British MkVI (BEF and Middle East) pages 80-83

[Hengist]

Hi, noting that the MkVI has stats of AP 2/60 and AT 2/50 with its 15mm MG which is now identical to that of the 2pdr of the Crusader and Matilda of the time.  In BKC2 the MkVI had an AP of 1/40(as the 2pdr) but NO AT to reflect the weaker gun, was this change deliberate?

Steve of Oz.

[Hengist]

Going to add another 'odd' change from BKC2

Matilda 2 used to have 5 Hits and a 4+ save- 115 pts (it was reckoned impregnable to all but 88mm fire) and the Crusader was 4 hits, 6+ save- 80pts (it was weaker and this seems fine)
Now
Matilda 2 is 3 Hits and a 5+ save - 60pts (Good armour)against the Crusader of 4 hits, 5+ save - 70pts (OK, fair enough it now costs more, but where would anybody get the idea that a Crusader was more heavily armored than a Matilda?)

Steve of Oz.

I haven't had time to go through all the lists, but these are troubling.

[Steve J]

The Sherman is also missing from the North Africa list.

[Techno]

Welcome to the forum, Steve.

Cheers - Phil

[Hengist]

Love BKC2 and just over from other forum...appreciate that Pendraken is keeping the game alive.

Steve.

[fsn]

What ho Hengist!

What you write is all douible Saxon to me. 

Just popped up to say welcome to the forum. It is a friendly, knowledgeable place with bouts of inanity and insanity. Chaps are pretty free with their sage advice (best used on lamb, they say) and some are quite inspiring with their batreps and the standards of their painting - and indeed the painting of their standards. 

Anyway, I'm sure there's lots of the chaps can talk +1s and 2/50 and whatnot, not only till the cows come home, but until said cows have returned smothered in an ale based gravy, encased in pastry, and accompanied by seasonal vegetables.

Carry on. 

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

RULE 1 - ignore FSN

RULE 2 - see rule 1 !!!


Welcome on here.

IanS

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Rule 3, just nod and say yes to Ian

[Hengist]

Thank you all, I think?

still valid questions however...

Steve of Oz.

[Dr Dave]

It must be a typo surely? How can a MkVI be as good AT as a 2pdr - and how can a Crusader be tougher than a Matilda... besides that the Matilda II-CS has vanished from the lists, despite being used in ALL infantry tank regts at some point - even those with Valentines!

If in doubt, or not content, I'd simply revert to the BKCII stats. 

[Steve J]

My thoughts are that they are typos too, but will await the rules writer to comment. To be honest, I didn't read the army lists when helping out with the rules update, concentrating instead on the rules.

Lots there to interest me, but will probably borrow bits from BKCIII and add onto BKCII as I know the latter so well. Too old a dog to learn new tricks

[Hengist]

Another thought, whilst I have your attention. What are peoples thoughts about the changes (simplification) of the Battle group restrictions from lists of 12+ restrictions, to 3 (Armour.Arty.offtable)?

Do you think we will see 40k type armies on the table (all Tigers tec.)

Steve of Oz

[Steve J]

I generally try to use historical OOB as a guide for my games, with the points purely used to help try and get a bit of game balance if required. Experience tends to help me judge if my Battlegroups are ok to give either one a chance of winning.

[Genom]

All of my forces are based round Orbats, and I select from that pool to the points needed to ensure that the game is more balanced. So I don't see it personally.

[Hengist]

Are these two errors going on the Errata lists?