Another use for Interwar/VBCW stuff

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hi

Looking around for more stuff to use my early stuff for, I came across the Franco-Thai war of 1940/41.

Lots of Vickers and other early stuff used, including Carden Loyd's (gosh, is there somewhere else you could use something as handy as this !!  ) ) 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Thai_War
http://web.archive.org/web/20091027105105/http://geocities.com/thailandwwii/ftw.html
http://france1940.free.fr/e41index.html#Indochina

I'm thinking of using WW1 Italians for Thais:-


Any suggestions for figures to stand in for Tonkinese rifles? They wore a standard French colonial uniform with pith helmet. Do WW1 British Imperials wear shorts or long trousers?

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[Steve J]

Thanks for this Grumpy . Never heard of this conflict but probably have enough forces to game a small action though .

[sunjester]

Fascinating stuff, it's really tempting as I've got most of the armour! 

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

This one caught my eye last night too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Turkish_War

[FierceKitty]

You'll need special rules for the Thais. Lost rifles, ammunition put in backward, chatting while the officers are trying to give them orders, not turning up at all....

[Orcs]

You'll need special rules for the Thais. Lost rifles, ammunition put in backward, chatting while the officers are trying to give them orders, not turning up at all....

Sounds like they have the right idea-


When your government declares war dont turn up.  If all normal people took this view we would not have any conflicts at all. Which wouldv just leave the politicians to do the fighting themselves. 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello FK

You'll need special rules for the Thais. Lost rifles, ammunition put in backward, chatting while the officers are trying to give them orders, not turning up at all....

Yes it looks like it could be fun all round, using rules/event cards for this and also rules/event cards for decrepit AFVs and aircraft for the French. It looks like there was lot of jingoism at the time trying to stir up the Thais. But still it would look great with Renault Ft17, Vickers and Landswerk (Toldi) tanks running around  . Oh, if only we had Carden Loyds Mk VIs! 

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[FierceKitty]

Sounds like they have the right idea-


When your government declares war dont turn up.  If all normal people took this view we would not have any conflicts at all. Which wouldv just leave the politicians to do the fighting themselves. 

I'd like to agree with you. Unfortunately the Burmese have tended to be more military about it. Which is why you've probably never heard of Ayyuthaya, although up to 1767 it was the largest city in the world.

[Dickie255]

Do WW1 British Imperials wear shorts or long trousers?

-  Shorts! Have you thought about some of the colonial range for the Tonkinese Rifles? If their uniform is like the French Colonial troops the Zulu Brits.might be the nearest looking.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello Dickie255

-  Shorts! Have you thought about some of the colonial range for the Tonkinese Rifles? If their uniform is like the French Colonial troops the Zulu Brits.might be the nearest looking.

Below is another reference I found on uniforms that probably means I can squeeze the Imperials into French Colonials:-

The uniform of colonial troops (the French colonial soldiers were termed "Marsouins", meaning "Dolphins") was light-weight and sand-coloured, with a short-sleeved shirt and shorts. With this were worn regulation khaki puttees and boots, either a sand-coloured sun-hat (topee) or the Adrian helmet (both with the gilt anchor insignia of the Colonial troops on the front), and possibly also the standard khaki greatcoat. Equipment was in natural leather. European and Indochinese troops wore the same uniform. Officers wore the sun-hat with a light-weight version of the European uniform in sand colour. Kepis may also have been worn by officers.

Just have to think how to get Hotchkiss machine guns into it now  .

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[barbarian]

Marsouin means Porpoise.

[Dickie255]

with a short-sleeved shirt and shorts. With this were worn regulation khaki puttees and boots, either a sand-coloured sun-hat (topee)

Ahhh............then definitely, go with the WW1 Brit. Imps. then as they fulfill all that uniform criteria as in shorts, short sleeved shirt and puttees. The helmet is a Wolsey type. I hope that is of use?

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello Dickie255

I (and my optometrist  ) think that I won't notice the difference too much between the Wolseley and the French topee



Now to sit down and see what else is required (best bit)

Cheers

GrumpyOldman