Jewish Revolt

Started by Duke Speedy of Leighton, 21 October 2021, 07:45:18 PM

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

21 October 2021, 07:45:18 PM Last Edit: 21 October 2021, 07:55:33 PM by Lord Speedy of Leighton
SPLITTERS!
Hi all,
Come December I am using a Jewish Revolt army in a 'friendly company at Wolvercote on Oxford. SPLITTERS!
The ultimate insane list. 9 fighting units, 8 units of skirmishers, generals are Woderwick, Woger, Wyberton and Brian...

Now, the serious bit.
Figures...
Forged in Battle do a dedicated Jewish Maccabian range in 15mm.
So do Xyston...
But you know me, I would rather do 10mm.
What ranges can I get away with?
SPLITTERS!
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steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 21 October 2021, 07:45:18 PM
SPLITTERS!
Hi all,
Come December I am using a Jewish Revolt army in a 'friendly company at Wolvercote on Oxford. SPLITTERS!
The ultimate insane list. 9 fighting units, 8 units of skirmishers, generals are Woderwick, Woger, Wyberton and Brian...

Now, the serious bit.
Figures...
Forged in Battle do a dedicated Jewish Maccabian range in 15mm.
So do Xyston...
But you know me, I would rather do 10mm.
What ranges can I get away with?
SPLITTERS!

That rather depends which revolt you have in mind.

A Maccabean army (at least the regulars) will have a fairly Helllenistic look, but white tunics with a blue hemline.

The later ones were such splitters that you have three to choose from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_wars


And shouldn't the 4th general be Bwian?

pierre the shy

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 21 October 2021, 10:20:29 PM
And shouldn't the 4th general be Bwian?

There's no pleasing some people!  ;)
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Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 21 October 2021, 10:20:29 PM
That rather depends which revolt you have in mind.

A Maccabean army (at least the regulars) will have a fairly Helllenistic look, but white tunics with a blue hemline.

The later ones were such splitters that you have three to choose from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_wars


And shouldn't the 4th general be Bwian?

Thank-you,
1st Revolt definitely.
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Very silly idea, have fun....
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 October 2021, 06:11:46 AM
Very silly idea, have fun....
It's one of those lists where if you get one win it will be the greatest celebration ever!  8)
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Big Insect

But wat about an allied Wroman division? Commanded by Bigguth Dickuth?
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DecemDave

If you are going full Python, then the army should also have unreliable allies from its own list. 

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 22 October 2021, 05:51:56 AM
Thank-you,
1st Revolt definitely.

My memory is a bit shaky, so I could be out by a century or so.

I recall Herod had a foreign guard (The in thing for every hated tyrant of the age), with Gauls, Germans and (Brain fading a bit) maybe Spaniards.
There would have been contingents of Hellenistics (Peltast types, and maybe some horsemen).

The fighting strength of the native revolt will be generic middle eastern warriors.
You can probably improvise with packs from the Greek, Carthaginian and Republican Roman lists.
No Trousers, so no Gauls or Persians.
Avoid the obviously well armed or armoured - so things like peltasts, Italian allies, Spanish auxiliaries, and suitably selected archers and slingers.

Supporting these will be the hordes.
A few of the above mixed with a lot of Greek/Roman civilians.


Good luck, please post pictures.




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FierceKitty

Herod was a longggg time before the great revolt. Does the dress of the 23rd Berkshire at Waterloo provide much guide to their appearance at Alamein?
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Ithoriel

Posted by: FierceKitty

"Herod was a longggg time before the great revolt. Does the dress of the 23rd Berkshire at Waterloo provide much guide to their appearance at Alamein? "

Wut?

Firstly are we talking Herod the Great or Herod Antipas?

Herod the Great died sometime 4BCE to 1BCE. The Great Jewish Revolt starts in 66CE. So we're looking at 70 years or so. At a time when the pace of change was rather slower for the most part than it is now.

If Antipas we are probably talking 20 years or less. So 1918 to 1939 sort of timescale.

Though, given the Tetrarchs were in power courtesy of the Romans, any foreign bodyguards are likely to be fighting against the Jews rather than for them. 

The Jews would mainly be unarmoured slingers, archers or javelinmen. Psiloi or Peltast types in the main. Shields seem to be mainly small and round.

So, the suggestions by steve_holmes_11 seem about right to me.


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Quote from: FierceKitty on 23 October 2021, 04:57:19 AM
One slinger should be enough.

Not called David by any chance ? Cause he's defo BCE !
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