WW2 help!

Started by ianjgow, 05 August 2014, 10:51:20 PM

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toxicpixie

I think we're talking at cross purposes (the joy of the internet and it's blunt instrument-ness...). It's not "what did the Army call the gun/where it fitted into the force structure and what was it used for" but  what model to use if Ian wants some on table Commonwealth arty?

The game treats any on table gun the same, just divides up effectiveness into Light and Medium (or Heavy for the really nasty ATGs IIRC), so - should he use the 25pdr or the 5.5"? And what should they class as when shooting at people in game terms? I'd suggest the 25pdr, as it was often used as a direct fire, pseudo-ATG up to the end of the Desert campaign, and in game terms (not in "doctrine"/army organisation & nomenclature terms) treat as a Light gun for effectiveness late on, but a Medium one early on (in game effectiveness terms).

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Hertsblue

I agree with TP. The Germans in the Western Desert reckoned that their captured 25prs were as good, if not better, than their 88s for knocking out tanks. But obviously effectiveness dies off as better protected vehicles become available to both sides.
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julesav

There are several instances I can think of in the Far Eastern theatre where Brits used 25pdrs and 5.5" guns for direct fire infantry support weapons. In both cases I've heard of the guns were used singly to blow a specific bunker and a set of fort gates (to allow Gurkhas access). If you are doing early war these types could be Blacker Bombard (used in the Desert by Indian units) and maybe even examples of the 'Smith Gun'. Abteilung is pretty abstract so it's down to personal choice really, sorry about that!

ianjgow

Thanks TP, that's exactly what I mean. So, gaming 1944 I'll treat on table 25pdrs as Light A/T & won't need to model anything bigger as it's all in the off table Artillery Command.

Cheers all!

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