Siege Artillery

Started by fsn, 28 July 2021, 08:44:26 PM

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fsn

Gentlemen.

I have been listening to tales of the Peninsular Campaigns and the many sieges. This got me pondering a siege game, which got me pondering siege artillery.

I'm thinking of using the SYW mortars and possibly the 24pdr siege guns from the Indian Mutiny ranges. Since I don't anticipate many siege games, I'm planning to use crew in shirtsleeves, to which I would leave space for one uniformed officer. The intention being to use the same guns for pretty much any army and so save time, money and space.

I think the SYW crews are a good start - does anyone have a better suggestion?     
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Lord Speedy of Leighton

The Franco-Prussian range has some mighty seige guns. None suitable for nappies I'm afraid!
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DecemDave

FPX1 working party have shirt sleeves.
We dont have full pics of the non-kickstarter range yet so there might be usable figures to come in the spanish or civilian ranges? 
The British field artillery I just received are uniformed and very nice too. 
Perhaps theres a way of building a base of the 24pdr  with removable crew?

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

maybe a 12 or 15mm gun might work there on a 10mm carraige.
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Westmarcher

I know you prefer to write your own rules but there is a fairly recently released Siege Rule set called Vauban's Wars that I understand you can play with almost any tactical 'field' rules. Here's a link to the rules (perhaps, even, the headings will provide some ideas)(plus I have the old Koenig Krieg Siege rules if you want them).

https://dinofbattle.blogspot.com/p/vaubans-wars.html

As for SYW, the waistcoats are slightly long for Naps but easy enough to shave off pigtails and if you mix them with a few national uniforms and any figs suggested by the other guys it should work. Guessing here but aren't guns supplied with crews (bloody autocorrect changed it to 'cows'  :o ) so you'll have a few national uniforms anyway unless you order solely SYW packs?
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Chris Pringle

A 24pdr siege gun discharging must create a powerful cloud of smoke. If you just shroud the gun in cotton wool, maybe that would solve your figure problem?  ;)

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Chris I suspect that the smoke would be forward of the gun due to the blast, so possibly not workable.
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Chris Pringle

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 July 2021, 11:56:20 AM
Chris I suspect that the smoke would be forward of the gun due to the blast, so possibly not workable.

I know the smoke comes out at the front. It wasn't an entirely serious suggestion. But if we want to take it seriously: well, if fsn can specify the model represents the minute after the gun fires, he can also specify the wind direction, can't he?

Big Insect

Quote from: Chris Pringle on 29 July 2021, 01:11:12 PM
I know the smoke comes out at the front. It wasn't an entirely serious suggestion. But if we want to take it seriously: well, if fsn can specify the model represents the minute after the gun fires, he can also specify the wind direction, can't he?

I suspect that the massive shock of firing the gun on a dusty ground would also generate clouds of raised dust as well as the smoke from the actual charge.
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sultanbev

If I recall rightly I bought the guns in the older 1812 French and Austrian ranges and they are huge, suitable for 16pdr or 24pdr siege guns - item NFM10, and NMA14 for the Austrians.
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fsn

Quote from: DecemDave on 29 July 2021, 09:17:10 AM
FPX1 working party have shirt sleeves.
Good shout!

Quote from: sultanbev on 29 July 2021, 04:53:19 PM
If I recall rightly I bought the guns in the older 1812 French and Austrian ranges and they are huge, suitable for 16pdr or 24pdr siege guns - item NFM10, and NMA14 for the Austrians.
Also a good shout!

Thank you Gentlemen.
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DecemDave

Not only remember.  This is from my May 2020 nonkickstarter wishlist

PS I haven't checked through the existing catalog yet but when your sculptor gets the time/the funding goes way over my lads will also need mules, carts, hand carts, Spanish and civilian casualties, and a Frank Sinatra look alike to ride a 20mm range gun

Ben Waterhouse

Quote from: DecemDave on 29 July 2021, 08:59:06 PM
Not only remember.  This is from my May 2020 nonkickstarter wishlist

PS I haven't checked through the existing catalog yet but when your sculptor gets the time/the funding goes way over my lads will also need mules, carts, hand carts, Spanish and civilian casualties, and a Frank Sinatra look alike to ride a 20mm range gun

I can't see a gun....
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steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 29 July 2021, 09:11:41 PM
I can't see a gun....

Nor I, though I'd estimate the ammunition's D-cup calibre.

Ithoriel

Quote from: fsn on 29 July 2021, 08:10:10 PM
Remember "The Pride and the Prejudice"? This gun I think is about a 2,000lb gun.

Looks like a pair of 38's to me.
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