Figures for UK Dark Ages armies.

Started by GridGame, 07 September 2020, 09:21:45 AM

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GridGame

I am trying to create armies potentially involved in UK conflicts 900 – 1000 AD: Anglo-Saxon / Anglo-Danish, Norman, Pre Feudal Scottish, Viking, Welsh, Norse-Irish.
The Dark Ages ranges are short of some figures and I have been looking at other ranges for potential candidates.

For PF Scottish ARL 6 unarmoured with a mix of weapons for a 'warband' (Galwegians)? and ELM 19 Gallowglass?

For Norse-Irish ELM 12 Irish Bonnachts?, ELM 13 Irish Kerns? and ELM 19 Gallowglass?

For Welsh - ELM8 Welsh spearmen? Cavalry ?

Also there are various figures in the Late Roman which could be used? ARL 10 & 16 militia, ARL 12 unarmoured cavalry, ARL 18 Arthurian figures.

Comments & recommendations please.

Thanks Andrew

mmcv

I've used ELM19 in my Crusader heavy infantry and would use the Irish and Welsh units for lighter troops too so that would work well.

The Elizabethan range also has some Gallowglass and kerns for variety.

The TB Line may be worth a look, most of them are later period medieval but some of the peasants may work for you.

Late Roman is a good one for Romano-British.

FierceKitty

There are those who say the UK didn't exist during the Dark Ages...unless you mean the Thatcher years?
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sultanbev

Initially I thought the post was for 2026-2040 armies for the upcoming New Dark Ages....  8)

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Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 September 2020, 10:00:43 AM
There are those who say the UK didn't exist during the Dark Ages...unless you mean the Thatcher years?

Ok say The Anglo Irish Archipeligo - just for the pedantic birthday Kitty.
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For heavy scots cavalry, I used Later Roman cavalry, mix of armour and unarmoured.
Norman's mixed up work well for elite horse.
Viking and Saxon heavy foot for front ranks of Scots and Irish, as well as their own armies...
Naked gallic foot for galowglas.
Saxon militia in the Late Roman Range also bulk out units nicely too.
Pict range is excellent - I had them made... ;)
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Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 September 2020, 10:00:43 AM
There are those who say the UK didn't exist during the Dark Ages...unless you mean the Thatcher years?

I think GridGame means British Isles.
I try not to get too pedantic these days since there are so many permutations.

Pro Tip: Centenary of UK's current borders coming up next year.

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Sunray

14 September 2020, 09:08:21 PM #8 Last Edit: 14 September 2020, 09:14:26 PM by Sunray
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 07 September 2020, 09:19:49 PM
I think GridGame means British Isles.
I try not to get too pedantic these days since there are so many permutations.

Pro Tip: Centenary of UK's current borders coming up next year.

Quite right. There were two islands inhabited by Ancient Britons (language was P or Q Celtic) 1.  The smaller  island (Britain) what we now call Ireland and the bigger or greater island was .....Great Britain.  :)

This lecture always confused my American exchange students.

Copplestone castings do a nice range of 10mm Horse Tribe Infantry which pass muster for Anglo/Saxons - 36 figures for £5.75- if you ever want to stretch the period?

1.  P Celtic is today's Welsh , Q Celtic is gaelic.  

Ithoriel

Quote from: Sunray on 14 September 2020, 09:08:21 PM
Copplestone castings do a nice range of 10mm Horse Tribe Infantry which pass muster for Anglo/Saxons - 36 figures for £5.75- if you ever want to stretch the period?


They also make excellent Goths  - the Germanic tribe rather than the dark clothes and depressed demeanour type :)
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FierceKitty

I think we should write a massed petition to Copplestone asking for more 10mm.
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Sunray

Quote from: FierceKitty on 15 September 2020, 01:23:31 AM
I think we should write a massed petition to Copplestone asking for more 10mm.

Unlike Pendraken they don't run a forum with requests.  :)

Raider4

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 07 September 2020, 09:19:49 PM
I think GridGame means British Isles.
I try not to get too pedantic these days since there are so many permutations.

Pro Tip: Centenary of UK's current borders coming up next year.

I also try not to get too pedantic, but I do get mildly irritated when "Anglo" is used to mean the UK. e.g. Concorde was an Anglo-French project.

The use of "Team GB" at the Olympics is also an anomaly. Do the Northern Irish athletes not count then?

Raider4

Quote from: FierceKitty on 15 September 2020, 01:23:31 AM
I think we should write a massed petition to Copplestone asking for more 10mm.

Copplestone look like excellent figures, but not seen any in the flesh. Think he designed these to go with the Battle of Five Armies game that GW (briefly) released?

Sunray

Quote from: Raider4 on 15 September 2020, 11:32:54 AM
Copplestone look like excellent figures, but not seen any in the flesh. Think he designed these to go with the Battle of Five Armies game that GW (briefly) released?

That's interesting.  They are neat sculpts as you would expect. I discovered them when enticed by The Last Kingdom and recerating the shield wall.
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I use a handful as medievals and a few Alans. They're painfully few, but lovely sculpts that go well with Pendrakens too.
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fred.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 15 September 2020, 01:23:31 AM
I think we should write a massed petition to Copplestone asking for more 10mm.

This has been asked on LAF. It seems very unlikely. Which is a shame as they are some great figures.

I don't think the Copplestone figures are designed to go with the BoFA game. The BoFA figures are pretty small - the copplestone ones are fairly typical 10mm size.
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Raider4

Quote from: fred. on 15 September 2020, 05:26:57 PM
I don't think the Copplestone figures are designed to go with the BoFA game.

Hmmm . . . You don't think the Horse Tribe figures are Rohan? The City humans are Gondor? Does the makeup of the Heroes & Halflings pack remind you of any particular expedition rather famous in the fantasy genre?


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fred.

Yes, the figures are clearly for Lord of the Rings gaming. I just don't think they are particularly to go with the GW BoFA game.
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Right.  I hereby give warning that I am going to break Forum protocol in terms of hijacking a thread. 

But only in a "very specific and limited way", as is now the practice in our Mother of Parliaments, so it must be OK?

I was surfing the Copplestone site, and clicked on the "Future wars range" .  Loved the civilians and the military sub ranges.

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Would there be demand for a small range of late 21st century style figures that would be of the Future wars genre, and compliment the Zombie range?
Sweet work by Techno!  His sculpts are good enough to depict character figures in 10mm.