World Cup chat

[Raider4]

VAR is going to bring in a) a lot more penalties, and b) a lot of disallowed goals when it's introduced into the english premier league.

And I agree that the whole process needs to be a lot more streamlined, and the actual paying public in the grounds must be made aware of what is going on.

[lowlylowlycook]

Isn't the goalie supposed to be at a huge disadvantage when the penalty is taken?  :-

Wasn't a(/the?) previous version of Law 14 that the goalie had to remain stationary until the ball was struck?  At least under the current law they can shift their weight in anticipation of the strike - like a tennis player waiting to receive a service.

Indeed, my understanding is that the rule changed to be more permissive for the goalie.  Previously both feet had to be on the line when the ball was struck and now it's just one.  But the original rule was only policed for obvious infractions, if even that.  Also there is a disconnect between the goalie trying to time the kick of the ball and going back frame by frame to see when she moved.  I'd say that the most unfair thing isn't that the goalies have to adapt to this new rule (as called) but that they have change how they play in a very short time during the World Cup.  Wait, no.  That's not it.  It's the yellow card for your feet being inches off the line.

Then again, I wouldn't listen to me, I'd listen to this prophet right here:

Somebody's bound to balloon one up into row Z.

Sam Kerr 

[lowlylowlycook]

My understanding is that England considers a fourth place finish in a World Cup quite the success.

Congratulations!

Since I'm 1/2 Dutch (well Frisian), I can't lose tomorrow. 

[jimduncanuk]

My understanding is that England considers a fourth place finish in a World Cup quite the success.

My understanding is that England were there to improve on their previous best performance i.e. third and that changed to matching their previous best when the yanks beat them and they failed to do that too.

[Techno]

Did anyone else think that VAR got it wrong for the 'handball' for the disallowed England 'goal' ?
Thought it hit the lass on the chest....Not her upper arm.

Cheers

[jimduncanuk]

Did anyone else think that VAR got it wrong for the 'handball' for the disallowed England 'goal' ? :-
Thought it hit the lass on the chest....Not her upper arm.

Cheers

It clearly hit her bust and her arm.

[O Dinas Powys]

Two simple rule changes would solve most of these issues and then VAR could get on with the properly important jobs it does in rugby league and rugby union of looking for foul play and deciding if the ball has crossed the line:

• Get rid off the offside rule: they did it in hockey and after a brief period of adjustment everyone got on fine with it.
  
  
• Revert to a modified version of the 1871 pre-schism rules allowing for the handling of the ball.  
  (Personally I'd be happy if the then extant hacking and tripping rules were also reintroduced, but that's mainly because I have a dark sense of humour  )  
  Rather than go the full hog of allowing outfield players to freely handle/carry/run with the ball, permit players to touch/control the ball with their arms and hands.

Both of these changes would obviously effect the game profoundly, but probably in a less deleterious way than VAR is doing AND the rules would then again be the same at all levels of the sport, which I believe was FIFA's main objection to VAR for years...

Cheers!

Meirion