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[Orcs]

The 15mm jacobite stuff has recently started to be re-released, Saw it at a show, but cannot remember the new company name

Also Essex have brought the "Mikes Models" rennaisance range back into production.   

I picked up a couple of lots of "Mikes Models" on ebay a couple of years ago - so now have 300 or so to paint.

[Fenton]

The 15mm jacobite stuff has recently started to be re-released, Saw it at a show, but cannot remember the new company name

Also Essex have brought the "Mikes Models" rennaisance range back into production.   

I picked up a couple of lots of "Mikes Models" on ebay a couple of years ago - so now have 300 or so to paint.

Polly Oliver?

[DanJ]

I really liked the 15mm Jacobite stuff, lots of character and a very good range of renaissance figures.

I've now sold all my 15mm ancients in favour of 10mm but just can't part with the rennaisance.

Incidentally what do most people think of when the say renaissance?  I mentally define it as about 1350 to 1550 and the wars in Europe, especially Italy, but ending arround the Spanish/Dutch wars at a push I'd go to 1600 in Britain as it was a military back water.

This view is probably more based on the developments in art and architecture than military conflicts.

[Hertsblue]

I'd tend to push it a bit further up the scale from 1494, when Charles VIII of France invaded Naples, through to 1683, the Relief of Vienna.

[WeeWars]

This view is probably more based on the developments in art and architecture than military conflicts.

I always found that my Italian Wars armies struggled against the later 16th-Century armies.

Mike's Models, now there's a name to conjure with. They were, as Michael says, chunky little fellows and the cavalry rode what appeared to be St Bernard dogs. They did, however, have a lot of character. 

Aly had to follow Mike's style for the Mike's Models range. However, he was also a big fan of Bill Lamming at the time who also sculpted in a chunky style.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

According to Professor Stephen Pumphrey at Lancaster University, with whom I did two units of Enlightenment History whilst at Lancaster:
1485 - 1688 in the UK. However it is a sliding date, some areas were earlier (Italy, France, areas of Germany) some later (Spain, Scandinavia, the UK) and some slipped backwards (France).

[Fenton]

I did two units of Enlightenment History whilst at Lancaster:
1485 - 1688

Hmmm You are much older than I imagined

[Matt J]

and at uni for an awful long time 

[fsn]

Perhaps he means 1st April 1985 to 1st June 1988.

About 3 years.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

 

'Twas a long course, we studied the Enlightenment in real time.
Professor Pumphrey is still there too!

[paulr]

and at uni for an awful long time 

Are any of us surprised by this 

[GrumpyOldMan]

AArrrgggh!!!!

Incidentally what do most people think of when the say renaissance? 

Could we not open this can of worms!!! Back in the day we had robust discussions when I was setting up a replacement discussion group, on what to call the period and what period it covered. It led to the replacement discussion group to be called REMPAS - ie Renaissance, Early Modern, Pike and Shot so that everybody could feel included 

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[FierceKitty]

A cultural movement, not a period of military history. But I suppose it's no sillier that "ancients" (a blanket term covering the overwhelming majority of human society, and frequently stretched to cover medievals), "colonials" (which assumes that nothing was colonised before the Victorians, or by anyone of non-European origins), "fantasy" (which is somehow distinguished from "sci-fi", I'm told, but sure as Hell not by anything remotely scientific in the latter, and doesn't include fielding Ayyubids against Carthaginians - ugh!), or "moderns" (which somehow excludes wars in which people still living participated, if one believes its afficionadi).

Let's face it, semantics and this hobby have little in common. Just read anything by Phil Barker.

And that, m'lud, is the case for the prosecution.

[DanJ]

Could we not open this can of worms!!!

That's why I asked it 

A cultural movement, not a period of military history

That's what I always think of, especially in Italy it ties in somewhat with the various Italian Wars which is where my main interest in Renaissance Warfare is centred.

[FierceKitty]

Let me buy you a drink, sir.

[Hertsblue]

A cultural movement, not a period of military history. But I suppose it's no sillier that "ancients" (a blanket term covering the overwhelming majority of human society, and frequently stretched to cover medievals), "colonials" (which assumes that nothing was colonised before the Victorians, or by anyone of non-European origins), "fantasy" (which is somehow distinguished from "sci-fi", I'm told, but sure as Hell not by anything remotely scientific in the latter, and doesn't include fielding Ayyubids against Carthaginians - ugh!), or "moderns" (which somehow excludes wars in which people still living participated, if one believes its afficionadi).

Let's face it, semantics and this hobby have little in common. Just read anything by Phil Barker.

And that, m'lud, is the case for the prosecution.

"Renaissance" is merely a label to obviate the need to repeat "a period of time in which medieval fortresses were rendered obsolete by artillery, firearms proliferated and eventually became the principle weapon of the infantry and the armoured horseman performed his swan-song" over and over again. As are the others.

Oh, and be warned, reading Phil Barker promotes hair-loss - torn out in bunches.     

[FierceKitty]

Language is the first casualty of laziness.

[toxicpixie]

I'd reply to that but it's effort. Meh.

[Leman]

So would I, but too much painting to do and just spent 5 minutes ranting at Ithoriel.