Field of Glory Starter Packs

Started by Dragoon, 06 March 2015, 12:31:37 AM

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Dragoon

You could do Field of Glory (FoG) starter packs. I've not tried using 10mm. but I have seen Napoleonic FoG-n competitions and they looked great using a 40mm. wide x 30mm. deep base.
Instead of 8 Infantry or 3 Cavalry  per base using 15mm figures.
Using 10mm. figures you will have 12 Infantry or 5 to 6 Cavalry per base.
Ancient, Medieval, and Renaissance with a little effort and watching some games a lot of gamers will try them. you only have to see 6mm figures to see the mass effect.
A 800 AP army in ancients can around £120.00 in 15mm. and a starter army  around £90.00

Phil Steele has already produced the Battle of Zama  on a 2 feet square table using DBA rules and those elephants looked great.
Regards

Mike L

gregernest

I'll admit that I am still a novice FoG player.  I am building all my armies for the game in 10mm with Pendraken.

I am doing fine with the existing models and starter armies (whatever game they are for).

Although I would have loved it a few years ago...  :-[

Leon

It's something we've chatted about a few times, but once you start down this route it can be a long road!  If we do armies for Field of Glory, then people will want them for DBA, Black Powder, F&F, etc, etc.  The previous armies we've done, like the Warmaster ones, didn't sell too well, so we dropped them in the end.  With us adding more rules to our own catalogue, we'll be developing and adding more army packs suited to our own rules.

As always though, if people have got an army list they want to fill, put some catalogue codes on it, drop it over to us and we'll sort out the figures for you.

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Luddite

Ditto Leman.

Played these lamentable rules for a couple of years and really tried to like them.  Half way through one game the anvil dropped with a clang.  I've not played a game of FoG since.
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With FOG we always found the cross referencing chart with all the factors on very confusing.
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toxicpixie

They seem quite popular, but I can't say we enjoyed them. Apparently they work better for the Renaissance and Nappies versions but I'm disinclined to bother trying them (although Madaxeman Tims' battle reports are always amusing!).

We switched to Impetus and really like them. If prepacked armies weren't so much work I'd suggest prepacked "Basic Impetus" armies from Pendraken!
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Bodvoc

I am a big fan of Impetus too and 10mm is a great scale to play it in. Having said that I am playing a 28mm game of Romans v Gauls on Sunday, but most of my armies are in 10mm (and 6mm).
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FOG R does work for the later periods
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

gregernest

The best thing I did for FoG or FoGR was to take copies of the POA tables and black out everything that won't apply to our period.  Like elephants;  they just never made it into TYW.

After the relatively few games we've played, things go much quicker without having to track through all those needless modifiers.  8)

Dragoon

I used to own a spar convenience store. But I've been a salesman for 50years and the rules are the same no matter what you're selling.

Pendraken sells army packs at £28 also their own rules/army packs.
DBA 3 is a good set of rules and would be a good way of doing army packs, but you would have to work at it because it doesn't say in the rules, "how to base 10mm. Figures for DBA", because your pack size is in figures is 30 inf. or 15 cav. There is over supply of figures for what are essentially operational level games.
Thirty figure packs fit battalion level games, not the new game rules where where the basic manoeuvre unit is a brigade fortunately ACW Fire and Fury, also Napoleonic Age of Eagles and FoG-n will fit in fact most horse and musket and. Pike and shot games will work wth little figure fig wastage.
When we get to ancient and medieval rules that cover big battles, DBA, DBM and DBMM they don't have battalions.
The element or base is the basic unit, so take a Seleucid Army, (Book 2 list 19 for DBMM).
CinC a single element wedge say 5 figurines  (this is a chance to make this like your paint comp winners)
Companions wedge x 2 elements
Agema wedge x 2elements Catafracts
Sub Gen. Same as above x2
Sub Gen. Foot pike to lead the phalanx or Argyraspids (silver shields)
Line cavalry  x 12 bases 60 figures
Tarentines x 4 bases light horse 12 figures
Horse Archers 3 bases 9 figures
Greek Peltasts 8 bases 24 figures
scythed chariots 4 bases 8 chariots (these really look good)
Cretan archers 4bases 12 figures
Asiatic archers 1 base per 4 bases of pike
pikepisidian Tribesmen light infantry 8 bases 24 figures
Kappadokians irregular auxiliaries 6 bases 24 figures
Elephants
Camels
Bolt shooters
Camp
Loaded wagons
Pack Camels
Ditch and palisade
Drystone wall

Of course this applies to any Macedonian and Soccessor Army with various alterations
Like I said, catering to modern needs can be difficult and needs some work

Regards

Mike L

Dragoon

Quote from: toxicpixie on 06 March 2015, 12:06:41 PM
We switched to Impetus and really like them. If prepacked armies weren't so much work I'd suggest prepacked "Basic Impetus" armies from Pendraken!

You could offer the free impetus rules printed out for any one who buys an army at the shows you go to.
I use DBMM because I can get a game almost any time with the MAWS Manchester club.
Where I live there is only the wings club and they seem to be blood bowl or WWII gamers.
I've not played impetus but there seems to be a lot of supplements but like you say the basic game is free and I can afford that
Regards

Mike L

toxicpixie

I'd suggest giving Basic a try - it's like the DBA equivalent and has all the basic mechanics and armies. The main rules are "deeper" (more options, more depth but no more complex) and play larger games (although you can double up easily with multiple Basic armies!). One thin with the extra books is that you only need the ones you actually fancy the armies/period for :)

There's quite a few lists in the main rules anyway, and there also a shedload of "official beta lists" on the site to plunder too :)
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