2021 Deaths.

[Orcs]

I'd say it was fortunate. I'd certainly prefer not to go on alone uner the circumstances!

I agree.

[flamingpig0]

When the pub chat turns to "Have you ever met a royal" - that's a winner.

I have met Phil Barker he is wargame royalty

[flamingpig0]

Apparently there are plans to spend 190 million on a commemorative Royal Yacht to be named HMS Mountbatten

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

That would be fine so long as they let the Cammel Laird it !

Met Barker many times, even did a display game with him at Northern Militaire many ,many years ago.

[flamingpig0]

Met Barker many times, even did a display game with him at Northern Militaire many ,many years ago.

Years a go when I was a civil servant and they refused to give me any work I used to ring him up for the fun of it- I remember him telling that my Achaemenid Persians were obsolete !! Oh, and had a very surreal conversation on how Eskimo descended female scouts in the modern US army should count as fanatics in WRG modern rules terms.


( note: I am fully aware I am confirming people's prejudices all I can say that  I understand that my non-job was not typical of the civil service)

[hammurabi70]

Apparently there are plans to spend 190 million on a commemorative Royal Yacht to be named HMS Mountbatten

I thought the name was suggested as HMY Duke of Edinburgh.

I agree it should be built in the UK; every time I contact my MP I mention building hospital ships using DFID funds - https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-british-hospital-ships-proposed/

Perhaps one might be named Duke of Edinburgh.

[Raider4]

Shirley Williams, ex-Labour minister and founder of the SDP (remember them?). Aged 90.

[flamingpig0]

Good innings though......doubt I'll last that long !

But we are all cheering that you do

[jimduncanuk]

I thought the name was suggested as HMY Duke of Edinburgh.

I agree it should be built in the UK; every time I contact my MP I mention building hospital ships using DFID funds - https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-british-hospital-ships-proposed/

Perhaps one might be named Duke of Edinburgh.

HMS Britannia was supposedly to be used as a hospital ship in times of need but she never had the facilities she would need as well as enough cruising range to get anywhere useful.

[flamingpig0]

I thought the name was suggested as HMY Duke of Edinburgh.

What ever it is called they must lend it to Andy for weekends

[flamingpig0]

HMS Britannia was supposedly to be used as a hospital ship in times of need but she never had the facilities she would need as well as enough cruising range to get anywhere useful.

So basically a lie?

[Big Insect]

'The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.'
Joseph Stalin

Misquote by Stalin actually - it was Lenin who originally said "the death of one man is a tragedy. The death of 20 thousand is a statistic" ... Stalin just adopted it as an objective 

[Steve J]

A good innings for Shirley Williams and she always seemed a very principled politician.

[Heedless Horseman]

So basically a lie?

No. Remember that 'Hospital' ships in the 50's were basically 'transports' and not 'Surgical Hospitals' as we would think of them... but available for 'basic care' if needed. It WAS, however, a 'Yacht' for 'showing the Flag'. I have a short clip of home movie on Video, of an occasion when Britannia entered the Tyne, sometime in the 60s... escorted by a frigate! THAT couldn't happen now! lol!

As for that 'THING' that 'sailed' up the Thames for a Jubilee celebration a few years back... now THAT DOES make me shudder! At least Britannia 'looked the part' and could travel the globe when we had facilities for such jaunts.
According to Wiki, she did once participate in embarking civilian refugees from Aden. I HAD thought that she was part of the Falklands Task Force... but must have got that wrong, as such is not mentioned.

When you compare Britannia to what the 'super rich' have now... not a bad 'old tub'!

[Raider4]

I HAD thought that she was part of the Falklands Task Force... but must have got that wrong, as such is not mentioned.

Britannia used different fuel to everything else, adding to the logistical complexity, I seem to remember.