ACW basing for black powder.

Started by getagrip, 05 April 2015, 05:25:24 PM

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getagrip

Hi all.

What would you guys recommend for my ACW bases?

10mm PD minis using BP rules.

Thanks in advance. :)
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Utterly your choice!
I went 3 x 30mm x 40mm, giving 120mm width, but also allows you to form columns. It allows at least two ranks per base, plus space for mounted command/skirmishers too.
You might want to do 4 x as then you can form squares?
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Ithoriel

ACW, so not many squares being formed.

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getagrip

Quote from: mad lemmey on 05 April 2015, 05:27:35 PM
Utterly your choice!
I went 3 x 30mm x 40mm, giving 120mm width, but also allows you to form columns. It allows at least two ranks per base, plus space for mounted command/skirmishers too.
You might want to do 4 x as then you can form squares?

Thanks.

I've read people basing on 20x20 four figs per base.  This seems ridiculously small to me.  I'll be moving the buggers all day!
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My AWI Americans are on 60x30 x 2, it works well enough.
My Brits are on 20x30, 30x40, 30x40, 20x30 so I can detach light company and grenadiers.
The 4 figure thing sounds like a hangover from Fire and Fury...
It depends what formations you want? Line is easy, attack column can be done with three bases, by going two up, one back. Columns are just one after the other,and, as our learned fiend correctly pointed out, squares really didn't happen!
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Romans & Samuari, as well as AWI brits 3 x 40x30, with 4 or 5 to a base depending on 'heaviness' or 60 x 30 for AWI Anericans to show lack of flexibility!  LoA cav on 4x30x40...
Mongols not decided yet for the heavies.

I would definitely do a cavalry unit and then a dismounted unit (in loose line or skirmish, probably behind a linear obstacle ). On the same frontage as my infantry. As long as both forces have the same frontage in BP, it doesn't matter.

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getagrip

Thanks WIll. :)

Loose line?  I think I know what you mean but... :-\

Thanks for the cavalry clip; seems to be the element of ACW which really divides people.
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Bit radical, but for FPW I have based 60x60 where one base counts as two, using casualty markers to show losses. Side by side = line, one behind the other = column.
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getagrip

Hmm, that's a bit bigger than I was thinking. :-\
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Loose, as if in about 2/3 of the amount of line in the same space as a line unit.
If we are using the 20mm square base example, 4 foot vs 3 dismounted cavalry or 2 skirmishers per base.
Cavalry units tended to be smaller, and then 1 in 4 men would be a horse holder.
Union Cavalry also sometimes had repeating carbines, murderous rate of fire at short ranges.
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petercooman

I did warmaster size bases, 40X20, 8 models to a base in two lines of 4, 3 bases to a unit.

Cavalry  3 models to a base, 3 bases to a unit.

Skirmishers will be 3-4 models to a base i think.

Artillery are based towards the short edge. Works good for many rulesystems.

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Quote from: petercooman on 05 April 2015, 06:51:50 PM
I did warmaster size bases, 40X20, 8 models to a base in two lines of 4, 3 bases to a unit.

Cavalry  3 models to a base, 3 bases to a unit.

Skirmishers will be 3-4 models to a base i think.

Artillery are based towards the short edge. Works good for many rulesystems.

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Keep posting them, they're lovely.
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getagrip

Thanks Peter, they're cracking.

Works for me as WM is my main game. :)
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petercooman

It just works out pretty well too.

3 bases of 8 = 24 
-3 command figures and one casualty figure thrown in for good measure = 20

2 packs of infantry are 60 models, so that gives you enough regular troopers  for 3 units/9 bases.