.
The next was Warband - which I grew to like, after not having taken to a preview copy the year before. I assembled a large number of sabot bases to allow use of my existing fantasy figures, and added some key units to my existing armies to give them more Warband options - I was even able to field a Dwarven army with a few tactical purchases.
28mm ended up taking a big chunk of the middle of the year, Perry WotR, Frostgrave, Saga Crusades and DAK for CoC - ultimately while I really like building the plastic figures, I find painting them hard work - and a lot of these figures have not progressed much past the base coat.
Through the year we have been working on our home-brewed fantasy mass battle rules - we seem to have the command and combat mechanisms fairly solid now. But are still trying to sort out the magic - and the balance of different armies. This has been a very long process - and has been quite a slog at times.
The year ended with a burst of 10mm activity with a bunch of different units painted - which was good - it reminded me what I like about painting, after the slog of 28s.
Quick, lock the thread, it's 2016! ;)