Napoleonic period Polish lancers

[Paul Davies]

Has anyone got any suggestions for the best Pendraken (obviously) figures to use for the Polish lancers please? I've got a lot of the NEW 1809 ranges, but just like the lancers... Thanks.

[Hertsblue]

You could probably get away with Austrian Uhlans for the guard lancers. Main problem is that the shabraques have rounded ends instead of pointed. The 1860 Austrian Uhlans have no shabraques at all and no plumes, so they might do for Polish line lancers in marching order. 

[Leman]

You might also consider the 1870 French lancers. No noticeable shabraque, but they do have fringed epaulettes.

[Paul Davies]

Hertsblue and Dour Puritan,

Thank you both for your suggestions, I'll check them out.

[cameronian]

You might also consider the 1870 French lancers. No noticeable shabraque, but they do have fringed epaulettes.

No lance pennants, ditto the Austrians, try the Prussian 1870 figures.

[Hertsblue]

Lance pennons are easy with strip paper. These are the 1860 Austrians.

[Techno]

I like those ! 
Cheers - Phil

[Leman]

I really do like Austrian armies.

[paulr]

Very nice, not sure about the labels 

[Hertsblue]

The labels allow us to play with paperless rules, casualties being marked off on the labels. Not elegant, perhaps, but IMHO preferable to sheets of A4 lists strewn across the table.   

[cameronian]

Lance pennons are easy with strip paper. These are the 1860 Austrians.

Nice figures; my Knottel print of Austrian lancers has the lance without the pennant but with a ball beneath the spear point, presumably to stop it going in too far and sticking. Just out of interest, why wouldn't you use the Prussian lancers which already have the pennant?

[paulr]

The labels allow us to play with paperless rules, casualties being marked off on the labels. Not elegant, perhaps, but IMHO preferable to sheets of A4 lists strewn across the table.   

The labels look very functional and definitely agree with not having A4 list all over the table  I was sort of continuing a comment about labels in another thread

[Hertsblue]

Just out of interest, why wouldn't you use the Prussian lancers which already have the pennant?

I don't actually like the cast pennons (although I used the figures for Prussian uhlans in my von Bredow formation). I thought them too thick and "duvet-like". And since Pendraken actually supply Austrian uhlans ready-made, I went with them.

The point about the lance pennons not being carried is interesting. The Pickelhaube Press booklet mentions this too. However, Zannoni and Fiorentino in their L'Esercito Austriaco nel 1859 depict pennons in their illustrations and also show a contemporary print of an uhlan with a lance-pennon. If the former is correct, I don't think I'm going to bother stripping the pennons off.

Oh, and Paul, lance pennons are definitely right for Napoleonic Poles. 

[Leman]

Interestingly in WWI Austrian Uhlans didn't have lances, never mind pennons.

[cameronian]

I don't actually like the cast pennons (although I used the figures for Prussian uhlans in my von Bredow formation). I thought them too thick and "duvet-like". And since Pendraken actually supply Austrian uhlans ready-made, I went with them.

The point about the lance pennons not being carried is interesting. The Pickelhaube Press booklet mentions this too. However, Zannoni and Fiorentino in their L'Esercito Austriaco nel 1859 depict pennons in their illustrations and also show a contemporary print of an uhlan with a lance-pennon. If the former is correct, I don't think I'm going to bother stripping the pennons off.

Oh, and Paul, lance pennons are definitely right for Napoleonic Poles. 

I certainly wouldn't strip them off, they do look very smart and after all is it really that important. The Austrian (1866) lance tips that I saw in May had the solid ball beneath the point, perhaps it was a later innovation.