French and Indian War help

[Airborne Engineer]

Good morning,

New to the forum but have been in the hobby forever.  I have long had 10mm ACW armies (still painting them of course) but have dreamed of doing an America's  early wars in the same scale.  I eventually would like to do AWI but don't have the time/money to put a lot into a new scale.  But my son recently has become excited with the French and Indian Wars so I figured it was a good time to do a small set of units for games.

Trouble is I know the basics about the war, but don't know much about the Pendraken troops and what from the SYW line will fit in for the troops that are not in the FIW line.  Do the packs of troops include leaders, flag bearers, and drummers?  Or do I need to find them in another line? 

There are no artillery, Highlanders or Grenadiers (either side) and few leader figures in the FIW range.  What guns from the SYW range would work?  Also would the SYW Highlanders and British and French Grenadiers also work for those in North America?

Would some of the leaders from the SYW line work?  I was also looking at using AWI militia for the colonial militia in FIW, is that a workable solution too?

Thanks for any help?

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Welcome.
Not my period but I'm sure some of the 'Big Guns' will answer soon.

[Fenton]

I am afraid I can't help but welcome to the forum

[Techno]

As Will (Mad Lemmey) says...Someone will be along soon to help.
Anyway....A warm welcome from me, too !
Cheers - Phil

[Westmarcher]

Yep. It will be like waiting for a bus. You'll wait for ages and then three will come along (hopefully).  In the meantime, I think the SYW and AWI Pendraken ranges were made by different sculptors - so different styles and slightly different proportions. As far as I can see, the FIW looks as if it is more compatible with the SYW range than the AWI range. But as they are all '10 mm,' for some, it will matter, for others it will not. I purchased my SYW many years ago and I got Command figures with each pack. However, a good idea is just to e-mail Pendraken. They are very helpful and will answer all of your questions.

[btw. Welcome to the forum]

[paulr]

Welcome to the forum

I have figures from the AWI range and Woods Indians from the FIW range. They seem fairly compatible, although I haven't painted any of the Indians yet.

There is a picture here of the indians and some AWI figures based together http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5688.msg53279.html#msg53279

Hope that helps

[Airborne Engineer]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

It is good to hear they fit in well size-wise.  I figured if they were kept to their own bases that would not be a problem.

My concerns with fitting in were more uniform-wise.  Would a SYW highlander figure designed for Europe work for a highlander in North America?  Same goes for the grenadiers and such.  I know there were a lot of local modifications for campaigning in the wilderness, would these make a European grenadier look foolish hiking through the woods of New York heading to New France.

I know many of the FIW figures are not in regulation uniforms, so would SYW uniforms look out of place in FIW? 

[Fenton]

I am no expert on the period but as fast I am aware they are close enough timewise to use the same uniforms. I think there might have been ad hoc changes to the uniform to suit local conditions and terrain. Didn't some British regiments do this in the AWI?  But would this be noticeable in 10mm?

[Matt J]

For my Quebec project I've happily mixed FIW range and SYW.

link : http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10722.0.html

FIW for irregulars and SYW range for the regulars. I appreciate the regulars uniforms would be far more modified (cut coats etc) but difficult to realise in 10mm. If you are doing small actions skirmishes like the battles for the wilderness forts or Braddocks failed expedition I'd focus more on the FIW range.

Matt

[Airborne Engineer]

Thanks Matt, I had not found your thread in any of my searches.  You have a lot of great stuff on there.

Lots of different forums with sometimes similar threads so still learning my way around.

[Bill Braham]

The FIW and SYW ranges were sculpted by the same person so they are completely interchangeable. French and British infantry (incl the Highlanders) as well as the artillery from the SYW range can be used in FIW games without reservation. The sculpts for the FIW-specific types are based on the 2nd edition of the May/Embleton - Osprey MAA Wolfe's Army and the French FIW are presumably drawn from the Rene Chartrand series Louis XV's army. The AWI range was sculpted by someone different but I honestly cannot see why, given uniform changes etc you would need to mix FIW/SYW with AWI (the only exception being the Woodland Indians in the FIW) ranges. Its a bit like mixing ECW and Marlburians.

Pack composition varies - some ranges include command in the basic infantry pack - this is true of the SYW range so assume the same applies for FIW but better to check directly with Leon or Dave at Pendraken if it is not clear from the website.