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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Quote from: Techno II on 09 May 2021, 01:15:43 PM
Though the Welsh members of the forum tend not to use such a complete, random,
freeform bastardisation of the language and spelling that some here utilise.....especially as those members are allegedly English.

Gimme fringing strength.  X_X  :'(

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Least I put vowles in ! And stop gettin at moi cus I canna type
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Ithoriel

Is being burned to death intrinsically worse than dying slowly because your stomach has been sliced open by a gladius or drowning in your own blood because a musketball has shattered your shoulder and driven fragments of bone into your lungs?

Let's face it, death in battle is likely to be unpleasant in most eras, whatever the cause of death.

On a more positive note, advances in surgery and medicine mean people are more likely to survive wounds that would have been fatal in times gone by.
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Pysclogically yes. All animals are scared of fire (see Phil I can be serious)
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I recall reading somewhere that in WW2 flamethower operators were less likely to be taken prisoner as they were so hated by the enemy that they would be shot rather than allowed to surrender.
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A DVD documentary that I watched recently about the SS in Normandy told of a Churchill Crocodile crew being summarily shot after capture.
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Back to napalm, the RAF carried it in inventory for a very long time; they tended to practise with it off in other peoples countries where it could go unnoticed.

They used it to help burn out the Torrey Canyon supertanker which was on its way to Phils when it had an unfortunate navigational moment.
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Quote from: toxicpixie on 10 May 2021, 01:12:50 AM
Back to napalm, the RAF carried it in inventory for a very long time; they tended to practise with it off in other peoples countries where it could go unnoticed.

They used it to help burn out the Torrey Canyon supertanker which was on its way to Phils when it had an unfortunate navigational moment.
Oh Lord... I 'sort of' remember that but I was a small kid! Did she qualify as a 'Supertanker'... or 'just' Big tanker? All that ordnance used...and little 'real' effect. Don't think it was tried again... from what I can recollect.
Makes you wonder what 'the Seas' were like during WW2... esp. the Med?  :o

Hmm. As an ex 'Environmental Studies' student, (Not a good one!), just wonder if WW2 shows up much on such things as 'Peat Cores' , 'Ice Cores' or 'Tree Rings'? Damn... wish I'd thought of that  when looking for a dissertation project... a Long time ago!  ;D  Not my bag, now.  :(
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10 May 2021, 05:10:52 AM #23 Last Edit: 10 May 2021, 05:26:06 AM by FierceKitty
Quote from: Techno II on 09 May 2021, 01:15:43 PM
Though the Welsh members of the forum tend not to use such a complete, random,
freeform bastardisation of the language and spelling that some here utilise.....especially as those members are allegedly English.

Gimme fringing strength.  X_X  :'(
In despair - Phil.

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toxicpixie

Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 10 May 2021, 04:54:59 AM
Oh Lord... I 'sort of' remember that but I was a small kid! Did she qualify as a 'Supertanker'... or 'just' Big tanker? All that ordnance used...and little 'real' effect. Don't think it was tried again... from what I can recollect.
Makes you wonder what 'the Seas' were like during WW2... esp. the Med?  :o

Hmm. As an ex 'Environmental Studies' student, (Not a good one!), just wonder if WW2 shows up much on such things as 'Peat Cores' , 'Ice Cores' or 'Tree Rings'? Damn... wish I'd thought of that  when looking for a dissertation project... a Long time ago!  ;D  Not my bag, now.  :(

She was big, I always assumed supertanker big but it's not something I ever looked at in detail! Biggest spill to date then and an equally big environmental disaster :(

Don't know about tree rings etc for WW2, interesting thought. Someone must have studied it?! I know there's an apocryphal story about steel quality decline due to the radiation uptick but I've seen any actual evidence for that :)
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Quote from: toxicpixie on 10 May 2021, 07:01:02 AM
She was big, I always assumed supertanker big but it's not something I ever looked at in detail! Biggest spill to date then and an equally big environmental disaster :(

Don't know about tree rings etc for WW2, interesting thought. Someone must have studied it?! I know there's an apocryphal story about steel quality decline due to the radiation uptick but I've seen any actual evidence for that :)

The steel thing is very specialised.
A few scientific instruments (MRI scanners from memory) benefit from low radiation steel.
Raised background levels after the WW2 tests - but moreso the various cold war tests mean we can no longer make stuff as low as prewar cast steel.

This may have a lot to do with the recent stripping of warship wrecks in the Java Sea.


paulr

The un-salvaged bits of the scuttled High Seas fleet in Scapa Flow was another valuable source of pre-testing steel, some of it was used by NASA

Apparently the steel making process uses so much air that the background radiation is 'concentrated' to some extent
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Torrey Canyon was a supertanker in her day - about the same size as an Atlantic class container ship. Mid to small today.
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Quote from: paulr on 10 May 2021, 07:25:16 AM
The un-salvaged bits of the scuttled High Seas fleet in Scapa Flow was another valuable source of pre-testing steel, some of it was used by NASA

Apparently the steel making process uses so much air that the background radiation is 'concentrated' to some extent

See that's about all I know as it's been mentioned anecdotally - I should probably have just looked properly and read about it :D
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Quote from: toxicpixie on 10 May 2021, 09:54:00 AM
See that's about all I know as it's been mentioned anecdotally - I should probably have just looked properly and read about it :D
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