Sub vs Sub WW2

[Heedless Horseman]

Strangely, I had always thought that this sort of combat was much more frequent!  Maybe, influenced by 'Hollywood' or 'Cold War' tech. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yff6I-Ou-jw

Narration is a bit 'breathless'... but forward past the 'historcal perspective'... and interesting.

Birth of the 'Hunter Killer' class of subs?

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

The comentry is very biased and US oreinted. Problem in both WWI and WWII was lack of sensors to detect targets which were submerged. Submarines until the late 50's were rather submersables, they could submerge but spent most of their time on the surface.

[hammurabi70]

I like DarkDocs.  For submarines i go to Terraine's Business in Great Waters: U-boat Wars, 1916-45.

E3 was on the surface so it is not clear what the comparison is.

[flamingpig0]

Strangely, I had always thought that this sort of combat was much more frequent!  Maybe, influenced by 'Hollywood' or 'Cold War' tech. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yff6I-Ou-jw

Narration is a bit 'breathless'... but forward past the 'historcal perspective'... and interesting.

Birth of the 'Hunter Killer' class of subs?

It most notably features in Run Silent Run Deep which I feel is one of the better Hollywood  Sub films

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_Silent,_Run_Deep_(film)

oh and in

[steve_holmes_11]

Strangely, I had always thought that this sort of combat was much more frequent!  Maybe, influenced by 'Hollywood' or 'Cold War' tech. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yff6I-Ou-jw

Narration is a bit 'breathless'... but forward past the 'historcal perspective'... and interesting.

Birth of the 'Hunter Killer' class of subs?

The British R Class (WW1 vintage) was a first atempt.

Very streamlined hull, large bow torpedo complement, and big electric motor(s) for high underwater speed.
Scrapped around 1923, the concept wasn't considered a success.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_R-class_submarine

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Wasan't the K class similar in concept with steam turbines ?

[Sunray]

Strangely, I had always thought that this sort of combat was much more frequent!  Maybe, influenced by 'Hollywood' or 'Cold War' tech. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yff6I-Ou-jw

Narration is a bit 'breathless'... but forward past the 'historcal perspective'... and interesting.

Birth of the 'Hunter Killer' class of subs?

My old comrade & neighbour the late Vice Admiral Sir Arthur Hezlet sank U859 with a stern salvo of torpedoes from HMS Trenchant on 23 Sept 1944, which was a text book exercise of one sub attacking another sub on the surface in an era when subs spend a lot of time topside. Sir Arthur's metal arithmetic of U859's speed, currents and a thirty second  running time of primitive torpedoes at 600+ yard range became a legend amongst submariners.  A +1 with the dice at least?

The extraordinary kill by Trenchant was eclipsed by Sir Arthur's historic sinking of the Ashigara in the Banka Strait on 8 June 1945

[pierre the shy]

thirty second  running time of primitive torpedoes at 600+ yard range became a legend amongst submariners.  A +1 with the dice at least?

The same type of steam driven Mark VIII torpedoes were still in use 38 years later.....and proved to be still just as effective as Cdr Wreford-Brown's attack showed.   

[flamingpig0]

Wasan't the K class similar in concept with steam turbines ?

Yes - but he mere emotion of the K class makes me shudder

[toxicpixie]

The widow makers? Thank Fnord we never have to sail one! Definitely some sun on sub action there albeit self inflicted...