GW at it again (again!)

[i_am_win]

Me and my son play older editions of both WFB, and 40k, but we never buy directly from GW, its always by trading and buying 2nd hand or such like. That way we don't get all the faff of the "keeping up with the jones-syndrome, which is  their hook, and this way we aint putting money into GWs pockets (since they have already been paid for and flogged on dirt cheap  )

Also in the age of the web, we can get access to much better proxy figures from other manufacturers, and get a better bargain too.

Even so my kids want to go to their store (which is where they'll get reeled in) I've banned them to be honest. Hopefully I've learned them enough about other wargaming and miniatures options out there, to make more informed judgements about flushing their spends on finecrap and overpriced modelling materials in favour of getting a lot more from the hobby.

I think as a parent, the strategy of GW now is it lures kids in, and to feed their fix for new stuff they know parents are going to end up paying out for.
My son likes playing WFB, but is just as happy playing even historical games as well, so at least he knows that lots of other stuff is available outside of that.

[Leon]

I can understand GW protecting their logo's and trademarks, that bit's fine.  But to try and stop a third party website from showing pictures of models which they have painted themselves is ridiculous.  How is that any different from someone with a blog building the latest batch of 'Space Marines (TM)' and posting a review with some pics?  Or simply showing off their models, which they've spent money and time assembling.  I can't see how any court in the world would uphold something like that. 

They might as well put a poster in every GW shop saying 'Spend your money, buy our stuff, but show it off online, and you'll be hearing from our lawyers.'

[sixsideddice]

I have fought GW twice in the past... and won.

Their bullying tactics crumble when stood up against, because (despite their team of amazingly competent lawyers) a lot of the time they hope (and succeed) their scare tactics will make them get their own way. They back down when they aren`t sure they can win; and to be honest, its not worth it to them to pursue the small fry. But I reiterate, most people crumble when presented with a legal document and comply to their wishes.

... this I will NEVER do, as I never step outside the law against them.

Yes, I am disgusted by GW, sorry.


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[Fenton]

I can understand GW protecting their logo's and trademarks, that bit's fine.  But to try and stop a third party website from showing pictures of models which they have painted themselves is ridiculous.  How is that any different from someone with a blog building the latest batch of 'Space Marines (TM)' and posting a review with some pics?  Or simply showing off their models, which they've spent money and time assembling.  I can't see how any court in the world would uphold something like that. 

They might as well put a poster in every GW shop saying 'Spend your money, buy our stuff, but show it off online, and you'll be hearing from our lawyers.'

I think it is only because they did it before the models were actually officially released

[sebigboss79]

But how can you expect in the age of the internet to keep back information?

GW will not be able to surpress what is in development. They can only shorten the notification to (currently) about a month.

And there is my problem with it. I DO spend my budget on minis (if I have one) but if they do not tell me when my army gets a new release (a one year overview would be enough for most people)
then I will spend my money where my business is valued. Contrary to GWs belief there is competition for my money and, sorry, they fail. Now the fanboys will argue my money is not important to them but more and more people think the same.

Is it also not important when a whole club declares the local GW pushers as persona non grata? I know a few places where local gamers told GW to shove it. Preferably sideways. I know of annually more than 30K in wargaming budgets being allocated to other companies..... put it ona  global scale and my "15 % price rise =/= 1 % rise in turnover" starts to make sense.

[i_am_win]

You know, all this method of distancing themselves from everything else wargames related is probably just so that the GW fanboys don't accidentally get to see other firms stuff!

I expect they'd rather control every aspect of the whole "hobby" experience by putting blinkers on them as much as possible.

Myself, I don't give a flying crap about anything they make or bring out these days, but it does pee me off when I regularly hear about GW throwing their weight around, they just make me want to rant on like a militant anti-GW-ite (or whatever) and makes me hate what they are a little more each time.

For a gaming company, GW are really bad killjoys!

[sixsideddice]

sooooo,

I wonder who's brave enough now to tell anyone here they`ve just gone and bought a brand new GW army for their games  

hehe


okay, that was low of me   

[Ithoriel]

I've just bought a new GW army ....

Well new to me ...

From EBay ....

For considerably less than GW wanted for it new ....

Before they canned the range ...

And system .....

I like my new Warmaster Undead though :-)

[sixsideddice]

*points at Ithoriel in horror... teeth pulled back in sheer revulsion and terror at the beast before him*

Actually, I have a ton of WG stuff... mostly from the late 80`s and early 90`s. And I bought Battle Of Five Armies, Space Hulk and several bits and bobs for Warmaster (which I never play)  I`d even buy their Purity Seal, except they refuse to ship to Ireland.


Brave man Ithoriel      



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[fred.]

I've just bought a new GW army ....

Well new to me ...

From EBay ....

For considerably less than GW wanted for it new ....

Before they canned the range ...

And system .....

I like my new Warmaster Undead though :-)

Me too, except it was empire and probably at half the price for vaguely equivalent  models from Pendraken , which is probaly a quarter of the GW  price, if you could still buy the stuff from them

[WeeWars]

Aaaargh! They're killing children!

[Ithoriel]

Giant body, tiny head. It's ... Thrud the Barbarian!!

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

It could get em closed down - se**al offences against minors.

IanS

[get2grips]

Giant body, tiny head. It's ... Thrud the Barbarian!!

[Danyo]

Never read through the whole topic but I just want to add my views on the matter...

This is exactly the reason I've moved away from GW and into other (10mm) gaming.
First they got rid of the specialists games like blood bowl, warmaster etc, which to me, kept the spirit of a community alive.
The last couple of times I entered their shop up here in Aberdeen I was shocked by the people there. I asked them if they did any other type of gaming and stared me out with a disgusted look. In their eyes, GW is the be all and end all.

Also how they are having a go at all the smaller businesses which use their products upsets my happiness. Surely they would want them on board to help further sales of GW things? Selfish.

Nothing will take away the fantastic models they produce and also the ones I have in my cupboard but the way GW as a company have been acting recently has really put me off playing at their events or even buying their products.

Rant over :-)

That pic of the guy in the space marine outfit is odd...

[fsn]

The one at the back looks decidedly like Earthworm Jim!

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

No, Jim's head is too big!

[get2grips]

The guy at the back...could they find anyone with more of a pinhead than that???

[Techno]

It does look wrong, doesn't it ?
Cheers - Phil

[WeeWars]

What scale is he?

And what about the backpack floating away on its own?