New Russian Military

[Fenton]

http://defense-update.com/20130821_moscow-expected-to-showcase-new-combat-vehicles-at-rae-2013.html

[Leon]

That artist impression looks pretty cool, heading into SciFi territory almost:

[Ithoriel]

So, how long before fsn realises he just HAS to have some 10mm examples? 

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

30 seconds ?

I want one now

IanS

[sebigboss79]

Looking good but beauty usually never wins wars.
Besides ease of maintenance did you know that just 60 % of the Warsaw Pact equipment was actually in any kind of state to be battleworthy withing "reasonable time" ?

Rumour has it that NATO would have outnumbered the Soviet tank formations 3/2....
Nonetheless remains the Merkava my favourite tank (eyecandy).

[Hertsblue]

Since no-one knows for sure what the thing looks like, let alone what it can do, it would seem a little previous. Reminds me of the great MiG 25 debate (that plane was reputed to do everything but play the balilaika) forty years ago. 

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/aug/22/russian-military-hovercraft-beach-video at least we know they can beat up tourists on a beach...

[sebigboss79]

Since no-one knows for sure what the thing looks like, let alone what it can do, it would seem a little previous. Reminds me of the great MiG 25 debate (that plane was reputed to do everything but play the balilaika) forty years ago. 

Which is partly justified.

[Russell Phillips]

Since no-one knows for sure what the thing looks like, let alone what it can do, it would seem a little previous. Reminds me of the great MiG 25 debate (that plane was reputed to do everything but play the balilaika) forty years ago. 

Exactly. Remember when the T-80 was supposed to look like this?

[sebigboss79]

Overcompensating?

[Russell Phillips]

The people commissioning that artist's impression were probably the same people asking for more M1s/Challengers. The bigger and badder the other guy's tanks, the easier it is to secure funding for your own tanks. I seem to recall rumours that the KGB or GRU had stolen the details of how to make Chobham armour.

[Last Hussar]

The US didn't do bad with the F117.  Everyone convinced it was bell shaped- Even Tom Clancy in Red Storm Rising

[fsn]

Seems to me that tanks, like cars are all developed by the same styling agency. They all look the same. Computer generated. Not like the good old days when if it had a turret that looked like an upturned frying pan, it was Soviet, if it had an extra tiny turret on top it was Yank and if it looked properly manly, it was British. 

[Hertsblue]

The US didn't do bad with the F117.  Everyone convinced it was bell shaped- Even Tom Clancy in Red Storm Rising

Ah, one of my favorite books. It was based on a wargame - how many books can you say that about?

[mart678]

Does it matter what it looks like it will have a 125mm smoothbore also an Autoloader and then some heavy machine guns or cannons it will still be a soviet tank and you will need a lot more to do the job of 1 Challenger II or M1