FOW? and other rules.

[Gunhit]

To answer your original question Hurley, yes I used 10mm for FoW, didn't alter bases sizes and had no problems with it. However, FoW was not my cup of tea so moved onto BKC. Initially I liked BKC alot but the nagging doubts crept in. Fun game but not for me, not the right historical feel. 

Adrian

[Last Hussar]

Says the man who has spent the past few weeks desperately selling me on Black Powder as the sliced bread for 18th century to FPW!!!

I haven't spent weeks - or at least not conciously.

If you feel browbeaten then I'm happy to do something else.

[fishunter]

I played a few different wargames over quite some years , and in my experience there's always different factors attracting different kind of gamers.
Some of us like the rules,some the gaming, some the painting , some the research and some everything in between.
For my part , i read do research and read rules because i am an academic at heart, i paint and build because i love my "geeky"hobby(and that still makes the girlfriend laugh ) and i play because i can't resist having fun with some friends.
I get as much good fun playing over detailed and very realistic set of rules as  as i would get playing let's say FOW, it all comes down to how much time on our hands we have.

The point here , i think ,is that you can always tweak rules to suit your gaming style, make your own or pick up those you like from different systems.
I seem to remember that almost all rulbooks include a "designer's notes" section that usually says break and tweak , make it your own.

Anyways,what always attracted me to miniature wargames is the community , discussing ideas and sharing some fun time with my mates.(On that note i met most of my best buddies while wargaming)

So have a grand day and enjoy your favorite ruleset 

[sunjester]

I haven't spent weeks - or at least not conciously.

If you feel browbeaten then I'm happy to do something else.

  Don't worry, I don't feel at all browbeaten about itl.

I just think it's funny, that's all 

[Last Hussar]

[ If I'm playing Last Hussar I play IABSM or TW&T, if I'm playing anyone else its BKC.

You made it sound like I was being 'babysat' - are me and 'Gimli' on some sort of rota?

[Hurley]

Hummm well I've read all the post so far and well I'm not sure about FOW or BKC now. I'm kinda gun sly about games that people say are "elegant" cause in the past every game that I tried that people use that word to describe has turned out to be over simplified and I get the "Emperor's new cloths" effect of everyone who is anyone plays this game! But this could just be me.

Questions:

Does BKC have facings for tanks so that it matters if I shoot them in the side armour? 

[Luddite]

Does BKC have facings for tanks so that it matters if I shoot them in the side armour? 

Yes.

Although given the scale BkC plays at its more of an abstraction than simply 'thinner side armour'...

[lentulus]

I find BKC works for me when each stand is a platoon; when the tanks are individual I want something a bit more "treadhead."  But BKC gets most of the play here, the tactical problems are real enough and two of the "dead" Panzer IVs on my side table right now can testify to the effectiveness of flank shots.

[Jubilation T Cornpone]

Does anyone ever 'cut and shunt' rules where they can't find a set that quite fits the bill? I like BKC and Rapid Fire but wish that BKC had combat resolution like Rapid Fire and that Rapid Fire had a command and control system like BKC!! I've often thought of combining the two. Anybody ever done this?
As to TFL rules. They come up with fun workable systems in some of their sets. Bag the Hun and Kis me Hardy are excellent and innovative. Can't get to grips with their WW2 sets though. Each to their own though. The great thing about wargaming is that there is a set of rules to suit nearly everybodys tastes. Well, nearly everybody anyway......

Gerard.

[Kebabman]

Yes Gerard,I use a hybrid of CWC and MSH for modern 6mm games.BKC/CWC are fantastic rules,but they do struggle when you play a very big game.I use the combat and movement from MSH and the command/the rest from CWC......Hope this helps..........

[Martyn]

FOW is for those who have spent far, far too much time in the company of elves and dwarfs!

[Leon]

... in the company of elves and dwarfs!

In Doncaster?

[Martyn]

Interesting... What other life forms, fictional or otherwise live in Doncaster?

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Is there any human life in Doncaster ?

[Leon]

Interesting... What other life forms, fictional or otherwise live in Doncaster?

I lived there for about 6 months and saw plenty of Trolls...

[The_Shootist]

FOW i wont touch with a barge pole any more, i wrote the lists for the British airborne for D-1, the mid war briefing and recently the lists for the market garden books. But in their usual wisdom they take hard work and historical accuracy and ignore them so they can sell more toys, which makes me sick.

I personally prefer Battlefront WW2 rules by fire&fury, these can be used with 10-20mm scales and is set at a battalion level BUT can be used for bigger brigade level games which we play at Bovvy

[Steve J]

Interesting to hear your comments on FoW Shootist . Personally I've pretty much given up on playing FoW, although I sometimes play a game with friends for a change, but to be honest, do not enjoy it. BKC ticks all the boxes for me.

[The_Shootist]

I find the fire and fury rules do the same for me currently writing new scenarios for early war, and planning a mega game at Bovvy in 2013.
Just waiting for the French stuff to be released..<hint>

[Steve J]

I've never played F&F but it looks quite good. I think I'll stick with BKC/CWC/FWC for my games as the mechanics are the same for each game which, I find, a big bonus these days.