1866 Austrian Gun Teams

[vitrier]

All this raises the question of when the shako plume was introduced. I don't think I have ever seen a representation of Austrian gunners in 1859 wearing the shako plume. For example, Bruce Weigle's 1859 rules show on page 53 a Fritz Neumann illustration of Austrian artillery in action at San Martino. There is not a plume to be seen.

[mollinary]

All this raises the question of when the shako plume was introduced. I don't think I have ever seen a representation of Austrian gunners in 1859 wearing the shako plume. For example, Bruce Weigle's 1859 rules show on page 53 a Fritz Neumann illustration of Austrian artillery in action at San Martino. There is not a plume to be seen.

This question is much easier to answer, as it is contained in the Teuber and Ottenfled History of the Army 1700-1867. For officers, the plume was introduced by an order of 18 September 1860.  For other ranks the new shako, with the plume, was introduced by an order of  3 July 1862.

Sorted!

Mollinary

[Leman]

La plume de ma tante est sur le shako de ma l'oncle. Right then, lets wait for the OCD brigade to tell us that plume means pen in French.

[vitrier]

Sorted indeed! I am most grateful.

Vitrier

[Hertsblue]

La plume de ma tante est sur le shako de ma l'oncle. Right then, lets wait for the OCD brigade to tell us that plume means pen in French.

[mollinary]

La plume de ma tante est sur le shako de ma l'oncle. Right then, lets wait for the OCD brigade to tell us that plume means pen in French.

If only we had a French FK (chat ferocieuse?  ) I am sure he/she would have pointed out that it should be "mon oncle" , as Molesworth might have said " as any fule kno!" 

Mollinary

[Leman]

B*****ks! Not the OCD brigade but the French teacher. Honest sir, me uncle's a tranny.

[Techno]

 
Cheers - Phil

[mollinary]

B*****ks! Not the OCD brigade but the French teacher. Honest sir, me uncle's a tranny.

So she is, in fact your Auntie? In which case she would be "ma tante"?   

Mollinary

PS in retrospect, should our French FK not have been "chat feroce""?  Fraps L'Enfer de moi,

M

[FierceKitty]

FK much disturbed people take his name in vane.

[Ithoriel]

FK much disturbed people take his name in vane.

Clearly much disturbed!

[FierceKitty]

That wot I sa. Molesworth dear memory for other peple here too, you kno.

[Techno]

Shome mishtake, shoorly - Hic !

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Phil - stop taking the pills.....

IanS

[Techno]