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[Heedless Horseman]

A DVD documentary that I watched recently about the SS in Normandy told of a Churchill Crocodile crew being summarily shot after capture.

[toxicpixie]

Back to napalm, the RAF carried it in inventory for a very long time; they tended to practise with it off in other peoples countries where it could go unnoticed.

They used it to help burn out the Torrey Canyon supertanker which was on its way to Phils when it had an unfortunate navigational moment.

[Heedless Horseman]

Back to napalm, the RAF carried it in inventory for a very long time; they tended to practise with it off in other peoples countries where it could go unnoticed.

They used it to help burn out the Torrey Canyon supertanker which was on its way to Phils when it had an unfortunate navigational moment.

Oh Lord... I 'sort of' remember that but I was a small kid! Did she qualify as a 'Supertanker'... or 'just' Big tanker? All that ordnance used...and little 'real' effect. Don't think it was tried again... from what I can recollect.
Makes you wonder what 'the Seas' were like during WW2... esp. the Med? 

Hmm. As an ex 'Environmental Studies' student, (Not a good one!), just wonder if WW2 shows up much on such things as 'Peat Cores' , 'Ice Cores' or 'Tree Rings'? Damn... wish I'd thought of that  when looking for a dissertation project... a Long time ago!    Not my bag, now. 

[FierceKitty]

Though the Welsh members of the forum tend not to use such a complete, random,
freeform bastardisation of the language and spelling that some here utilise.....especially as those members are allegedly English.

Gimme fringing strength.    
In despair - Phil.

Wel meddai, y dyn yna! Rhaid i rywun achub yr iaith Saesneg rhag y Sais!

[toxicpixie]

Oh Lord... I 'sort of' remember that but I was a small kid! Did she qualify as a 'Supertanker'... or 'just' Big tanker? All that ordnance used...and little 'real' effect. Don't think it was tried again... from what I can recollect.
Makes you wonder what 'the Seas' were like during WW2... esp. the Med? 

Hmm. As an ex 'Environmental Studies' student, (Not a good one!), just wonder if WW2 shows up much on such things as 'Peat Cores' , 'Ice Cores' or 'Tree Rings'? Damn... wish I'd thought of that  when looking for a dissertation project... a Long time ago!    Not my bag, now. 

She was big, I always assumed supertanker big but it's not something I ever looked at in detail! Biggest spill to date then and an equally big environmental disaster

Don't know about tree rings etc for WW2, interesting thought. Someone must have studied it?! I know there's an apocryphal story about steel quality decline due to the radiation uptick but I've seen any actual evidence for that

[steve_holmes_11]

She was big, I always assumed supertanker big but it's not something I ever looked at in detail! Biggest spill to date then and an equally big environmental disaster

Don't know about tree rings etc for WW2, interesting thought. Someone must have studied it?! I know there's an apocryphal story about steel quality decline due to the radiation uptick but I've seen any actual evidence for that

The steel thing is very specialised.
A few scientific instruments (MRI scanners from memory) benefit from low radiation steel.
Raised background levels after the WW2 tests - but moreso the various cold war tests mean we can no longer make stuff as low as prewar cast steel.

This may have a lot to do with the recent stripping of warship wrecks in the Java Sea.

[paulr]

The un-salvaged bits of the scuttled High Seas fleet in Scapa Flow was another valuable source of pre-testing steel, some of it was used by NASA

Apparently the steel making process uses so much air that the background radiation is 'concentrated' to some extent

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Torrey Canyon was a supertanker in her day - about the same size as an Atlantic class container ship. Mid to small today.

[toxicpixie]

The un-salvaged bits of the scuttled High Seas fleet in Scapa Flow was another valuable source of pre-testing steel, some of it was used by NASA

Apparently the steel making process uses so much air that the background radiation is 'concentrated' to some extent

See that's about all I know as it's been mentioned anecdotally - I should probably have just looked properly and read about it

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

See that's about all I know as it's been mentioned anecdotally - I should probably have just looked properly and read about it

Well there is a 1st time for everything !

[sultanbev]

Hmm. As an ex 'Environmental Studies' student, (Not a good one!), just wonder if WW2 shows up much on such things as 'Peat Cores' , 'Ice Cores' or 'Tree Rings'? Damn... wish I'd thought of that  when looking for a dissertation project... a Long time ago!    Not my bag, now. 

I recently found there was a world wide drought in 1947, after a freezing 1946 winter, where harvests other than in America fell by as much as half. The US was able to step up and send the world surplus grain and fertiliser (and extend it's hegemony). For students of climate change WW2 showed the perils of giving people unlimited energy to burn....
Bizzarely, the most detailed account is in a US Coast Guard Appropriation Bill of 1947!:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tn00AAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA62&lpg=RA1-PA62&dq=1947+harvest+failure&source=bl&ots=4lIJyJje3n&sig=ACfU3U0ElK3D29JdPvH9b2fxnyG0yZcjeg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_4euN877wAhUymVwKHRvkCcQQ6AEwEXoECA4QAw

[toxicpixie]

  Well there is a 1st time for everything !

But where's the fun in that!

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

It's well known I have NO sense of humour 

[toxicpixie]

It's well known I have NO sense of humour 

And I repeat, where's the fun in that?!



At least the High Seas Fleet turned out to be useful for something after all, I guess.