FOW? and other rules.

[Hurley]

Has anyone ever done FOW in 10mm? If so how did you do the basing?

Also what other fun WW2 rules are out there.

[sertorius]

IABSM by too fat lardies is a fast and fun company level game. A pendraken army would cost about £12 depending on what you wanted.

[Nosher]

Blitzkrieg Commander is a great set and largely based on 10mm as a scale

[Leon]

We get a lot of people using our stuff for FoW, but I'd have to check on the basing sizes.

[MiniPatton]

I'll second Blitzkrieg Commander

[Eldamarelf]

Spearhead with some club modifications, we like this set as it is fairly quick and fun to play plus we usually get a 18 - 24 foot by 6 table done over a weekend last game was the battle of Prochorovka which was a very full table of 14' x 6' oh and as the umpire i was totally impartial even though my ruskies kicked butt. I will try to upload some pictures as soon as I get a chance.

Tom

[nikharwood]

Blitzkrieg Commander for me - it was *great* originally & now it's *stunning* in 2nd edition 

[Leon]

Blitzkrieg Commander for me - it was *great* originally & now it's *stunning* in 2nd edition 

Are you talking about the rules, or all your nice figures in the pictures?!

[nikharwood]

 

[Luddite]

Fow is one of the wost WWII rule sets ever written. 

Blitzkrieg Commander however is excellent and designed for 10mm figs.

Examples of our stuff here...http://www.durhamwargames.co.uk/battle_reports/2010/02/index.asp

[Stefanpanzer]

Blitzkreig Commander or else...or is that a bit too demanding?

[Ben Waterhouse]

I've got BKC version 1. Now then as I only bought it a year ago should I get version 2?

[Luddite]

I've got BKC version 1. Now then as I only bought it a year ago should I get version 2?

Up to you really.

2nd Ed. dosn't make any fundamental changes but puts in a lot of little tweaks that smoothe over some of the issues. 

We upgraded, but its not essentially really.

The one thing i was surprised at is that the Future War skirmish rules haven't been developed into the other periods and 2nd Ed.  I think they have real potential to challenge Legends of the Old West as a top skirmish set.

[ca_sadler]

I like Spearhead. The only drawback is that the overall commander who gives the order has the most fun because he plans the strategy. However, with that said, if the goal is to try to re-enact history or the like, you will have fun. If you like to nitpick the rules just to win, you will not fully enjoy Spearhead.

Gregg

[dolabra]

My group is doing Spearhead. We are trying to do the war 75 years later. In September - November we did Poland 1939, We just finished Winter War 1940. I am gearing up for Norway in April, then France and the Low Countries through this Summer.

Larry

[dolabra]

I also use Spearhead rules.  I base my 10mm Infantry on 1 1/4" x 1 1/4" bases, My Vehicles on 1 1/4" x  1 1/2" or 2" for Bigger Vehicles. 
My rules for infantry are 4 figures for rifle stands, 5 for engineer stands and 3 for SMG stands. For support weapons its 1 per 1 1/4" x 1 1/4" stand with the crew.

Larry

[grimreaper]

Blitzkrieg Commander and pendraken miniatures, What more could you want 

[Sgt Steiner]

Hi

Not a fan of FOW (for any scale, good enough stats and systems let down by awful sequence of play and the 'special' rules and the 'you need the latest booklet' approach), they do have a great web-site though full of interesting articles etc, Anyhow................

Blitzkrieg Commander & Spearhead both mentioned already are great sets.

I would also reccomend Battle Group Panzer Grenadier 2nd Edition for smaller games (ie roughly 1 Coy per side) which works fine for 10mm using 15mm measurements.

I have recently bought Piquet Field Of Battle WWII which is a much higher level set but which looks interesting and perfectly playable with 10mm.

Command Decision Test Of Battle is another set to consider

Really any set that use unit bases for Infantry is suitable for 10mm, beware for they are legion ! 

I guess you could play skirmish style with 10mm but your eyesight and dexterity would need to be good      

Cheers
Gary

[russianiain]

Our group use Operation Warboard. We started off in 15mm but as the games got bigger we dropped the scale to 10mm. All troops are individually based and we run a 1:1 scale for unit sizes.

[Last Hussar]

Personally I can't stand any of the xxC rules.

I Aint been Shot Mum by the Too Fat Lardies is good.  I use my PBI armies, which are 3-4 figs to a base.  We say a base is either 4 or 5 men, and use 2 bases per section (depending on army a section is 8 or 10 men), with a tiny die for casualty marker.  If you get it, and have unbased figures, put them on pennies individually, and do figure removal for kills.

Usual game size is a company, with the section as the unit size.

Their other game is Troops Weapons and Tactics.  Most people use the larger figures for this- I use 20mm because I was given some some years ago, but they were wriiten for 28mm.  Unlike most game 'written for' a size, it is important in TW&T, as figure and ground scale are the same.  You could do it in 10mm by using cm instead of inches, and therefore have a set you coulc play on a coffee table.  Men are again individual, the game is for a platoon+support per side, with 'fire teams' being the smallest unit, though sections are often moved as a whole until you get to the fire and maneouver phase of a battle.

TW&T is sort of son of IABSM.  They are card driven- each platoon(IABSM)/Section(TW&T) has a card, as do the 'Big Men' who can activate troops on their command.  Plus there is a tea break card, which ends the turn. This is either a god send (when you are under the cosh) or frustrating - seeing all those enemy cards reshuffled into the deck when you still have men not yet moved!

Word of warning - parts of the rules rely on judgement- fine if you have an umpire, but negotiation is sometimes called for without one "I'm trying to spot that unit- What do you think 7, maybe 8." "But I did have yopu underfire last turn" "true, but they are running accross open ground- lets go with 8" "Ok"

Don't worry- there are guidelines.

Look- buy IABSM on PDF download- its only seven quid, and if you play FoW or BK(spit)C you already have armies for it. 

If anyone in the Bucks/Herts area wants a game to try them out contact me, and I'll see what I can arrange.