Panic buying of petrol

[mmcv]

To be fair I've gone from voracious carnivore to maybe 80% veggie in the last few years so the mind control rays are clearly working...

[Leman]

Fear not, with the culling and burning of thousands of pigs on British farms there is clearly no shortage of meat. Apparently Boris Johnson is being driven to distraction by vegetarianism.

[toxicpixie]

Fear not, with the culling and burning of thousands of pigs on British farms there is clearly no shortage of meat. Apparently Boris Johnson is being driven to distraction by vegetarianism.

"As the people who staff our food supply chain have gone back to the Continent, we no longer have any one to do proper vaguely safe animal slaugter. So we're just going to slaughter them wholesale and chuck them" is not the greatest of end results, is it.

[Westmarcher]

It's a pity the various UK butchers guilds and trade associations can't organise something to make sure that some or even the majority of these beasts can be butchered by their members on a voluntary basis and the meat frozen for both current and later distribution to people in need (e.g., those who rely on food banks, etc.).

[toxicpixie]

Not so long ago we had thousands of abattoirs and slaughterhouses, semi-locally based.

They all got eaten and we're down to a tiny few massive industrial processing slaughterhouses.

Which now have no workers.

It's like if we were going to throw out everyone who staffs haulage we should have heavily invested in training new drivers three plus years ago. Same for nursing, social care, slaughterhouses, fruit picking, potato digging, etc etc etc.

There's literally no one can step in, hence suggestions that OAPs and prisoners drive trucks, the Army staffing hospitals, driving trucks, repalcing sacked firemen, outsourcing policing and prisons etc etc.

But we're veering into PvP there, however obvious the results and blame, so I'll quit

[Raider4]

Well, at least the horse racing people are making some effort to try & ensure we don't end up eating Shergar by mistake.

[toxicpixie]

Well, at least the horse racing people are making some effort to try & ensure we don't end up eating Shergar by mistake.

I... but... whut...

[Ben Waterhouse]

Well, at least the horse racing people are making some effort to try & ensure we don't end up eating Shergar by mistake.

I had a cheval burger in La Belle France when on attachment to the 2RIMA back in the late '70s. Very gamey and tasty, as well as being much more healthy than most burgers...

[Raider4]

Nowt intrinsically wrong with eating horse. It's the chemicals that race horses may contain that are the problem.

[Heedless Horseman]

Myself... just wouldn't! But, was amused over 'Sharpe's Waterloo'... with dead horse steak fry up in a Cuirrassier's breastplate... with animal fat Grease from an axle! 

[Orcs]

I am a carnivore - its not  a proper meal unless something has died.

However I think people would appreciate meat more  ( and be more likely to eat less of it ) if you had to kill and prepare your own meat, rather than picking it  up a plastic tray.

[Westmarcher]

I had a cheval burger in La Belle France when on attachment to the 2RIMA back in the late '70s. Very gamey and tasty, as well as being much more healthy than most burgers...

Was that a mane course and did you feel foal up afterwards?

[Ithoriel]

When's the best time to plant a tree?

Thirty years ago.

When's the  second best time?

Right now.

We have, metaphorically, not planted trees and even if we plant them now we will not soon sit in their shade.

Not enough investment in housing, renewable energy, climate change mitigation, automation, etc., etc. is coming back to bite us.

♪ "There may be trouble ahead" ♪

[Leon]

I remember reading an article in National Geographic (I think?) about kangaroo being an ideal meat for farming, due to low feed costs, no methane production, etc.  There just didn't seem to be much appetite (!) for it globally.

[toxicpixie]

It's not bad. I've had 'roo burger and steak and all I can recall is it wasn't bad.

So either inoffensively bland or exactly like beef/chicken/whatver it was close enough to I now can't differentiate!

[steve_holmes_11]

I remember reading an article in National Geographic (I think?) about kangaroo being an ideal meat for farming, due to low feed costs, no methane production, etc.  There just didn't seem to be much appetite (!) for it globally.

The main drawback is the size of fences required.


Ostrich is another of those meats that was going to revolutionise farming.
"I really couldn't eat a whole drumstick".

I remember receiving a panicked phone call form the Mrs one summer afternoon.
I was cycling down Ayrshire way, and a farm in the county had a mass Ostrich escape.
Nowhere near my location, though neither of us knew that at the time.

Vicious creatures though, tear you open with their claws, and utterly wreck an airliner in a mid-air collision.

[Ithoriel]

Vicious creatures though, tear you open with their claws, and utterly wreck an airliner in a mid-air collision.

...and hide in the rushes and jump out and break your arm with a sweep of their wing .... wait ... umm .... I may have the wrong bird there .... that's pigeons, isn't it.

[mmcv]

Ostrich and kangaroo aren't bad. Kangaroo is very lean and reminded me a little of venison. Ostrich is a redder meat than I'd have thought, more duck than chicken.

Only downside is their ideal farming area is on the other side of the globe, so the impact of shipping etc may well offset any benefits.

As burgers you'll not notice much difference for a lot of meats, and insect burgers from mealworm and the like will likely become more widespread too.

I think there is a lot to be said for appreciation of eating higher quality meats in lower quantity, rather than the overconsumption of cheap, poorly treated and highly processed meats.

[Westmarcher]

If you ever order crocodile, and you're in a hurry, tell them to make it snappy.

[FierceKitty]

I've frequently eaten ostrich, and consider it better than beef (a bit more tender and gamey). A recent attempt at crocodile was disappointing, however; short of flavour, and innumerable little bony bits. There wasn't even an alarm clock inside it.