Expert advice needed - Vickers 6 ton tank

Started by Sunray, 01 July 2011, 04:56:21 PM

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Sunray

What a neat little model we have in IW2 (Vickers E type B).  Inter war buffs like me will have them in our next order.

One query that experts can help with.  The 47mm gun is the old 3pdr of WW1 vintage.  Lower velocity than the 2prds of the WW2, BUT  ...capable of H/E .

This makes them very useful on the table, but as I fight with BKC (don't we all ?) it would be good to have AT  AP CA etc for this piece of kit.
Something like 1/20 AT and 1/60AP perhaps ?

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Sunray out     

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

You wont be far worng with AT as PaK 36 (no APCR), AP as German 50mm (calibre is roughly same). Is it not listed in the Poles (been a long day and I is too lazy to recover rules from floor), they certainly used the B. 7TP woul be similar.

IanS
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Sunray

Spot on old boy! Forgot about the origional Vickers E being used by our Polish allies - I wrongly assumed they had upgunned the 7TP with 37mm in their 1939 OOB.  Still getting a handle on this interwar period.

  Page 115 of the new BKC rates the Vickers E 47mm as AT 2/50 and A/P of 1/60 .   Making this a VERY useful piece of interwar kit on the table.

Thanks Ian.

Sunray Out

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Good - probably why we didnt use it.....

IanS
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Sunray

Yeah !  The 1930s War Office spec on tanks tells a tale of muddle and confusion that impacted designs until the Comet and Centurion arrive late on the scene.

When you think about it, the Brits and the Russians get the Christie about the same time.  The Russians take the design via the BT-7 to the T-34 as early as 1940.  The Brits end up with the Cruiser Mark iv and Crusader in the same time span.

Perhaps that's why the 1930s (VBCW) et al are so popular.  The Vickers 6 ton was a mean piece of kit.  Lovely model Pendraken !

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Sunray

Quote from: ianrs54 on 01 July 2011, 06:26:07 PM
Good - probably why we didnt use it.....

IanS

I was intrigued why/how third rate and emerging armies like the Bolivians and Poles aquired the A6 and the British Army did not - given that it was the best piece of kit around in 1934, and the obvious replacement for the MkII Medium.  Suprise suprise, the answer is in the Defence budget, the A6 cost £16,000. Too much per unit for the peace time  army, so Sir John Carden was tasked to design a cheap infantry tank which emerged as the A9. 

We Brits just don't like to spend money on our armoured forces.

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