Question about doctrines and unit cost.

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Big Insect

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 01 June 2021, 03:03:41 PM
If one combined:

Advanced Technology
High Strength Infantry
Guerilla Doctrine  from BKC iv
Adaptive camouflage

One might get torwards a reasonable depiction of the evil sods.

Absolutely + HVP ranged weapons - nasty
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flamingpig0

Quote from: Big Insect on 01 June 2021, 03:09:24 PM
Absolutely + HVP ranged weapons - nasty

Hurrah!
Alll we need now  for the forthcoming Pendraken 10mm scifi range to provide suitable figures

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Ithoriel

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 01 June 2021, 03:17:08 PM
Hurrah!
Alll we need now  for the forthcoming Pendraken 10mm scifi range to provide suitable figures

SFX4 Alien predators (10)

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Raider4

So, Kar'Vak are not-Predators? Huh, I would never have guessed that.

Hard to imagine an army of such things - always struck me as working individually ("Predator") or in small groups (of three? "Alien vs. Predator" and "Predators").

Big Insect

Quote from: Raider4 on 04 June 2021, 07:13:45 AM
So, Kar'Vak are not-Predators? Huh, I would never have guessed that.
Hard to imagine an army of such things - always struck me as working individually ("Predator") or in small groups (of three? "Alien vs. Predator" and "Predators").

Kra'Vaks are a GZG range of 6mm/15mm sci-fi figures/vehicles - the list is one of the older ones in the FWC army list book. But could do with an update IMHO.
And yes - Kra'Vak are supposed to represent Predators - just as GZG 'crustys' represent District 9 'prawns' as a way to circumvent potential copywrite issues  ;)

As to an army of Predators - they do operate as hunting parties - as we see in the 2nd film in the series (ingeniously titled Predator-2!) and again in one of the later films (I think it is Aliens v Predator) we see a 'Predator' city on their home-world - so they do appear to live in communities and so might be expected to take joint action together - either defensively or aggressively.
In Predator-2 there also appears to be a command structure or hierarchy amongst the 'hunting party'.

The FWC list is focused on grav tech and 'rail-gun' tech (High Impact Weaponry) - the latter I think is an incorrect depiction of their shoulder guns - which are much more like an HVP weapon than HIW (IMHO) but it needs Stealth and/or Adaptive Camo adding (which is the way that I play them).
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Ithoriel

I'd always assumed the Predators in the initial movies were young adults sent to planets to take on "dangerous animals" - like armed humans - to prove their worth. In the same way that some human tribes sent young men off to hunt lions or bears to prove their prowess.

The larger groups in the later movies seem to be on training missions, presumably to hone skills and raise rep?

I have no problem imagining armies of them. I would expect units to be tribal.
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flamingpig0

Quote from: Ithoriel on 01 June 2021, 04:51:07 PM
SFX4 Alien predators (10)



Brill- but even for a small army we need more than one pose
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Raider4

For UK-based viewers, "The Predator", the latest (last?) film in the series is on Channel 4 at 21:00 this evening.

Not seen this yet - the reviews were not good, ISTR - but will settle down and try & enjoy it this evening. Directed by Shane Black, who played the nerdy one in the original film.

The only other one in the series I've not seen is the second AvP film, which is terrible from what I've heard.

fsn

I really wouldn't bother.

It is an excrescence in the annals of cinema. Nearly as bad as the Taron Egerton "Robin Hood", or Disney "Star Wars" ... or the 2nd series of "Batwoman".
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I probably bought the DVD.....years ago.

If that's the one I'm thinking of.....The latter stuff was mostly a complete pile of poop.

Cheers - Phil :(

flamingpig0

Quote from: Raider4 on 05 June 2021, 12:17:38 PM
For UK-based viewers, "The Predator", the latest (last?) film in the series is on Channel 4 at 21:00 this evening.



Horrid beyond belief
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Raider4

Oh dear, that was just terrible. Easily the worst of the four films.

fsn

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DecemDave

Well I liked it!     But then I stuck with 1/72 plastics for decades while others went for those new fangled metal thingies.

Just wait till those killer mutant tardigrades land.  Then we'll have real problems.  :d :d :d

PS

I wish they would stop beaming out radio signals that we are here.  Any species with the technology to reach us could wipe us out unless they pick up this film transmission and believe its a documentary.


flamingpig0

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I wish they would stop beaming out radio signals that we are here.  Any species with the technology to reach us could wipe us out unless they pick up this film transmission and believe its a documentary.


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I am  more worried abou them seeing  the 'talent' shows
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Big Insect

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 06 June 2021, 01:18:44 PM

I am  more worried about them seeing  the 'talent' shows


I think that these are actually a defensive measure - like The Voice or The Masked Singer or The Wall, or all those 'Bake-off' looki-likey show (please save us all from Glow-Up!!!).
Any alien invaders would just think we were some sort of socially retarded misfit species* and stay well clear, in case it was contagious.

(*that is probably closer to the truth than we'd like to think)

** I better watch what I a typing here or my potential career in 1st class test cricket might hit the rocks in 10 years time  :-X
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Quote from: Big Insect on 07 June 2021, 02:16:42 PM
** I better watch what I a typing here or my potential career in 1st class test cricket might hit the rocks in 10 years time  :-X

I rather suspect that any potential cricket career is long gone Mark
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flamingpig0

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 07 June 2021, 02:42:25 PM
I rather suspect that any potential cricket career is long gone Mark

Depends how soon we develop cyber enhancements- Mark could potentially have a long career as a champion cyborg cricketer
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Big Insect

I can think of no worse punishment!

But actually I can ...

Being forced to watch most forms of ITV or BBC TV shows on an hour by hour basis - I can almost feel my brain cells dying as I think that thought!
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