Chain of command 10mm

Started by Fenton, 26 January 2015, 09:39:06 PM

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Fenton



When playing in 10mm do people use individual figures or bases for the infantry?

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fred.

I based most of my infantry in pairs on 30x15mm bases. Weapons teams in 3s on 20mm squares. And NCOs, officers, snipers and other specialists individually on 14/15mm washers.

This seems to balance between too many small things to move - and being able to spread out.

We played some of our first games with squad bases - this worked OK, but was hard to spread out in terrain, and you end up with lots of markers to track casualties.
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Cheers Fred

I was thinking of a squad bases to take the place of a single figure

I like your idea though as well
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Leman

The smallest bases I use are 1p pieces with three Arthurian infantry per base. Not keen on individually based figures, particularly small ones.
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Bodvoc

Now I am intrigued, what games/rules are you playing with 3 Arthurian Inf. per base?
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Dux Britanniarum - each penny (2p for cavalry) represents a 28mm base.



The photo shows a 28mm group of 6 figures - which translates to 18 figures in 10mm. Casualties etc are counted by base rather than figure.
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My SCW are the first figs I will play in 10mm CoC. They are all individually based (except LMG/HMG and the odd group of figs to represent command teams.

I will let you know how it goes when I first play a game
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Fenton

If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Bodvoc




QuoteThe photo shows a 28mm group of 6 figures - which translates to 18 figures in 10mm. Casualties etc are counted by base rather than figure.

Leman, your are the man! Cheers for that, I was wondering about doing 4 figure round bases for Lion Rampant, with cav. on larger round bases, 2 to a base. But not for a while as I have too many other projects on the go.
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Quote from: Westmarcher on 27 January 2015, 01:05:12 PM
What a great idea!  :)

Agreed got me thinking now for Lion Rampant and a cheaper way to play Dux Britanniarum
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Fenton

I am wondering what it would be like with 5 figures on a 2p
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Leman

Even bigger I suspect, but a little more expensive - 12p instead of 6p per unit! Splash out; you know you want to.
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Wulf

28 January 2015, 08:31:24 PM #13 Last Edit: 28 January 2015, 08:34:50 PM by Wulf
In CoC I use 12mm diameter washers with individual figures. One problem is getting standing or kneeling figures for certain weapons - especially AT Rifles! The other problem is the hole in the washer... can be tricky getting the mini solidly fixed to it!

Small AT Guns I base on a 1p, with 1 figure (kneeling). The other gun crew are individually based, but 2-3 of them are on 'crescent moon' shaped bases made out of cardboard to fit as close as possible to the gun. One thing I don't like about individual figures is the way it spreads weapon teams & crew out too much. As I game the Fall of France & Barbarossa, I haven't had the need to go up to a 2p base for guns so far, although I do have an 88 Flak gun on a 1" square base...

ronan

Quote from: Wulf on 28 January 2015, 08:31:24 PM
(...) The other problem is the hole in the washer... can be tricky getting the mini solidly fixed to it!


Hello
I use washers for my 10mm soldiers for Chain of Command
I glue a small piece of cardboard ( from cereal boxes !) before gluing the soldier.

For team weapons, I changed my mind, and now will stick the 1st crewman with the weapon, on thick cardboard  shaped as needed. The other men of the team will use "shaped" cardboard to fit with the first, or washers ( smaller than the one used for the "fighting team" )

more here :  http://2d6.fr/?tag=cocommand


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Quote from: Fenton on 26 January 2015, 09:39:06 PM

When playing in 10mm do people use individual figures or bases for the infantry?

It's a good question and I think the answer is it depends.

Single mounted figures are great, but it gets too much hassle to move lots of them around the table-top.  Also, for me anyway, the figures have to represent something meaningful i.e: buddy team of two men, or a fire-team of four men etc, and therefore I base accordingly, which is probably a bit vague.

Marking casualties on mutli-figure bases is also a hassle, but less of a hassle than moving loads of individual figures, but YMMV.
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Wulf

Quote from: Paint it Pink on 03 February 2015, 04:00:42 PMMarking casualties on mutli-figure bases is also a hassle, but less of a hassle than moving loads of individual figures, but YMMV.
I am experimenting with sabot bases, primarily for TFL's other skirmish game, Sharp Practice, which uses formations of men as much as individuals. I'm making them up from thick card, two or three layers (experimenting...) the lower one whole, the upper one(s) with holes in... As I use a standard 12mm washer base, it seems to work, but 10mm minis are very lightweight and keep falling off...  >:(  The double depth of holes may help with that.

getagrip

Quote from: Wulf on 03 February 2015, 04:12:03 PM
10mm minis are very lightweight and keep falling off...  >:(  The double depth of holes may help with that.

Could use a steel base plate and then glue the minis onto magnets?
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Quote from: getagrip on 03 February 2015, 04:50:43 PMCould use a steel base plate and then glue the minis onto magnets?
Yes, nice, the washers have holes you could fit very small rare earth magnets in to the base would still be more or less level... But I wasn't going to make the sabots square, and cutting steel plates into organic shapes may be tricky. Square/rectangular bases are the thing I like least about multi-figure bases (I'm fine with them in Sharp Practice, since the formation is meant to be rectangular).

Paint it Pink

Going slightly off tangent, but when you think about what is happening in real life, soldiers tend to go around in pairs.  He's your buddy and you stick together.  The Marines have a saying, "two is one, and one is none."  So with 10mm figures in mind I find that two fit very nicely on a one pence piece (British penny for any foreign friends reading this and going you what? – approximately 20mm in diameter), but while two men might make a good scout team, four or more men is what you need to start building up a plan of attack.  So I'm tending towards bases of four 10mm figures on a two-pence piece (approximately 25mm in diameter). 

Using four man fire-teams means one can build squads and one's platoon with between six to nine bases of troops plus separate command stands and support.  This is based on the assumption that one is playing platoon to company level actions.

If you want to play larger games one will need to either to move away from one figure equal one man, or have larger bases representing platoons, but this will mean less flexibility in how you move the formation on the table top.
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