Just for mollinary - Wood stacks!

[Leon]

We recently had a chat with mollinary, who was on the lookout for some wood stacks to pop on his table as a scenery item.  Something like the one on the cover of this book:



After a bit of email correspondence, and a bit of spare time on the part of one of our sculptors, these arrived this week:



These should be a very handy little feature for all manner of games throughout the 18th/19th centuries, so hopefully folk like them!

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Brilliant idea Andrew!

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Why not use cocktail sticks.....

Even the containers are useful.......

IanS

[Hertsblue]

One less item you have to make for yourself.

[mollinary]

Leon,

You and your sculptor are Heroes!         Those are fabulous. When will they be available?  Will they be resin or metal?   Packs of how many?   By coincidence, I just finished yesterday a batch of scratch build ones myself!  And yes, I did use cocktail sticks!  But it was very fiddly work, and I don't know how long it would take me to steel myself to do another batch (the first one is 21 bases, each stack based on one of my standard infantry 25mm x 20mm bases).  At least it allowed me to work out how I will paint the versions I will buy from Pendraken, or Minibits, whichever produces them.  They seem to me to be hugely versatile, not only for dotting around forest scenes, but also something for every house's back garden.  After all, firewood was an ever present requirement before the twentieth century, and even during it.

 Bravo Leon!

Mollinary

[Techno]

Those work really well !
What are they made out of ?
Cheers - Phil

[Dazza]

Those work really well !
What are they made out of ?
Cheers - Phil

Trees 

[Techno]

Oik ! 
Cheers - Phil

[Leman]

Brilliant; must get me some of those when they become available.

[Leon]

Glad everyone likes them!

Why not use cocktail sticks.....

Because these save hours of work!  And cocktail sticks would be 3/4mm or so, so nearly 2ft thick logs at 10mm scale, quite big for a domestic wood pile!

What are they made out of ?

He's used 1mm plastic rod for them.

When will they be available?

With them being plastic they'll need to go into a low-temp mould, so I'll have to check and see if we've got enough masters to fill one here.

Will they be resin or metal?

Metal.

Packs of how many?

Not sure yet, we'll have to see how many we can fit in a mould, but I'd imagine somewhere between 10-20 per pack.

[mollinary]

Glad everyone likes them!

Because these save hours of work!  And cocktail sticks would be 3/4mm or so, so nearly 2ft thick logs at 10mm scale, quite big for a domestic wood pile!
Right on both counts! My attempts have only three or four layers, and the four high ones are shoulder height on my figures.
He's used 1mm plastic rod for them.

With them being plastic they'll need to go into a low-temp mould, so I'll have to check and see if we've got enough masters to fill one here.

Metal.

Not sure yet, we'll have to see how many we can fit in a mould, but I'd imagine somewhere between 10-20 per pack.

Great. I will be ordering as soon as they are available!

[cameronian]

" ... hunderten von Holzstoessen klafterweise aufgeschlichtet."

Splendid, now we can do the Svib, BTW how long is a cord?

[Ithoriel]

" ... hunderten von Holzstoessen klafterweise aufgeschlichtet."

Splendid, now we can do the Svib, BTW how long is a cord?

Wikepedia says:

"A cord is the amount of wood that, when "ranked and well stowed" (arranged so pieces are aligned, parallel, touching and compact), occupies a volume of 128 cubic feet (3.62 m3). This corresponds to a well stacked woodpile 4 feet (122 cm) high, 8 feet (244 cm) long, and 4 feet (122 cm) deep"

[cameronian]

Just so.

[mollinary]

" ... hunderten von Holzstoessen klafterweise aufgeschlichtet."

Splendid, now we can do the Svib, BTW how long is a cord?

Depends.  The above quote refers to the Canadian or US cord, which is the one I first came to. However, if you Goggle "klafter" and look at images, in about the third row down is a rather hippyish looking chap holding a stick with both hands and his arms outstretched. It is a link to a little German  "what is" sort of video on weights and measures. Quite interesting.  Looking at klafter on wiki will give you all sorts of old German and Austrian measures for it. You pays your money and takes your choice.

Mollinary

[mollinary]

Depends.  The above quote refers to the Canadian or US cord, which is the one I first came to. However, if you Goggle "klafter" and look at images, in about the third row down is a rather hippyish looking chap holding a stick with both hands and his arms outstretched. It is a link to a little German  "what is" sort of video on weights and measures. Quite interesting.  Looking at klafter on wiki will give you all sorts of old German and Austrian measures for it. You pays your money and takes your choice.

Mollinary

Just checked again. The image has moved to row five, right hand end. 

Mollinary

[cameronian]

Klafter seems to mean different things in different contexts. A Birago Bridge (Austrian, field portable) train included four bridge equipages, each with 42 Klafter = 79.6 length of bridge. We researched Birage bridges on line and found extensive material on Birago and his miliitary bridging system with many photographs and line drawings of wagons with pontoons and timbers, but we didn't find the term "Klafter" attached to any of these. However, Ted the translator checked in his old (1930's) Der Neue Brockhaus which says that Klafter can also be an archaic term for a distance equal to a man with both arms outstretched. In this context we are surmising that a Klafter refers to either a pier structure which has beams attached reaching out in both directions like a man with arms outstretched or perhaps a single pontoon section of bridge with its section of decking. The work continues, I wonder if Leon is up for a Birago set 

[mollinary]

Klafter seems to mean different things in different contexts. A Birago Bridge (Austrian, field portable) train included four bridge equipages, each with 42 Klafter = 79.6 length of bridge. We researched Birage bridges on line and found extensive material on Birago and his miliitary bridging system with many photographs and line drawings of wagons with pontoons and timbers, but we didn't find the term "Klafter" attached to any of these. However, Ted the translator checked in his old (1930's) Der Neue Brockhaus which says that Klafter can also be an archaic term for a distance equal to a man with both arms outstretched. In this context we are surmising that a Klafter refers to either a pier structure which has beams attached reaching out in both directions like a man with arms outstretched or perhaps a single pontoon section of bridge with its section of decking. The work continues, I wonder if Leon is up for a Birago set 

Interesting stuff, and undoubtedly true as to the different meanings of Klafter. I think the basis of all this is the outstretched arms measurement described in the video. I pointed out. This I essentially a fathom, or six feet, depending on people's definition of a foot. The klafter as a cubic measurement appears to be based on this prinicple.  Have a look at the video, it is worth it, if only for showing how few Germans understand what the word means!

Mollinary

[Raider4]

And cocktail sticks would be 3/4mm or so, so nearly 2ft thick logs at 10mm scale, quite big for a domestic wood pile!

Blimey! 3/4mm thick cocktail sticks? They obviously like them thick up north. My southern-softy ones are only 2mm . . . .



Cheers, Martyn

[mollinary]

Blimey! 3/4mm thick cocktail sticks? They obviously like them thick up north. My southern-softy ones are only 2mm . . . .



Cheers, Martyn

My southern softy ones are a tad under 2.5mm from Sainsbury's! But the point is a good one. Four logs high is shoulder height, and you can see from the  illustration that Leon posted with the first post what we are trying to get at. But for me, the big point  is that this is a very fiddly, time consuming activity, when I have many other time consuming, fiddly activities  to compete with it. I have 21 home made ones, but for my Swiepwald scenario I will probably need in excess of 100.  This is just going to save me so much time.   What other firm would do this?   

Mollinary