Looking for an armoured elephant - NOT elefant!

[Bren]

Hello Bren

Jumping to another topic entirely - oh look a butterfly - did you see that Warmonger are getting 3d models done for printed masters (I think Clibinarius was also talking about trying this) for a Qin army. Be interesting to see how it works out ...

Hi Grumpster,

Yep, I've been keeping an eye on those on the wide, wide world of web. Some of the 3D renders appearing these days are superb; how much of the detail which can be reproduced in casting will be interesting.

Another elephant possibility could be the TB line ones should there be any demand to make them available in the future (where they in the Carthage line?), although I don't recall how well armoured they were.

[FierceKitty]

Another elephant possibility could be the TB line ones should there be any demand to make them available in the future (where they in the Carthage line?), although I don't recall how well armoured they were.

Species?

[Bren]

African, by the look of it. I searched for images and found an original pic on TMP.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Species?

Large African forest.



Waiting to use them for fantasy types 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Must say, Mr Kwang-Min at bottom right seems to be loading a javelin into his crossbow.

It must be remembered that these 3d renders are being shown here at roughly 400% actual size. If you drop the size of the image down things appear more 'wargame normal' and castable:-

[Techno]

Agreed, Vic.

My own view is that they're trying to put too much super-fine detail in the models, which will lost, or, in practical terms, become invisible when it comes to painting them.

Just my two pees worth.

Cheers - Phil

[GrumpyOldMan]

Agreed, Vic.

My own view is that they're trying to put too much super-fine detail in the models, which will lost, or, in practical terms, become invisible when it comes to painting them.

Just my two pees worth.

Cheers - Phil

Hello Phil

I've got to agree with your agreement  .

Yes, you've got to limit what you try to put into a figure that will be eliminated by the mould making/casting. Having super fine lamellar armour in the 3d render is great but if the indentations disappear from the 3d printing, moulds, etc  then that has defeated the purpose. So yes you might end up with chainmail (here kitty, kitty) with fist sized links (necessary exaggeration here)  but you can print mould and cast it so it can be painted and recognisable. Still I'm going to play around with it to see what can be done. There's free software available, Sculptris and Meshmixer and I'll have a look.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[FierceKitty]

Hissssssss....

[Techno]

I'm glad you're agreeing with my agreement, Vic.   

I agree.

With the super fine detail.....even if 'something' was just visible in the impression in the rubber mould....By the time the 'releasing agent' (talcum powder, or equivalent) was slapped on the mould....that'd lose some of the detail....and by the time an undercoat was put on the model......Would there be anything left ?
Apparently the human eye can't see anything smaller than 40 microns.....And some of those 'dents' defining the 'scale armour'...........

Be interesting to see what you can achieve.

(Kitty.....stop scratching the furniture !!......And I nearly typed loose, instead of lose, again...Obviously got a 'blind spot' as far as those words are concerned. )

Cheers - Phil

[FierceKitty]

I'm not scratching the furniture, I'm scratching GOM (or does he count as furniture?).

[GrumpyOldMan]

I'm not scratching the furniture, I'm scratching GOM (or does he count as furniture?).

.....and if we're very careful, we can see here the elusive, migrating Davenport...... No, sorry it's only GOM doing his inimitable impression of furniture again.... 😄😄😄��

[GrumpyOldMan]

I'm glad you're agreeing with my agreement, Vic.   

I agree.

With the super fine detail.....even if 'something' was just visible in the impression in the rubber mould....By the time the 'releasing agent' (talcum powder, or equivalent) was slapped on the mould....that'd lose some of the detail....and by the time an undercoat was put on the model......Would there be anything left ?
Apparently the human eye can't see anything smaller than 40 microns.....And some of those 'dents' defining the 'scale armour'...........

Be interesting to see what you can achieve.

(Kitty.....stop scratching the furniture !!......And I nearly typed loose, instead of lose, again...Obviously got a 'blind spot' as far as those words are concerned. )

Hello

I've had a play around with various software/sites and there are a number of ways that you could come up with a 3d master. A good time waster important site is dektophero3d.com which lets you play around with various bits to come up with a figure and pose that could be 3d printed. I made up a prototype of a Malay/Indonesian in a short time, picture attached.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Cheers - Phil

[Techno]

How tall is that one, Vic ?

Cheers - Phil

[GrumpyOldMan]

How tall is that one, Vic ?

Cheers - Phil

Hello Phil

The beauty of 3d I'd that you can scale it with a few clicks. So it can go from 54mm to 12mm in an instant. If you've got any 3d programs I can send you the downloaded figure to have a look. Just let me know what file format you want. Sculptris is a good free program.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

You do know why he's called Techno...

[Techno]

Thank you, Will !:P

I think it'll be a long time (if ever) before I get to have a go at 3D printing, Vic.

I understand that once you've got 'the gubbins' (stop me if I'm getting too technical) set up....you can make whatever size you want....I was just wondering what size the chap pictured actually is ?

Cheers - Phil

[GrumpyOldMan]

Thank you, Will !:P

I think it'll be a long time (if ever) before I get to have a go at 3D printing, Vic.

I understand that once you've got 'the gubbins' (stop me if I'm getting too technical) set up....you can make whatever size you want....I was just wondering what size the chap pictured actually is ?

Cheers - Phil

Hello

Ah I see now. No I haven't printed anything out yet, still playing with the sculpting/animation software. The picture is of a 3d model that I was playing with. When I come up with something I'm happy with, I'll get somebody commercial with whizz-bang expensive printers that can do fine detail to print and see what it comes out like. The sort of hobby printer I could afford wouldn't have the level of detail/smoothness required.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan