suppression again

[simmo]

On page 4 of the BKC errata under opportunity fire there is a rule paragraph for suppressive fire detailing the fact that weapons which cannot score hits on a target can fire for suppression, these hit on a 6 then the target would roll for suppression.In effect a double six is required here! If the target had a save would it do so before the suppression role?

Now do these suppression errata rules under opportunity fire apply under normal firing circumstances?

Thanks for reading

[Big Insect]

Not sure I fully understand the question but any weapon that cannot cause a hit on a target (e.g. * / #  or H under half range against an armoured target) can cause a suppression, if a hit would have been achieved.
The mechanism is standard across all types of shooting/fire.

Cheers
Mark

[simmo]

Thanks for answering my query. Until I had read the downloadable rues errata document I would have fired suppression fire as standard.

So a rifle platoon 3/30 firing at a tank at say 30cms would throw 3 dice hitting on a 456 assuming no modifiers apply. The tank then dices to save and then dices again for any suppression caused by unsaved  hits.

My query was about the Errata which says such firing under opportunity fire hits on a 6.I've copied and pasted the paragraph below. There is no mention of a save here so it would suggest that opportunity fire is handled in a slight different manner.

>Units that cannot score Hits against an enemy target unit may fire for Suppression, they cannot voluntarily choose to
fire for suppression if they have the ability to inflict Hits. They will hit the target on a roll of 6 only, in all circumstances.
To resolve the suppressive fire, roll the attacks as normal but don't mark the hits against the target unit, instead just roll for suppression.

[Big Insect]

Thanks for answering my query. Until I had read the downloadable rues errata document I would have fired suppression fire as standard.

So a rifle platoon 3/30 firing at a tank at say 30cms would throw 3 dice hitting on a 456 assuming no modifiers apply. The tank then dices to save and then dices again for any suppression caused by unsaved  hits.

My query was about the Errata which says such firing under opportunity fire hits on a 6.I've copied and pasted the paragraph below. There is no mention of a save here so it would suggest that opportunity fire is handled in a slight different manner.

>Units that cannot score Hits against an enemy target unit may fire for Suppression, they cannot voluntarily choose to
fire for suppression if they have the ability to inflict Hits. They will hit the target on a roll of 6 only, in all circumstances.
To resolve the suppressive fire, roll the attacks as normal but don't mark the hits against the target unit, instead just roll for suppression.

Suppression fire is just like ordinary fire - but you can only cause suppression not hits. It's not automatic - you still need to dice to see if the unit actually takes the fire, then it has its save option, then it dices for suppression.

[simmo]

Thanks Big Insect, that's how I've always played it. However it does beg the question what is page 4 of the BKC errata talking about when it says needing sixes?

[Big Insect]

Thanks Big Insect, that's how I've always played it. However it does beg the question what is page 4 of the BKC errata talking about when it says needing sixes?

I'll check that out. Thanks