US troops and US Marines 1941

Started by Sunray, 10 March 2020, 11:06:20 AM

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Sunray

No so much a request, more a enquiry regrading interest.

I recall 20 + years ago, Colin Romford and the Grimsby Wargamers staging a superb game based on the defence of Wake Island.

A few of us have discussed gaming it.   The hassle is that in 10mm we have no suitable figures for Americans apart from WW1.

Early WW2 Americans in the British style helmet would have a play range from apres Peral Harbour to the  Philippines.  I have also seen counterfactual invasion wargames   of Hawaii and West Coast USA (inspired by the movie 1941 )
  Weapons - Springfield M1903, Thompson SMG,  BAR and early Browning (water cooled) 

All support and armour is already on the shelf and the Japanese opposition are well covered.

Any interest?   

Steve J

I think this has been mentioned before and would certainly be an excellent addition to the US range. Tempted but am trying to maintain focus this year :D.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

May be a tad too specialised, but would also be useable, mostly for WWI
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sultanbev

I'd be interested in a 1940-41 US line, but it would have to include the earlier generation of armour, M2A1 Medium, M2A# Combat Cars, M3 Scout Car (as apposed to M3A1), and cavalry.

Mark

paulr

I'd be interested in using them in the Philippines

Would definitely want cavalry to represent the 26th Philippines Scouts, they made the last mounted charge by the US Army
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hammurabi70

Would they be usable in Malaya 41/42?  I do not know enough about the uniforms to know if British and Americans were generic enough.  Are the BEF figures usable for this?  What for Indonesian Dutch 41/42?

GrumpyOldMan

Quote from: hammurabi70 on 23 July 2020, 06:09:52 PM
Would they be usable in Malaya 41/42?  I do not know enough about the uniforms to know if British and Americans were generic enough.  Are the BEF figures usable for this?  What for Indonesian Dutch 41/42?

For British in Malaya you'd be better off with 8th Army, WW1 Brit Middle East, WW1 Indians and Anzacs. Thick paint covers many inconsistencies.  :)
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/search?query=BRITISH+ARMY+IN+MALAYA+1941&pageSize=30&media-records=all-records&style=list&filters%5BwebCategory%5D%5BPhotographs%5D=on

Dutch East Indies is more of a problem. They wear a slouch but the fold is on their right as opposed to the British/Australian left. You could use the Romanians since the helmet is very close to the Dutch
http://10mmpatrioticwar.blogspot.com/2011/08/romanian-battalion.html


hammurabi70

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 23 July 2020, 11:36:34 PM
For British in Malaya you'd be better off with 8th Army, WW1 Brit Middle East, WW1 Indians and Anzacs. Thick paint covers many inconsistencies.  :)
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/search?query=BRITISH+ARMY+IN+MALAYA+1941&pageSize=30&media-records=all-records&style=list&filters%5BwebCategory%5D%5BPhotographs%5D=on

Dutch East Indies is more of a problem. They wear a slouch but the fold is on their right as opposed to the British/Australian left. You could use the Romanians since the helmet is very close to the Dutch

Thanks; useful.

Sunray

British in Malaya ??  The 8th Army is best bet as shorts appear in a lot of images.  Surrender of Singapore etc.

For later war like Burma, try Korean Early War British - Phil and I designed them with potential WW2 14th Army proxy in mind.

Techno

Quote from: Sunray on 05 August 2020, 03:41:58 PM
Phil and I designed them with potential WW2 14th Army proxy in mind.

Nah....I just pushed the putty around.....with a huge amount of help/ideas for their use as proxies from your good self, James. :)

Cheers - Phil.

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Techno

No, Ian....genuinely....I truly never see the potential 'proxies' of anything I make...I simply haven't got that background. (Sadly)
You guys (who know so much more than me, regarding anything historical,) can see all the potential of using a certain range of wee men for something else...because 'they're so similar'.

My 'start' in this industry is from the 'fantasy/sci-fi' genre.

Cheers - Phil :)





hammurabi70

Quote from: Sunray on 05 August 2020, 03:41:58 PM
British in Malaya ??  The 8th Army is best bet as shorts appear in a lot of images.  Surrender of Singapore etc.

For later war like Burma, try Korean Early War British - Phil and I designed them with potential WW2 14th Army proxy in mind.

Yes, it is my Korean War troops that is causing me to look at options for Japanese troops. The Allied figures are good for late war but then I was thinking about early war.

sultanbev

This is a bump for 1940-41 US infantry, as I've now got some 10mm M2A2 Light Tanks and M2A1 Medium tanks.
I would proxy with WW1 US infantry, but there isn't a Bar gunner in the WW1 range.

Mark

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Mark I'm reasonaly certain that both the Belgiums and Poles used the BAR, so a head swap would give you the ones needed ?
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