Falklands War - Early Wip pics.

[Techno]

Pah !
I still can't get the hang of photobucket properly !

A bit further on.....I'll try and take the pics in better light tomorrow....Can't be bothered to get the tripod set up tonight (Oops..Damn...Wottagivaway.) Still bits to do on some of the figures (like arms and weapons !)...others are all but finished.

Cheers - Phil.

[fred.]

Look good - whats the 2nd guy in the top row doing? Looks like he's got a giant danish pastry???

[Steve J]

The Royal Marines are coming along nicely .

[Techno]

Look good - whats the 2nd guy in the top row doing? Looks like he's got a giant danish pastry???

C'mon Fred
It's Swiss roll for goodness sake.....Isn't it obvious ?
Oh ....all right then..It's his sleeping mat rolled up.

You can't see it from the front, but the chap on the right of the British forces is loaded up to the nines with kit.....So I thought I'd do one of the Argentinians in a similar fashion.
How those guys carried all that stuff is totally beyond me....I don't think I could even lift the British kit onto my back.....Let alone march mile after mile with it....Stroll on !...Full of admiration for them.

Cheers - Phil

[nikharwood]

Good to see progress Phil - looking great 

[Techno]

Thanks Nik.

Cheers - Phil.

[Nosher]

These are looking absolutely awesome and will be very high on the purchase list once released.

I'd echo Rob's comments on LAW/MAW - Jimpy etc. If I can make one observation I think the argy carrying the blanket should be dropped from the range With the way PD packs are arranged I would not like to have twenty or so argies carrying blanket rolls There must be a better use for the figure?

There is also something about the weapons the brits are carrying which I cant put my finger on?? It is difficult to tell from the photios but it looks like they are carrying armalites rather than SLR's? The barrels look quite short and there seems to be some sort of carrying handle over the top of the breech ejection area. The SLR carrying handle was never left up when firing.

[Techno]

These are looking absolutely awesome and will be very high on the purchase list once released.

I'd echo Rob's comments on LAW/MAW - Jimpy etc. If I can make one observation I think the argy carrying the blanket should be dropped from the range With the way PD packs are arranged I would not like to have twenty or so argies carrying blanket rolls There must be a better use for the figure?

There is also something about the weapons the brits are carrying which I cant put my finger on?? It is difficult to tell from the photios but it looks like they are carrying armalites rather than SLR's? The barrels look quite short and there seems to be some sort of carrying handle over the top of the breech ejection area. The SLR carrying handle was never left up when firing.

Hi Nosher.

Quite possibly the blanket carrying chap will get modified....When Leon's feeling up to scratch again we can sort things out. (Hint hint Leon )

I know exactly what you mean about the SLRs.
Believe it or not they're (scale wise) a bit too long already !....It's because the barrel is (has to be) too fat they 'look wrong'.....and 'stumpy'
Ideally I'd use thinner rod, but that would make them such swine to cast...and they'd be too fragile. (I think we've all discussed this before.)
I may lengthen them a mm or two....Although that would make them even more out of scale, it might make them 'look right' ?

The 'carrying handle' that's on a couple is supposed to be a sight/night sight.....I can pick those off in no time If people would prefer ?

Still lots to sort out with these guys....Like I said earlier, I'm sort of doing my own thing at the mo'....But really pleased you like them.

Cheers - Phil.

[Steve J]

Diecast vehicles have to be made out of scale in places simply to let the metal flow through the mould as it were, yet they look fine as a whole. The same is true of figures, weapons, spears etc. I'd make the whole figure look right IMHO.

[Nosher]

Not having any experience of casting/modelling thanks for the explanation Techno - most helpful

In terms of the Night Sight have you seen this

http://www.forces80.com/infantry_weapons.htm

The 1st generation Night Sight is the monstrosity pictured attached to the L1A1 and it was a heavy old bit of kit. It was in service and was in use during the falklands but in limited quantities and was still in use in Ireland when I was stationed there in the late 80's early 90's. The Hilux SUSAT followed later so wouldn't be appropriate.

Can I suggest that night sight is modelled to match the photo if possible?

[Techno]

Cheers Nosher.

That certainly IS a big piece of kit....My pretty (flat art..not photos) piccys must incorrectly show the newer model.
I'll just leave one of those and pick the others off.....Might even save that just for a prone sniper if one's required ?

Question you might be able to answer for me ?.....Again looking at pretty flat art, they seem to portray 'something' tacked on to the end of some of the SLRs....A flash eliminator ?
If I can do a not too chunky version of whatever it is, I can elongate the barrels by adding that....Otherwise I might try a 'dodge' I picked up from the Perrys, but have never tried myself..... rather than messing too severely with the models.

Thanks - Phil.

[Nosher]

Phil do you have a photo/pic of the 'something' tacked onto the end of some of the SLR's? Yes there is a flash eliminator at the end of an SLR barrel but in 10mm it would be negligible?

The only thing that springs to mind we ever 'tacked' onto the end of an SLR barrel (other than a bayonet!) is a blank firing attachment
Might be able to help if you have a pic thats postable or a webpicture?

[Techno]

Hi Nosher.

Even in the 'pretty pics' it's relatively tiny....I'm sure it must be a flash eliminator.....
I'll have a 'play' with just one of the SLRs to see what it comes out like....Think I can make it work, without it looking silly (fingers crossed)
Amazingly....Pretty sure I know what the blank firing attachment looks like....Good bit more noticeable.

Thanks - Phil.

[Dazza]

not something like this then ?


L1A1 - Muzzle cover (It is of a rubberised foam construction, 15cm overall length, and attatches to the rifle with a hole in the tail, which you pull over the bayonet lug.)


or could it be one of these :



the L6A1 BFA, its a massive, solid BFA capable of trapping a bullet if needed.


Left to Right
Canadian C1 BFA
Canadian C1A1 BFA (also British L1A1 BFA)
British L1A2 BFA
British L1A2 (modified) BFA
British L6A1 BFA
Australian BFA

[Rob]

Even in the 'pretty pics' it's relatively tiny....I'm sure it must be a flash eliminator.....
I'll have a 'play' with just one of the SLRs to see what it comes out like....Think I can make it work, without it looking silly (fingers crossed)
Amazingly....Pretty sure I know what the blank firing attachment looks like....Good bit more noticeable.

Miles laser?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Integrated_Laser_Engagement_System

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

In 1982? 

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

In 1982? 

Yep -  but not I think on rifles.

BFA's were normally the smaller types.
The II sight is a Starlight Scope - large and heavy.
IanS

[Techno]

Shoot me down in flames Guys...
But....As far as the sights are concerned....Could it be that the artist has taken his reference from the sights that the Argentine army used on their SLRs ?
From the limited research I've been able to do, it appears that the 'bad guys' had more up to date resources than our chaps....(Though they blamed their defeat on THEM having inferior equipment.)?

The 'flash eliminator'......It's been portrayed as something much 'cleaner and neater' than Dazza's rubber thingy pic.....Can't believe it's supposed to represent any of the yellow 'wossnames'.

But the help is VERY much appreciated.....

Thanks All - Cheers - Phil. (who's very dazed and confused this morning.....Bought myself a spiffy new soldering iron which arrived yesterday.....I reckon I've given myself an overdose of Butane.....Couldn't get the damn iron to fire up.....Over and over and over again.... But would I go outside in the fresh air.....No "It'll go next time " !
Boy did I feel horrid last night.

[nikharwood]

Might be worth having a look at the Vietnam Aussies Phil - their SLRs look great...



Loads more pics here: http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/w/page/7825429/CWC%20Australian%20battlegroup

[Techno]

Ta Nik.

I'm going to have a go at lengthening the SLRs I've done on the models already, using a tiny speck of solder on the very tip of the barrels (and then neatening them up with my custom made 'emery boards' and a miniscule smidgeon of putty.)
If that doesn't work I'll redo them....Though I'll probably have to have a hissy fit first.

Cheers - Phil. (Good paint job on the sci-fi marines Matey...Spot on !)