Blather, Waffle and Poppycock!

Started by Leon, 24 February 2013, 05:21:09 PM

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Techno

PAH !!

I don't go in for all that new fangled stuff !

Cheers - Phil

Westmarcher

Actually, this rant is war-game related, I suppose, but I'm not sure it warrants me starting a new topic. I've just finished watching an interesting documentary about the Halifax bomber* on Amazon Prime (I used to have the Airfix model of that one) and being a wee bit 'corn beef' ('deef' .... deaf ...  but not the 'end of life' word used in the SE of Engerlund), I had the subtitles on. Possibly the person doing the subtitles was also a wee bit 'corn beef' because some of the interpretations of what had actually been said started to become annoying (e.g., instead of a German Ack Ack Battery it was described as a German Attack Battery).

I then started another documentary about the Hawker Hurricane. again, with subtitles on. This time you had footage of said plane whizzing by with the caption, "jet engine roars!"  #-o immediately followed by "distant radio chatter" - it was an air display and what you were hearing in the background was the commentary on the tannoy!

I soon switched off the subtitles. Really. What kind of people do they get to do these subtitles? Money for old rope! Rant over.   >:(

* Mrs Westie's eyes lit up when I started to tell her about me watching this documentary on "The Halifax Bomber"  - she immediately lost interest when she realised it was about an aeroplane and not what she was thinking ....  
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

Techno

I've heard of 'mutton' (mutton jeff = deaf)  used by "Lahdaners"  Davy.....But I can't think of the 'end of life' one.....'Brown bread' = dead. :-\

Cheers - Phil :)

Westmarcher

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Westmarcher on 09 March 2020, 01:40:07 PM
Actually, this rant is war-game related, I suppose, but I'm not sure it warrants me starting a new topic. I've just finished watching an interesting documentary about the Halifax bomber* on Amazon Prime (I used to have the Airfix model of that one) and being a wee bit 'corn beef' ('deef' .... deaf ...  but not the 'end of life' word used in the SE of Engerlund), I had the subtitles on. Possibly the person doing the subtitles was also a wee bit 'corn beef' because some of the interpretations of what had actually been said started to become annoying (e.g., instead of a German Ack Ack Battery it was described as a German Attack Battery).

I then started another documentary about the Hawker Hurricane. again, with subtitles on. This time you had footage of said plane whizzing by with the caption, "jet engine roars!"  #-o immediately followed by "distant radio chatter" - it was an air display and what you were hearing in the background was the commentary on the tannoy!

I soon switched off the subtitles. Really. What kind of people do they get to do these subtitles? Money for old rope! Rant over.   >:(

* Mrs Westie's eyes lit up when I started to tell her about me watching this documentary on "The Halifax Bomber"  - she immediately lost interest when she realised it was about an aeroplane and not what she was thinking ....  

Some subtitles are now done by Artificial Intelligence of the Amazon Alexa variety.
It's not great with background noise, accents or slang.

The same problem plagues the news coverage.

Westmarcher

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 09 March 2020, 06:11:10 PM

The same problem plagues the news coverage.

Yep! Seen examples of that before.  Once saw some local politician talking about housing and somehow daleks entered the conversation (but only in the subtitles, of course).  :o
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

Ithoriel

Quote from: Techno on 09 March 2020, 05:31:07 PM
I've heard of 'mutton' (mutton jeff = deaf)  used by "Lahdaners"  Davy.....But I can't think of the 'end of life' one.....'Brown bread' = dead. :-

Cheers - Phil :)

Deaf an' taxis, mate, deaf an' taxis. Tha two fings yer carn't avoid. :)
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Orcs

As someone who comes from East London and is almost a proper Cockney, and probably as near as you are going to get nowadays.  

I would like to point out in most cases you only use the first word of the Rhyme

eg Lionel Blairs = Flares (as in trousers). You would say "Look at his Lionel's"

Brown Bread = Dead
China Plate= Mate
Bristol Cities = I'll leave you to work out that one.
Trouble and Strife = Wife ( I don't have one opf those)
Septic Tank = Yank
Plates of meat= Feet
Dog and bone = Phone
Khyber Pass = Arse
Tom Tit = Sh*t
Jimy Riddle = Piddle
Pony and trap =Crap
Frog and Toad = Road
Brad and Honey = Money
Butchers Hook = Look

They are loads of them. In the easy end they were often coupled with backward slang to make conversations even more private to the uninitiated.

Other correct pronunciation is to do the following

H's should normally be dropped  eg hands becomes 'ands


th often sounds as a had F  at the as in "I an just having a fink" (Think),  or as a hard v in Father = FarVa

G's at the end of words are dropped as in Nothing = Nufin

er is pronounces as a soft  a

T's in the middle of words are often dropped so:-

Butter = Bu a
Father = Farva
Mothers = Mova
Water = wa a

'ere endef the lesson




The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Orcs

Quote from: Techno on 09 March 2020, 05:31:07 PM
I've heard of 'mutton' (mutton jeff = deaf)  used by "Lahdaners"  Davy.....But I can't think of the 'end of life' one.....'Brown bread' = dead. :-

Cheers - Phil :)

Yep that is the correct rhyming slang for Deaf. as in "That old mans a bit mutton "
The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Duke Speedy of Leighton

Now add a good dose of Polari...
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Last Hussar

Oooh, nice to vada your eek.

Come in and take the weight off your lallies.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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Westmarcher

(British) Forces TV.

As a historical wargamer (who has played some fantasy games), I'm personally disappointed. But, on the bright side, I suppose you could argue they are learning strategy and tactics, the game genre and their generation is (hopefully) better equipped to adapt to the nature of future warfare and maybe, just maybe, they'll 'progress' to historical gaming.    :)
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Westmarcher on 16 March 2020, 01:41:59 PM
(British) Forces TV.

As a historical wargamer (who has played some fantasy games), I'm personally disappointed. But, on the bright side, I suppose you could argue they are learning strategy and tactics, the game genre and their generation is (hopefully) better equipped to adapt to the nature of future warfare and maybe, just maybe, they'll 'progress' to historical gaming.    :)


Our boys have been caught out using tactics form the last war too often.
Nice to see they're planning into the dark future.

Last Hussar

I'm worried about Nobby.

He may be dead because I appear to be channelling him...

https://twitter.com/FrankyBabes/status/1241156501147918337

(You'll need to open the whole thread, not just the bits it shows. Long story short I was effectively told to get my coat)
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."
Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Last Hussar

Playing War Thunder - Like World of Tanks, but with aircraft (and a whole Torpedo boat bit as well). As the vehicles are what you take, you can have Valentines fighting alongside Pz III both shooting at an enemy Sherman.

Anyway - I shot down a Spitfire with the Co-ax of my Crusader.  The other side seemed to have gone with a lot of aircraft, so we threw a lot of .303 into the air.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."
Franklin D. Roosevelt

GNU PTerry