What parts of the hobby do you enjoy least?

[FierceKitty]

*   opponents who won't read the rules, and then get the sulks when they lose
*   waiting for a parcel of shinies to cover intercontinental distances
*   sleepless nights while a project is on the workbench and I'm too tired to paint any more
*   dice with a three in four probability of rolling a 1 in a crisis
*   trying to understand what my brother-gamers are trying to say in their posts
*   Sengoku games with four samurai, one ashigaru, a geisha, and a cherry tree pretending to be a military force

BUT I'm sure others have their own lists.

[Steve J]

- Painting horses, especially their tack.
- Those die rolls that at critical times in the game when you are in a position to cause pain and misery to your opponents troops, always come up ones.
- Too competitive players that spoil a game.
- Badly written or thought out rulesets that promised oh so much.
- Packing away after a game.

[FierceKitty]

Drat, I forgot packing away.

[fsn]

• Painting horses
• Packing away after a game
• Painting un-uniformed troops. Though to be fair, I've got a bit of a system now
• "Oh you've got Sherman III's/Stovepipe shakos/lorica segmentata but obviously on that Tuesday afternoon it was Sherman V's/Belgic Shakos/lorica hamata"
• Figure ranges that have almost everything you neeeeed. Speaking of which, any chance of a SMG for the Korean British, Leon?
• Stuff on that table that shouldn't be - rule sets, tape measures, coffee cups, that King Tiger. Table tidiness, please.
• Articles in hobby mags that only give "game stats" for particular rule sets.
• Endless hand wringing about base sizes
• *Hobby Horse* Bases with normally unmoving items attached - trees, walls, fences, A9 tanks
• *Hobby Horse* Kneeling and prone figures anytime, but especially pre 1900.
• *Hobby Horse* Light infantry pre 1900 being only available in firing positions

[Leman]

Tbh there's only one 'thing' that ruins the hobby - overly competitive players who seem to imagine that there its an Olympic medal beckoning if they can mangle the rules to their advantage.

[sunjester]

Playing with d***heads.
Having to paint my toys before i can play with them.

To be fair I have an answer to the first one, I don't play those people ever again!

[Norm]

None really, I like it all. I'm not keen on painting kneeling troops ... is that enough to that count? ... Oh and gamey play.

[mollinary]

Answering endless polls on what you like and dislike!     

[FierceKitty]

Answering endless polls on what you like and dislike!     

Good point. What dweeble-brained wally started this one?

[Ben Waterhouse]

Other people...

[Matt J]

Despite owning mountains of models, hours (days, months, years!) of painting, numerous rulesets purchased and read, I have never, ever played an historical wargame...

(makes me a bit sad really  )

[mmcv]

Despite owning mountains of models, hours (days, months, years!) of painting, numerous rulesets purchased and read, I have never, ever played an historical wargame...

(makes me a bit sad really  )

How come?

[Nick the Lemming]

Tbh there's only one 'thing' that ruins the hobby - overly competitive players who seem to imagine that there its an Olympic medal beckoning if they can mangle the rules to their advantage.

I wouldn't say it's the only thing, but it is probably the worst thing.

I'd also add the preponderance of 28mm figures, and the emphasis on skirmish games (because everything is expected to be 28mm).

[Matt J]

[quoteQuote from: Matt J on Today at 11:07:30 AM
Despite owning mountains of models, hours (days, months, years!) of painting, numerous rulesets purchased and read, I have never, ever played an historical wargame...

(makes me a bit sad really  Sad)

How come?][/quote]

Don't know really, it just has never happened, geography doesn't help - living in rural Shropshire, don't think there are any clubs anywhere near, and haven't got it in me to go solo.
Play GW board games with my brother now and again but that about it.
Got boxes of lovely painted stuff that once finished are packed away and have never seen the light of day again.

[Chad]

Rules that are advertised as covering a period that I am interested in that are nothing of the sort and whose designer notes show that they have done insufficient research. 😫😠😡

Rant over. Anyone interested in a set of Field of Glory v2? Never used and never will be

[mmcv]

[quoteQuote from: Matt J on Today at 11:07:30 AM
Despite owning mountains of models, hours (days, months, years!) of painting, numerous rulesets purchased and read, I have never, ever played an historical wargame...

(makes me a bit sad really  Sad)

How come?]

Don't know really, it just has never happened, geography doesn't help - living in rural Shropshire, don't think there are any clubs anywhere near, and haven't got it in me to go solo.
Play GW board games with my brother now and again but that about it.
Got boxes of lovely painted stuff that once finished are packed away and have never seen the light of day again.

That's a shame. I've not had the time or opportunity to check out any local clubs yet, and haven't yet got any friends hooked on it so most of my games are solo. To be honest, it can still be quite fun and based on some of the comments here means you don't have to deal with any unsavoury other players. Unless you're an unsavoury player yourself of course...

But can see how it wouldn't be for everyone. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed playing. I always thought I'd just be interested in painting but have been enjoying the games too and inspires the painting projects to get new units out together to suit the games.

[Techno]

Making archers. 

Cheers - Phil

[Leman]

Despite owning mountains of models, hours (days, months, years!) of painting, numerous rulesets purchased and read, I have never, ever played an historical wargame...

(makes me a bit sad really  )

So actually you've never played a wargame. Presumably you are a fantasy gamer who has arrived on the wrong site. I suppose I should have added that to my very short list. People who refer to fantasy gaming and board games as wargames. When I started wargaming the only people who played with faeries were girls. I shall now return this can of worms to FK.

[Norm]

Despite owning mountains of models, hours (days, months, years!) of painting, numerous rulesets purchased and read, I have never, ever played an historical wargame...

(makes me a bit sad really  )

Matt, That is a great shame, since you have invested in time and painting and actually have stuff to use, I wonder whether it is worth you picking up a copy of Neil Thomas' One Hour Wargames rules. In terms of rules, they are a mixed blessing, but they are short, there are 30 situations (scenarios) described in the book, which are interesting to play, you only need 4 - 6 units per side and you can play in less than a 3' x 3' space with a big stuff and a smaller space with the  smaller scales.

I only mention these because they are so easy to get up on the table, play in less that the 'advertised' hour and putting away is quick and easy. It would get you into gear for throwing dice and moving things in a solo game. The rules are so easy you cannot put a foot wrong, but it may be just the thing to kick start some gaming. Solo gaming is probably much more common than forums / magazines etc might suggest, just play both sides well, the dice will provide the variables. I hope you have a go.

Here is a link to a post I blogged about the rules and an AAR to a game that I played solo, hope it helps. cheers Norm.

LINK
http://battlefieldswarriors.blogspot.com/2015/04/1-hour-wargames-initial-look.html

[Glorfindel]

Definitely, over-competitive players and untidy tables (years of
effort to create a miniature masterpiece and then cover it in
coke cans !!)   I'm sure there's an explanation... :-



Phil