What happens ?....Scottish Independence.

Started by Techno, 10 June 2014, 07:13:56 AM

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Steve J

QuoteWhat you hear on TV and radio strangely only is for one side

The coverage mentioned above has looked at both sides of the debate, with impartiality IMHO. The latter programme really does highlight the flaws/assumptions made by both campaigns, so once again well worth a listen.

sebigboss79

Quote from: Steve J on 13 June 2014, 10:33:44 AM
The coverage mentioned above has looked at both sides of the debate, with impartiality IMHO. The latter programme really does highlight the flaws/assumptions made by both campaigns, so once again well worth a listen.

Cui bono is always the most important question. If one -like me- generally does not believe any politician or journalist the final question still persists: Who should decide your fate. I am quite sure most people will disagree if I feel inclined to run their affairs.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Doug Adams had it right - anyone who wants power should NOT have it.....

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sebigboss79

Quote from: ianrs54 on 14 June 2014, 06:46:27 AM
Doug Adams had it right - anyone who wants power should NOT have it.....

IanS

Wise and wrong at the same time.

With power comes responsibility.

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As long as the Scots are comfortable with the idea that every other European country of recent years which has seceded from a larger union has ended up being occupied by the Russians, they can vote as their hearts want.
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Yoiur "recent" must be very recent indeed.
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mollinary

Quote from: ianrs54 on 14 June 2014, 06:46:27 AM
Doug Adams had it right - anyone who wants power should NOT have it.....

IanS

I think he nicked it from Plato's Republic, where, if my memory doesn't play tricks, one of the key necessary characteristics of the Philosopher King is he should not want to wield the power, but does so out of an altruistic belief (knowledge?) that there is no-one who could wield it better!

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Quote from: mollinary on 16 June 2014, 07:55:46 AM
... there is no-one who could wield it better!

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Hertsblue

Dare I mention Lord Acton's stricture? "All power corrupts.... "
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Absolutely   ;) :D


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Sunray

I had a drink (well a few) with Scots Nats in Glasgow union some weeks ago.  What strikes me is the broad church that is represented.  Yes, you have the Dominion status that is the official centre, but to the right you have Devolution Max brigade who want the same status as Isle of Man, Channel Isles etc (not in the Union but under the Crown), and to the left you have republicans.  I was surprised how many "blue noses"  (middle class Rangers types) are up for devo- max.

The Nats plans for Scottish defence is interesting.

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