Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview

Started by clibinarium, 21 August 2021, 01:50:46 PM

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clibinarium

Cheers everyone.
I am pleased with these, but I got a little bit carried away doing them. Most likely as I've been working on lots of 15mm Renaissance stuff in the last year. I thought I'd get them knocked out in a couple of days but it ended up taking almost a week.
Hussars are quite intricate at the best of times, and I might have made these a little over-detailed for 10mm. It's hard for me to know since I almost never paint figures these days.

John Cook

They are impressive but I wouldn't know where to start with the LoA.

fred.

Quote from: clibinarium on 22 August 2021, 01:29:07 PM
Hussars are quite intricate at the best of times, and I might have made these a little over-detailed for 10mm. It's hard for me to know since I almost never paint figures these days.

I don't know if that is good or bad news! The other LoA figure are pretty detailed - they look great when painted up, but do need time to do them justice.

Quote from: John Cook on 22 August 2021, 03:03:19 PM
They are impressive but I wouldn't know where to start with the LoA.

The Battle of the Boyne is a pretty good starting place for the LoA period - if a rather Anglo centric one.
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Very nice, I don't know if you can keep them in historical scenarios though, I can see them sneaking into Fantasy as Kislev, etc. My poor groaning wishlist will take another hit when they're released  :).

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John Cook

Quote from: fred. on 22 August 2021, 03:11:20 PM
The Battle of the Boyne is a pretty good starting place for the LoA period - if a rather Anglo centric one.

I thought about it but the Jacobites seem such poor quality that it would hardly be a fair fight.  The real problem is investing in all the research into a period I know next to nothing about, although I see there are some interesting looking books in the Century of the Soldier series.  Still I'm fully committed to a Peninsular War project at the moment.

toxicpixie

Helions books are nice! I'd suggest Piedmont rather than the Boyne. Loads of different troops and some good actions that are very "gameable" ;)
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Just to add my own adoration to these splendid figures. 
Sorry I'm so late but I have been lying down in a dark room until the urge to start a new period went away ......

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Quote from: DecemDave on 23 August 2021, 08:10:44 AM
Just to add my own adoration to these splendid figures. 
Sorry I'm so late but I have been lying down in a dark room until the urge to start a new period went away ......

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23 August 2021, 10:44:21 PM #24 Last Edit: 23 August 2021, 10:46:08 PM by DHautpol
Quote from: John Cook on 22 August 2021, 03:03:19 PM
They are impressive but I wouldn't know where to start with the LoA.

I would recommend Barry Hilton's "Every Bullet has its Billet" in the Helion series to give a nice overview of the period, there was quite a lot going on but it tends to get overlooked in favour of Marlborough.

Barry also has some suggestions for how to build and organise your armies in his "Beneath the Lily Banners" rules; basically paint a brigade of foot, then a brigade of horse, then more foot followed by some guns etc.

As for the hussars, then to employ an oft overused expression, OMG.
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John Cook

Quote from: DHautpol on 23 August 2021, 10:44:21 PM
I would recommend Barry Hilton's "Every Bullet has its Billet" in the Helion series to give a nice overview of the period, there was quite a lot going on but it tends to get overlooked in favour of Marlborough.

Thanks for that.  I will give it some thought in the context of a future project.  I like to identify a particular battle for my projects, one for which there is a comprehensive OB.  Then there is organisations, units and formations, and tactics to research and understand, not to mention uniforms.  The LoA is one of those periods which for me is a blank blank canvas.  The sculpts are stunning though, I must confess. 

Dannyboy

24 August 2021, 12:37:42 PM #27 Last Edit: 24 August 2021, 01:59:58 PM by Dannyboy
These are simply stunning, beautiful sculpts full of energy. Can anybody throw some light on when and who used these characters during the LoA period. New to the period and wondering if they would be suitable in any way alongside a Polish Commonwealth/ Saxon force?

Please, please consider a revamp of the GNW Swedes and Russians to this standard, plus could we have Polish Winged Hussars and especially the Pancerni to a similar sublime level of multi pose excellence ?

Appreciate this is a personal plea, but would there be support for a Kickstarter further down the line, appreciate the commitment to Napoleonics at the moment. But hey that would give me a chance to do the Saxons.

clibinarium

These men were pretty much the national cavalry of Hungary, and so were employed in Imperial armies. They impressed the French enough to form their own hussar regiments from Hungarian renegades.
An important aspect often overlooked is that during the WSS Francis Rákóczi lead a rebellion in Hungary to throw off the Austrian's rule, and his cavalry were basically these hussars (and the infantry wore a similar dress). This caused the Imperials a large headache when they were trying to prosecute the war against France. One of the consequences of Blenheim was that the French and Bavarians were prevented from linking up with Rákóczi's forces.
I think you could also use them for the later half of the 17th century as Hungarians, or other eastern light cavalry depending on how fussy you are, or indeed as Kislevites etc.

Dannyboy

24 August 2021, 01:28:47 PM #29 Last Edit: 24 August 2021, 02:00:36 PM by Dannyboy
They're simply too nice not to use, at the very least I will be generally sprinkling them through the Cossack/ Wallachian light horse as slightly more affluent types   ;) post looting and rampage. The command pack are a must have.  :D