Several Questions

Started by Zypheria, 18 September 2023, 01:07:53 PM

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Zypheria

Hi guys! My poor Blue Division guys are in the way to face an Assault (Scenario 2) from the perfidious Soviet Union.

I'm planing to Entrench almost all my forces (Trenches and Gun Pits) to resist the enemy advance but I have several questions about deployment and scheduled strikes.

In pág 15 under Concealed Troops the rules states that troops inside Trenches or Gun Pits are considered Concealed to the enemy and per se no visible.

In pág 58 Under Scenario Checklist point 10 I should deploy all visible field defenses on the table. I'm assuming that Trenches and Gun Pits as are considered NO visible to the enemy shouldn't be deployed on table. I'm correct?

If so how do you do to mark the position of your troops/trenches to evade accusations or supieses of cheating?

What happens to the troops that are inside those NO visible/NO deployed troops if they are affected by an enemy Off-Table/Scheduled Artillery Strike? Are they affected at all? Should I reveal them?

Can I use as defender other deployment options in the Assault Escenario as Hidden/Ambush Deployment?


An infantry unit in a trench is considered Low Profile and Dug-In.  I assume that:
1: a -1D6 is applied when shooted from the Low Profile
2: The trench gives a 6 score needed to hit from the full cover
3: the trench gives the infantry unit a 6+ save
4: Does the Dug-In gives and additional -1D6 when shoot from the 90° frontal arc? or as the last phrase from de Dig-In rule says, being in the trench has it's own specific characteristics?
 
Probably more questions in the future.

Jordi

Im in the situacions.
In pág 58 Under Scenario Checklist point 10 I should deploy all visible field defenses on the table. I'm assuming that Trenches and Gun Pits as are considered NO visible to the enemy shouldn't be deployed on table. I'm correct?

Big Insect

All Field Defenses - that are visible (& that will include most of them, other than Hidden Minefields) must be deployed upon the table. However, you can buy more field defenses than you need to deploy all your troops and some of these may have troops in, some may not. Your opponent will have to try and guess which ones are occupied.

As troops may be Concealed within Field Defenses and are not visible to the enemy, until they fire, move or are spotted at close range, what you need to do is either, place a marker under your field defenses or draw a map (& place it so your opponent can see that you have not subsequently tampered with it). If using the marker option, the markers should not be visible to the enemy (I use small pieces of artist masking tape - as that peels off very easily) and you should write a number on the marker which corresponds to a unit in my army list. If your Field Defenses are small, then place a marker under all of them, but write 'Dummy' on the empty ones.

Troops that are Concealed cannot be targeted by enemy LoS or LoF on-table weapons (so cannot receive casualties) until the enemy are within 10cm in the open or 5cm in cover.
Also, troops that are Concealed that fall under an enemy (or friendly) area weapon template (from off-table artillery or air strikes that are pre-registered or directed by an Observer) will receive no casualties.
This is a game-play mechanism as it allows the game to be played without an umpire or the need for hidden casualty calculation/counting.
This is not unrealistic as most Field Defenses provide very good cover especially from artillery or mortars, until they can be very closely observed.
So until the defending troops are spotted, they are in-effect immune to enemy fire.

Don't forget, however, that enemy Recce units can reveal your units in Field Fortifications quite easily and quickly :o

Also, think about how you place your Field Defenses - the bit in the 'Fury' film which has the German infantry dug-in in fox-holes in front of the wood, but with the PaK40 ATGs in cover in the tree-line some way back is a good example. I think the outcome in the film was highly 'optimistic' for the US Sherman's (personally  ;D ) as at that range the Pak40 should have torn them to bits!!!

When attacking an enemy dug-in and Concealed within Field Fortifications - Smoke is the attackers best friend.
By laying down a line if smoke that screens off a section of enemy fortifications from the supporting fire of units behind it or to its flank(s) the attacker can overwhelm the defender in small sections.

I hope all this is helpful?
Cheers
Mark
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Jordi

Thanks for the clarificació.

Jordi

Another question about concealed troops. In page 15 saps that tropes are concealed eren "They move to the edge of cover when they were previously out-of-sigh". We understand cover is àrea terrain (all types) NOT lineal terrain. Is this correct?

Thanks

Big Insect

Quote from: Jordi on 21 December 2024, 07:05:34 AMAnother question about concealed troops. In page 15 saps that tropes are concealed eren "They move to the edge of cover when they were previously out-of-sigh". We understand cover is àrea terrain (all types) NOT lineal terrain. Is this correct?

Thanks

Yes - linear obstacles have their own specific definition - see PAGE 14: "LoS is blocked unless either the target or the observer are in base-contact with the terrain'

Cheers
Mark
'He could have lived a risk-free, moneyed life, but he preferred to whittle away his fortune on warfare.' Xenophon, The Anabasis

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Jordi