Barkerese

[Hertsblue]

Why? It was something any educated 8 year old could read 

Finding one would be more of a problem.

[DanJ]

After that one - OUT OUT OUT.....

I used to get into trouble at school for writing whole paragraphs as single sentences, I never understood the issue but have come to realise of the years how dificult it is to read.

I now spend a large part of my time helping people write business cases for IT projects and that has made me evaluate what constitutes well written prose.

[FierceKitty]

It works well enough in Latin.

[Hertsblue]

Ever read Dickens? Some of his sentences are monumental.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Ever read Dickens? Some of his sentences are monumental.

Monumentally boring, its not even relevant social comment for the era.

IanS

[FierceKitty]

Monumentally boring, its not even relevant social comment for the era.

IanS

Thank God. Social commentary makes really dull literature.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Dickens IS REALLY REALLY DULL LITERATURE.

Anyone disagreeing will be shot. 

[Leman]

Except the quote from Oliver Twist, "Do not say you have seen me Dick." That got a laugh in school.

[Ithoriel]

Pass me a blindfold - I don't think Dickens' novels are boring.

[Last Hussar]

You don't deserve a blindfold.

[Steve J]

Having read Little Dorrit for A levels, I can confirm that this book is hard work and not fun to read. The tele versions are much more digestable IMHO.

[FierceKitty]

He might have written better had he written less; he's got his weaknesses, as who has not, and if I were a woman I'd certainly want to explain a few things to him over the head with a half-brick in a sock, but at his best he's dazzling. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to shoot at me, since I'm confident he'll shoot his own nose off trying to hit me.

[Steeleye]

The only thing more boring than Dickens is the Brontes.

Just what were the exam boards thinking, were they trying to put people off reading books for life?

I had to read 'Wuthering Heights' for my GCE 'O' level English Literature exam...all I can say is thank god for Asimov and Heinlein!

[Hertsblue]

I read most of his books in my twenties and enjoyed them. Considering he was writing "part works" he kept it together brilliantly. And no, I didn't know him personally...

[Leman]

I notice, with utter incredulity, Govey's latest plan to put kids off reading with a diet of Bronte, Dickens, Hardy, Shakespeare et al. Is this all part of a cunning plan by the Tories to actually increase the number of illiterate people in this country so that there will be fewer who have the wherewithall to challenge them for power? 

[Hussargeneral]

Funny you should say that, I was thinking the same thing.  Dumb them down and they won't question too much.
In Zambia, several years ago, the ruling party decided on the symbols to be used for each party in the elections, strangely enough in parts of the country they were represented by a Lion or an Elephant on the ballot paper while the opposition were a Chameleon ( a very bad sign to rural Africans) or Baboon.
In South Africa a party called the Soccer party got 5% of the total votes cast in the Eastern Cape (and due to Proportional representation a couple of seats) because their symbol was a football! They had no policies or ideas, just wanted the fat cheque for winning a seat.
Democracy at its best 

[Hertsblue]

Funny you should say that, I was thinking the same thing.  Dumb them down and they won't question too much.

Dickens, Shakespeare et al is dumbing down?  I don't think so.

[Leman]

No it isn't if you have had a relatively privileged upbringing with parents who understand how to support and nurture a child's education. If, like me , you were lucky enough to get into a grammar school, and the complete works of Shakespeare was on the family bookshelf, then A Midsummer Night's Dream, Macbeth (quite keen on Scottish independence) and Twelfth Night were quite good fun. I then went on to teach in comprehensive schools where the majority of pupils did not enjoy the background advantages that I had. It was the likes of Kes and The Lord of the Flies that got these children interested in reading. Dickens came alive thanks to the likes of Alec Guinness on film, but reading it left them cold. I have great faith in English teachers who will find ways of gripping the children with literature despite Gove's best (worst?) efforts.

[Hussargeneral]

I notice, with utter incredulity, Govey's latest plan to put kids off reading with a diet of Bronte, Dickens, Hardy, Shakespeare et al. Is this all part of a cunning plan by the Tories to actually increase the number of illiterate people in this country so that there will be fewer who have the wherewithall to challenge them for power? 

Hertsblue it was in response to the above.
One mans classic etc etc.

[FierceKitty]

Funny you should say that, I was thinking the same thing.  Dumb them down and they won't question too much.
In Zambia, several years ago, the ruling party decided on the symbols to be used for each party in the elections, strangely enough in parts of the country they were represented by a Lion or an Elephant on the ballot paper while the opposition were a Chameleon ( a very bad sign to rural Africans) or Baboon.
In South Africa a party called the Soccer party got 5% of the total votes cast in the Eastern Cape (and due to Proportional representation a couple of seats) because their symbol was a football! They had no policies or ideas, just wanted the fat cheque for winning a seat.
Democracy at its best 

Remember la Cicciolina in Italian politics? I'd have cast my vote for her myself.