A day to remember

[Sandinista]

Well let's raise a glass or two to Henry Ireton, Oliver Cromwell and the rest who showed us how we should treat the monarchy on this day in 1649 

Cheers
Ian

[Ithoriel]

Lol - celebrating people who replaced one monarch with another?

Traitors and religious fanatics both, a pox on them.

[Sandinista]

Traitor is an interesting term, open to many interpretations here.

Cheers
Ian

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Up the Commonwealth!

[d_Guy]

Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason.
-Harington 
(Via Alan Drury)

[Leman]

Hardly something to celebrate on one hand when ISIL is still behaving that way and is roundly condemned

[Sandinista]

Hardly something to celebrate on one hand when ISIL is still behaving that way and is roundly condemned

In that case, is playing wargames trivialising the suffering of thousands in war?

Cheers
Ian

[Leman]

Yes, But we're all sinners.

[Tawa]

Well let's raise a glass or two to Henry Ireton, Oliver Cromwell and the rest who showed us how we should treat the monarchy on this day in 1649

*blows raspberry!* 

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Least they banned Bl**DY Chiristmas.....

[FierceKitty]

Well let's raise a glass or two to Henry Ireton, Oliver Cromwell and the rest who showed us how we should treat the monarchy on this day in 1649. 

Cheers
Ian

By replacing it with a religious military dictatorship with a genocidal attitude to the Celts?

[Leman]

Like I said, not much to celebrate, and it's still going on. Comment in this morning's paper, "Is the government brainless OR heartless?" No, it is brainless AND heartless!

[Sandinista]

By replacing it with a religious military dictatorship with a genocidal attitude to the Celts?

Is this not more propaganda? Can you support that comment?

Cheers
Ian

[mollinary]

Is this not more propaganda? Can you support that comment?

Cheers
Ian

Warning! Warning! Warning! TMP behaviour alert!    

Mollinary

PS Before this all goes nuclear, I should make clear where I stand. Charles was by no means a great man, but one who found himself in situations he could not control, and whose efforts, often ill thought out and naive in conception, made things worse rather than better.  By 1649, perhaps there were no other options.   However, I think Andrew Marvell sums up best how I would like to remember this day, closely followed by a somewhat prescient Shakespeare in Macbeth:

"He nothing common did , or mean, Upon that memorable scene".  Marvell

"Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it".  Shakespeare

Apologies in advance if anything in the above causes offence. It is not intended.

Mollinary

[FierceKitty]

If you understood the arguments I'd use to support the comment, you wouldn't need me to explain them. I'm assuming my fellow-posters can read the same books that I have.