Vehicle scrape vs. AFV pit and hull down

[Fabterp2003]

Hi,
as I was reading the Field  defence and fortification at page 84, I met the Vehicle scrape and the AFV pit. As far as I understand both provide hard/full cover, although "Vehicle Scrapes and Gun pits only provide defensive cover to the Front and  Flanks of the unit them ".
Does  this mean that AFV pit provide full cover even when is hit in the back?
Do both provide a +1 of the save Factor?
As I'm preparing some scenarios  for AIW, the hull down position was an important tactical factor  in many  battles, how can simulate it?
I  think  it could be similar to Vehicle scrapes providing cover only to shoots coming  from the frontal sector, increasing save factor by 1.
What do you think about it?

Best regards,
Fabio

[Big Insect]

Hi Fabio
That is correct - my answer in-line in bold
Cheers
Mark

Hi,
as I was reading the Field  defence and fortification at page 84, I met the Vehicle scrape and the AFV pit. As far as I understand both provide hard/full cover, although "Vehicle Scrapes and Gun pits only provide defensive cover to the Front and  Flanks of the unit them ".
Does  this mean that AFV pit provide full cover even when is hit in the back?
> Yes - they are deemed to be of a more specialist construction - so the AFV gets protection from the rear

Do both provide a +1 of the save Factor?
As I'm preparing some scenarios  for AIW, the hull down position was an important tactical factor  in many  battles, how can simulate it?
I  think  it could be similar to Vehicle scrapes providing cover only to shoots coming  from the frontal sector, increasing save factor by 1.
What do you think about it?

Best regards,
Fabio

[Fabterp2003]

Thanks Mark for the fast replay.

What about the hull down?
Do you think is proper to simulate in CWC?
If your answer is positive, which is the best way to simulate? Is my proposal sensible?
The tank/vehicle positions behind a crest in small ridge or in sand dune line, is considered as in a vehicle scrapes except it got covers only if the shooting is through the crestline.

Best regards,
Fabio

[Big Insect]

I think that it is worth bearing in mind (at all times) that we are simulating a group of vehicles/AFVs.
But yes, your approach regarding hull down would work for LoS shooting within 45 degrees of the centre-front of the unit.
Cheers
Mark

[Fabterp2003]

Thanks Mark.
Fabio