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Pendraken Rules! => Warband => Topic started by: Saigancat on 15 February 2022, 11:03:58 PM

Title: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Saigancat on 15 February 2022, 11:03:58 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aRaA5W3CtVgAFU67V-tjpMOPJ7c2zBNkkhLmkDskDus/edit?usp=sharing

Boom.

There are a couple of odd inconsistencies in the official unit lists but my reverse-engineered point calculator works 99% of the time and when it doesn't work it is darned close. Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Leon on 16 February 2022, 04:36:53 PM
Great work, that must have taken some time!  I've been meaning to do similar for the BKC rules but haven't found the time yet.
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Saigancat on 17 February 2022, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: Leon on 16 February 2022, 04:36:53 PMGreat work, that must have taken some time!  I've been meaning to do similar for the BKC rules but haven't found the time yet.

It was a very slow work day  ;)
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Raider4 on 17 February 2022, 08:07:25 PM
I've done a similar thing for both "Tanks" and "Victory at Sea" in the past. Starts off as an interesting exercise, quickly degenerates to drudgery and frustration.
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Big Insect on 18 February 2022, 02:34:11 PM
Having a go at BKC IV would be a great exercise, as I've been using a 'back of a fag packet' mental calculation on it (& CWC) as we never got the calculator from Pete when things were passed over.
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Leon on 18 February 2022, 09:42:14 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 18 February 2022, 02:34:11 PMHaving a go at BKC IV would be a great exercise, as I've been using a 'back of a fag packet' mental calculation on it (& CWC) as we never got the calculator from Pete when things were passed over.

I remember asking him for it at the time and his reply was that there wasn't one!  He said he'd always used a similar 'mental estimation' method when he put the original lists together.
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Big Insect on 21 February 2022, 09:54:48 AM
I'm not much good at the reverse engineering math thing myself, I'm afraid.
I tried using the FWC unit calculator but the answers came our wildly more expensive when applied to BKC & CWC.
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: fred. on 21 February 2022, 07:18:56 PM

QuoteI remember asking him for it at the time and his reply was that there wasn't one!  He said he'd always used a similar 'mental estimation' method when he put the original lists together.
This will make reverse engineering quite hard then!


I suppose its about finding some method that gets pretty close to current points in most cases, and where there are differences people are happy that the calculator is right more than the guesstimate method
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: fred. on 21 February 2022, 09:19:23 PM
Ok - had a go a BKC points!

This is a first pass just looking at Tanks, but seems to broadly work, except for tankettes which it significantly over points.

Formula is
Move +
( AP Shots x AP Range / 8 ) +
( AT Shots x AT Range / 6 ) +
( Close Assault x 5 ) +
Hits / ( Save -1 / 6) x 6
+ Specials



Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Big Insect on 23 February 2022, 10:14:55 PM
I agree about the tankettes - bearing in mind generally useless most were  :D
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: fred. on 24 February 2022, 07:43:17 AM
My formula puts tankettes quite a bit higher (c 20pts) than the book lists. Which feels like its the wrong direction. I suspect I am over pointing movement, and under pointing shooting 

If anyone has a spreadsheet of the stats that would help a lot, rather than me having to copy them from the army lists!
Title: Re: Warband Point Calculator
Post by: Leon on 24 February 2022, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: fred. on 24 February 2022, 07:43:17 AMIf anyone has a spreadsheet of the stats that would help a lot, rather than me having to copy them from the army lists!

Shoot me an email about that, I'm sure I've got them in spreadsheet format for the upcoming army builder.