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Title: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 06 July 2014, 06:12:42 PM
First in a self-motivational series documenting my ECW army build.  Irregular and potentially uninteresting to all perhaps, but a reason for me to Get it Done!!!

Part 1: glue men to coffee stirrers.  I undercoat black, by hand.  On Mondays.  Watch this space for the next exciting instalment.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 06 July 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Oh, Plastic.....
You've given away the plot of the next episode ! ;)

Look forward to seeing them progress.  :)
Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Steve J on 06 July 2014, 07:28:26 PM
Good luck and looking forward to seeing progress on this. I've tried something similar on the motivation front, but frankly it has failed miserably for me :'(.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 06 July 2014, 08:31:32 PM
Update: to avoid the aforementioned spoilers, I've just under coated them.  Black.  With a brush.  No need for pictures.  Next episode - The Forest of Death.  Or brown.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 July 2014, 01:00:10 AM
May I ask why you undercoat by hand? I'd have thought life was too short not to use aerosols.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 07:30:30 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 July 2014, 01:00:10 AM
May I ask why you undercoat by hand? I'd have thought life was too short not to use aerosols.

I never feel like I'm entirely in control with spray paint.  The paint's either too warm, or too cold, or it's too windy, or it's raining, or it's dark ( don't have a garage, so have to spray paint outside).  With a big brush and watered-down black paint, it takes me seven seconds to undercoat a figure.  That, and I find it to be rather zen.  My job is quite random, and I never know what I'll be doing day-to-day, so it's nice to sit down to a repetitive task in the evening sometimes.

I am thinking of having 'Life is too short not to use aerosols' put on a t-shirt though!
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 July 2014, 08:03:34 AM
I wish I felt entirely in control when I use a brush!
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 08:17:03 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 July 2014, 08:03:34 AM
I wish I felt entirely in control when I use a brush!

I've had some unpleasantness when using spray paint - I think I'm just a bit clumsy when it comes to machinery!  I always seem to miss bits as well.  A friend of mine undercoats with white spraypaint and can't understand my methods at all. 
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 07 July 2014, 08:56:15 AM
Sorry, but neither of you are in control, I AM.

used to use an airbrush to undercoat, found it didn't give the needed coverage.


IanS
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Leman on 07 July 2014, 10:34:42 AM
Never been able to get full coverage with a can - armpits and crotch often a problem (if someone doesn't run with that then the forum has been hijacked by Martians)
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 July 2014, 10:58:16 AM
Sitting duck.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Subedai on 07 July 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 07 July 2014, 10:34:42 AM
Never been able to get full coverage with a can - armpits and crotch often a problem (if someone doesn't run with that then the forum has been hijacked by Martians)

I haven't used spray undercoat for donkeys; had the same problem but both tablets and changing to a brush method of application sorted it out.

Plus spray undercoat for 10mm, just as fast with a brush so whats the point?.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Subedai on 07 July 2014, 03:20:36 PM
Back on topic.

I'd like to think the suspense of finally seeing something painted is going to be worth the wait.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 07 July 2014, 03:19:03 PM
I haven't used spray undercoat for donkeys

No donkeys in my ECW army, so we're okay.  Ahem.  Sorry.
I'll try to get some work done on these when I get in from work.  Should have pictures up laters.
No, I definitely don't spend my time at work reading the Pendraken forum...
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 03:42:46 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 07 July 2014, 03:20:36 PM
Back on topic.

I'd like to think the suspense of finally seeing something painted is going to be worth the wait.

I fear it won't be.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 July 2014, 03:45:21 PM
I suppose that Scottish lancers were mounted on donkeys or equivalent nags?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 July 2014, 08:56:44 PM
They're mounted on haggises and so can only charge on mountainside and in the correct direction, on account of the legs.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 09:02:48 PM
Anyway...
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 09:32:23 PM
Tomorrow's instalment: Newcastle's Whitecoats get, er, white coats.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Subedai on 07 July 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 09:32:23 PM
Tomorrow's instalment: Newcastle's Whitecoats get, er, white coats.

Shall we hold the Front page?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Orcs on 07 July 2014, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 07 July 2014, 08:56:15 AM
Sorry, but neither of you are in control, I AM.

IanS

I think that is just an ugly rumour!  ;D
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 07 July 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Shall we hold the Front page?

I wouldn't.  I'm quite happy with how these are progressing though.  I'm trying something new: a heavy drybrush with raw sienna darkened with some black as a shade layer I hope will tie everything together.  The skin tone works pretty well over it.  These figures are a joy to paint.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 08 July 2014, 06:50:51 AM
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 07 July 2014, 10:47:25 PM
The skin tone works pretty well over it.

Certainly does, Plastic ! Progressing very nicely.  :)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 July 2014, 07:08:31 AM
Another supporter of the "faces and hands first" approach. Good show.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 08 July 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 July 2014, 07:08:31 AM
Another supporter of the "faces and hands first" approach. Good show.

Yeah, I paint from the inside out. 
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Subedai on 08 July 2014, 08:39:27 AM
I'm the opposite, Splodge the big colours on first then tidy up as you go along with the little colours. Flesh -if it's just hands and face are normally painted just before end.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 08 July 2014, 09:07:41 AM
Quote from: Subedai on 08 July 2014, 08:39:27 AM
I'm the opposite, Splodge the big colours on first then tidy up as you go along with the little colours. Flesh -if it's just hands and face are normally painted just before end.

I love the different methods we all use to achieve the same ends.  Would you mind posting an example?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 July 2014, 09:50:24 AM
This would be a good subject for another poll. Anyone out there with more cyber-mojo than I'll ever have?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 08 July 2014, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 July 2014, 09:50:24 AM
This would be a good subject for another poll. Anyone out there with more cyber-mojo than I'll ever have?
A challenge, eh?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 July 2014, 11:37:34 AM
Hardly! My kitten has more computer sense than I.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 09 July 2014, 05:57:09 PM
Not a particularly thrilling instalment; just the base coat of the erm, coats.  Still, onwards and sideways.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 09 July 2014, 06:31:20 PM
Good stuff, Plastic.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Subedai on 09 July 2014, 06:40:20 PM
Getting there, admittedly one pic at a time, but getting there. The excitement is like the Sahara...it's intense (geddit??)

Bdmtsch!
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Steve J on 09 July 2014, 06:55:01 PM
It's progress none-the-less, so not to be sniffed at.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 09 July 2014, 06:59:40 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 09 July 2014, 06:40:20 PM
The excitement is like the Sahara...it's intense (geddit??)

Bdmtsch!

Oh dear. 
Got a nice chunk of time tomorrow night so inroads shall be made.  Have to reiterate though, these little figures are the bee's knees.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 July 2014, 12:06:29 AM
And the cat's meow?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: mollinary on 13 July 2014, 06:07:06 PM
And the Dog's ?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 July 2014, 07:53:51 PM
The Dogs? Excellent restaurant :-)

http://www.thedogsonline.co.uk/
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Hertsblue on 14 July 2014, 08:43:32 AM
How did that small dog produce all that?  :D
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 17 July 2014, 10:13:07 PM
Here's a nice fuzzy, dark photograph.  Actually the blurred image makes the figures look much better than they really are.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 18 July 2014, 07:34:20 AM
They look pretty damn good. (Says he, with his nose pressed up against the screen !)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 18 July 2014, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: Techno on 18 July 2014, 07:34:20 AM
They look pretty damn good. (Says he, with his nose pressed up against the screen !)
Cheers - Phil

Thanks.  I'm really taking my time with these.  I tried to vary the colour of trousers, hats, etc, 'cos most of the coats will all be a variation of off-white.  There's something perverse about painting that much detail onto something so tiny that really appeals.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: mollinary on 18 July 2014, 11:16:51 AM
I am sure they are brilliant, but they just look to me like men seen on a dark night from about a hundred yards away!   :-\ :-\

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 18 July 2014, 11:44:30 AM
This might be marginally better
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Sandinista on 18 July 2014, 01:10:47 PM
Try resting them on a sheet of white paper to photo
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 18 July 2014, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: Sandinista on 18 July 2014, 01:10:47 PM
Try resting them on a sheet of white paper to photo

Will do when I get home from work.  I photographed them late last night and was getting too much glare against a white background under the electric lights.  I'll take a picture while the sun's still up.   
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: fred. on 18 July 2014, 04:25:24 PM
A white background can be very hard to photograph against - the camera will see all the white and cut down the exposure time, leaving the figures as dark blobs.

Try going with a medium coloured background - a green cutting mat works pretty well.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Steve J on 18 July 2014, 06:08:07 PM
They look good in the second photo but it's hard to tell :(. Look forward to some 'better' pics soon, fingers crossed. But then I'm no David Bailey so can't criticise others attempts :-[.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 18 July 2014, 09:43:22 PM
Fingers crossed
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 18 July 2014, 09:44:50 PM
Basically, I'm using a telephone to do all this (I don't have a computer at home)
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 July 2014, 09:53:14 PM
Much better - can see them! I tend to use the phone and it's not great...
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 20 July 2014, 07:29:11 AM
Definitely clearer !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Hertsblue on 20 July 2014, 12:36:36 PM
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 18 July 2014, 09:44:50 PM
Basically, I'm using a telephone to do all this

Do you use a camera to call your friends?  :D
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 20 July 2014, 05:47:26 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 20 July 2014, 12:36:36 PM
Do you use a camera to call your friends?  :D

Friends?  I play with toy soldiers.  And spend summer Sunday afternoons indoors painting 1 cm high figures.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 20 July 2014, 07:01:28 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Hertsblue on 21 July 2014, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: Plasticoutsider on 20 July 2014, 05:47:26 PM
Friends?  I play with toy soldiers.  And spend summer Sunday afternoons indoors painting 1 cm high figures.

Yes, my relations often remark on my "prison pallor".
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 24 December 2014, 05:17:16 PM
So, 5 months after exposing the inside of my head, I felt like my concentration levels might extend to some musketeers from Denzil Holles' regiment at Edgehill.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 24 December 2014, 06:24:08 PM
Looking good, that man!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 December 2014, 08:25:14 PM
Welcome back.
Nice work.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Subedai on 27 December 2014, 09:25:03 PM
That's a good start. Just the other 10 infantry regiments and 'x' amount of cavalry and aunty hilary and you can call it a day.  :)
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 30 December 2014, 08:34:19 PM
Right.  Three down: William Constable's, The Lord General's, and Denzil Holles'.  My eyes!  They see nothing!
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 30 December 2014, 09:02:32 PM
Any chance of a little closer, Plastic ?
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 December 2014, 09:05:21 PM
Very nice chap
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 30 December 2014, 09:44:13 PM
Any better?
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 30 December 2014, 09:52:24 PM
Sorry, by the time I've reduced the file size to one that works, the figures look like something from crimestoppers!
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Techno on 31 December 2014, 07:42:15 AM
Those look fine, Plastic....Thanks.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: Plasticoutsider on 31 December 2014, 03:37:21 PM
Thanks so much for the feedback.  Today's task is another blue regiment (probably Lord Saye and Sele's), followed closely by Essex.  I seem to have built up momentum - rare for me; I shall exploit it while it lasts.
Title: Re: 1642
Post by: paulr on 31 December 2014, 06:17:16 PM
keep up the good work ;)