Modern Kit

Started by Rob, 29 September 2013, 06:29:04 PM

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Rob

Had a nice day yesterday at Derby and a long converstion with Dave about Pendraken dropping all other designs and concentrating on bringing out a modern range.  :)

Actually this all started with me drooling over the rather excellent T55 and Centurion models that were on display. Absolutely bloody brilliant they are. Dave and Leon says they will bring out some Chinese and North Korean (?) infantry and that should get the ball rolling with the Korea conflict.

So to get the ball rolling I would like to request some 70s and 80s kit that the Falklands infantry will be able to used with.

1.British
Chieftain, FV432 (also with mortar and wombat), FV438, Ferret, Fox.

2. U.S.
M1, M113 and variants. U.S. infantry with M16 and M60. (will the Vietnam figures be OK?)

3. Soviet
T62, T64A and B, T80, T72, BMP1, BMP2, ZSU23/4 and infantry. Note that although a T72 is essential, the T72 is an export tank and in Europe was used mainly by Soviet satellites. The best Soviet formations used the T64 or T80.

I am trying to pick as few vehicles as possible to enable some war-gaming forces to be built.

Cheers, Rob  :)

fsn

Chinese and North Korean Infantry??!!!!!!

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Steve J

Hmmm, the Chinese and North Korean infantry would be nice :).

GrumpyOldMan

Hi All

Quote from: Rob on 29 September 2013, 06:29:04 PM
Dave and Leon says they will bring out some Chinese and North Korean (?) infantry

Well if the infantry look like this:-



Then that could cover Manchurian, Mongolian and Northern Warlord for the 1920s to 1940s as well. Definitely interested. Might also cover Siberian WW2 as well.



Cheers

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fsn

You know what this means though? My Korean War will have to wait until the Chinese/North Koreans are out. My Centurions will have to stand idle until there is a suitable foe.  :'(
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Steve J

Just buy a load of T-34/85s and have a tank-on-tank battle :D.

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Agree on the Cent and T55. The Vietnam US stuff will pass up to about 86/7 when the Fitz Helmet was introduced.

As to vehicles - Leo I - used all and sundry, although there is reason why, and a turret upgrade for the M48 to give a 105 version.

A Merkava would be useful, and a BTR60/70/80 (earlier one better), as well as BRDM-2.

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Rob

You are probably right about the BTRn Ian. The difficulty though given the pace that vehicles will come through will be to get a set where you can get two sides and have a game.

Cheers, Rob  :)

Hertsblue

Korean War infantry first and foremost. You can feed in vehicles as they become available. Other conflicts (Indo-Pak, Six Day War etc.) might be catered for by British or US WW2 figures. Let's face it, it's not all going to arrive in one glorious heap.  :)
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Absolutely. You can do the British in Korea with Centurions, Land Rovers, Carriers, 25pdrs and WWII Inf. The Yanks used Shermans and assorted WWII kit. You can use T34/85's and SU100's but we do need some Communist infantry.  


Pleeeease!  :D :D :D :D :D  
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Quote from: Hertsblue on 01 October 2013, 09:39:16 AM
Korean War infantry first and foremost. You can feed in vehicles as they become available. Other conflicts (Indo-Pak, Six Day War etc.) might be catered for by British or US WW2 figures. Let's face it, it's not all going to arrive in one glorious heap.  :)

Quote from: fsn on 01 October 2013, 09:46:39 AM
Absolutely. You can do the British in Korea with Centurions, Land Rovers, Carriers, 25pdrs and WWII Inf. The Yanks used Shermans and assorted WWII kit. You can use T34/85's and SU100's but we do need some Communist infantry. 

I agree chaps (although I am not so sure about landrovers in Korea) it is a quick win and should be done how you say.  :)

However we also have the excellent Falklands Brits, the superb Scorpion/Scimiter vehicles and the Argentineans would double for 70s/80s Germans I think (?)


Cheers, Rob  :)

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Quote from: Rob on 06 October 2013, 05:10:59 PM
I agree chaps (although I am not so sure about landrovers in Korea) it is a quick win and should be done how you say.  :)

Land Rovers went into production in 1948, so they certainly existed. I've no idea whether or not they were used in Korea, though.

I seem to recall the MOD tried to make an equivalent, and it became the Austin Champ. Not sure if they ever saw service, though.

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fsn

Quote from: Rob on 06 October 2013, 05:10:59 PM
...although I am not so sure about landrovers in Korea.


"The Korean war started in June and British forces working within NATO took their Land Rovers with them and were very pleased with the results."

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Quote from: Russell Phillips on 06 October 2013, 05:36:08 PM
Land Rovers went into production in 1948, so they certainly existed. I've no idea whether or not they were used in Korea, though.

I seem to recall the MOD tried to make an equivalent, and it became the Austin Champ. Not sure if they ever saw service, though.

The Land Rover Mk1 was used extensively in Korea and the Austen Champ was also sent in small numbers for evaluation.  I drove one in 70s - it was a superb piece of kit - but not soldier proof and hard to maintain in the field.

My modest suggestion would be for a number of generic post war type figures - not far removed from what Peter Pig does in 15mm AK47 range- a few types in cap with rifles and smgs would be very useful - Have a look at Imex Republic of Korea plastics - that genre of figure- and expand a few more WW2 Commando figures - berets, cap comforters, Dennison smocks (yes- WW2 commandos wore them) with Thompson SMGs and Bazookas.

In Korea 41 Commando were issued with US equipment and uniforms - but naturally kept  their  green lids