Figures for UK Dark Ages armies.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

You just broke thew major rule - ypu were nice to Phil !

[Sunray]

You just broke thew major rule - ypu were nice to Phil !

[Techno]

You just broke thew major rule - ypu were nice to Phil !

'Bout time someone was.

Cheers - Phil 

[FierceKitty]

Well, bribe us with some T'ang....

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

'Bout time someone was.

Cheers - Phil 

You have a bias here Lewis 

[Techno]

You have a bias here Lewis 

Who me ?......Damn sauce ! 

'Ere......What 'age' are Goths/Visigoths ?

I made some of those about three years ago.....
Leon could have those.....But three figures aren't going to make a range.

I made a whole load of figures for firm 'X'...which I got paid for...then made the mistake of making a lot of others, which I knew were 'in the pipeline', to get in front of myself.

They'll be sitting gathering dust forever now.

Cheers - Phil (Hey, Ho  )

[Ithoriel]

The Goths were enemies of the Later Roman Empire from the last quarter of the 4th century CE to around the middle of the 5th. They are broadly split in two sub-parts, the Ostrogoths (East Goths) and Visigoths (West Goths). The Visigoths wound up ruling Spain until displaced by the Arab conquest.

Ostrogoth armies tended to be cavalry with spears/ lances/ javelins and infantry archers while Visigoth armies tend to have spear armed foot. both would have units of noble cavalry.

[Sunray]

Right.  I hereby give warning that I am going to break Forum protocol in terms of hijacking a thread. 

But only in a "very specific and limited way", as is now the practice in our Mother of Parliaments, so it must be OK?

I was surfing the Copplestone site, and clicked on the "Future wars range" .  Loved the civilians and the military sub ranges.

Some years ago - on the recommendation of Grumpy Old Man (Victor to his friends), I purchased the Drop Zone Commander Ruinscape.  Its an instant coffee urban highrise landscape.  Lots of fun from Stalingrad via Budapest to Third World Capitals.  Not to mention Si-Fi

Would there be demand for a small range of late 21st century style figures that would be of the Future wars genre, and compliment the Zombie range?
Sweet work by Techno!  His sculpts are good enough to depict character figures in 10mm.

I don't believe it!!!  My hi-jack was.......hi-jacked !!  

[paulr]

Right.  I hereby give warning that I am going to break Forum protocol in terms of hijacking a thread. 

I thought hijacking a thread was the rule

[Sunray]

I thought hijacking a thread was the rule

+1 

[FierceKitty]

Who me ?......Damn sauce ! 

'Ere......What 'age' are Goths/Visigoths ?

I made some of those about three years ago.....
Leon could have those.....But three figures aren't going to make a range.

I made a whole load of figures for firm 'X'...which I got paid for...then made the mistake of making a lot of others, which I knew were 'in the pipeline', to get in front of myself.

They'll be sitting gathering dust forever now.

Cheers - Phil (Hey, Ho  )

Some of the Picts do well as Goths too, and Magister Militum also have some. A Gothic army is easy to assemble; they make up about a third of my Huns, and a fair whack of my late Romans as well.

[Techno]

I thought hijacking a thread was the rule

I wonder how many threads of three or four pages (or more) haven't gone off at a tangent, at least once !

Cheers - Phil

[Ithoriel]

I wonder how many threads of three or four posts (or more) haven't gone off at a tangent, at least once !

Cheers - Phil

FIFY

[steve_holmes_11]

I knew some reenactors who insisted that the warriors of each nation looked essentially the same.
The whole "Vikings with eyeglass helmets and Normans with noseguards" was down to different centuries of helmet tech - they said.
It certainly fits with the Sutton Hoo dig being "Saxon".

A couple of points to expand on this.

The Warriors may have looked similar, this doesn't apply for the levies who would complete the shieldwall and supply skirmishers.

In the event of a raid (Much more common than an all-out war) the attackers would be mainly warriors, and only the home-team would have their levies and skirmishers in significant numbers.

[Ithoriel]

I knew some reenactors who insisted that the warriors of each nation looked essentially the same.
The whole "Vikings with eyeglass helmets and Normans with noseguards" was down to different centuries of helmet tech - they said.
It certainly fits with the Sutton Hoo dig being "Saxon".

A couple of points to expand on this.

The Warriors may have looked similar, this doesn't apply for the levies who would complete the shieldwall and supply skirmishers.

In the event of a raid (Much more common than an all-out war) the attackers would be mainly warriors, and only the home-team would have their levies and skirmishers in significant numbers.

The home team is likely to be the local lord with his hearthguard and a lot of local levies facing a smaller but but better armed and trained band of thugs warriors.

The Sutton Hoo helmet is more Late Roman than anything else.

I suspect the reason many "sword and board" historical dramas on TV and film have so much fantasy armour is because the film makers took one look at the historical outfits and went,"how will the audience know who is who?"

[Sunray]

Movie/TV potrayal is a hostage of budget/props.  Its not just a sword & board dilemma.

How many WW2 movies starred the M3 Americam Halftrack as German?  Patton tanks proxied for Tigers in the Battle of the Bulge,  A US Warship for Graf Spee etc.

Bridge too far has a modern German Leopard I proxy for a Panther. 


Only as museums and re-enactment groups invested in more engine restoration did we get treated to real "runners". 

With the end of communism we got modern version of the Sd Kfz 251 - the OT810 which was often restored to the WW2 version.