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Title: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: pierre the shy on 15 January 2022, 10:03:09 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - General Quarters 1 and 2
2) What armies were confronted? - RN/USN vs IJN somewhere in the South China Sea December 1941 
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yes, very
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No, I've been playing them since 2013.
5) How many players were in the game? - 3/4 (Paul is umpiring the campaign but wanted to run the USN destroyer flotilla).
6) What went well? - For RN/USN pretty much everything, for the IJN not very much.
7) What could have been improved? - IJN cruiser gunnery

This was the first game in our refight of the "Defence of the Malay Barrier" Campaign by Old Dominion Game Works 

The RN Wesforce, based in Singapore, with a USN destroyer flotilla attached, sortied to intercept a Japanese invasion convoy that had been spotted by the RAF off the East coast of Malaya (as it was known in 1941). The sighting report was not that accurate (The brylcream boys reporting carriers rather than cruisers!  :o) ).

The interception was sucessful and Wesforce deployed with Exeter (flag), 3 old D class light cruisers and a total of 12 (mainly WW1 vintage) RN and USN destroyers facing off agianst an IJN invasion convoy of 11 transports, 2 Mogami class heavy cruisers and 8 modern destroyers.

Each IJN cruiser mounts 10 x 8" guns, agianst the Exeter's 6. The D class light cruisers only mount 5 x 6" individual centreline mounts.

Exeter opened fire on the leading cruiser at fairly long range and hit her 3 turns in a row, slowing her significantly and damaging her enough to force its withdrawal from the action. Meanwhile the one flotilla of 4 relatively modern destroyers was sent in to attack the head of the Japanese formation. While still relitively undamaged they were able to mount an effective torpedo attack on the Japanese flagship, which was hit by several torpedoes and literally exploded when its magazines lit off, taking the Japanese admiral and many of the crew with it.

Meanwhile the Japanese destroyers frantically laid smoke to protect the lumbering transports. The Exeter, hardly touched by Japanese fire, on the opposite course to the convoy was able to sight the tail-end ship of the nearest column and engage it. Exeter's good fortune continued, hitting its target squarely with a with a full 8" broadside. This caused this ship to explode as well, since it was carrying ammunition and other flammable supplies.

My destroyers did start suffering quite badly and the cruiser line is about to turn away with Japanese destroyers approaching.

But I think I have done enough damage to force the Japanese to withdraw since the Admiral's flagship failed morale and there are losses amongst their transports which (if I read the campaign rules correctly) means the whole force withdraws (or at least has to test morale....which is a bit of a novelty in my naval gaming experience). I just hope the umpire agrees with my reading of that particular section!!  ;)  :-\

As Admiral Palister was present on Exeter's bridge he has directed his flag secretary to prepare a recommendation for the immediate award of a suitable decoration for the Exeter's Captain and Gunnery Officer.

Tally Ho!                         


   
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: paulr on 16 January 2022, 12:17:28 AM
Quote5) How many players were in the game? - 3/4 (Paul is umpiring the campaign but wanted to run the USN destroyer flotilla).
I wanted to introduce a little inter-navy confusion to the Allied side ;)

I agree with your reading and once you decide what you will do if the Japanese break off Roy and I can finish the action off.

My account of the action will appear in this thread (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,21410.0.html) in due course
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 January 2022, 07:41:18 AM
Sounds like good fun.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 16 January 2022, 07:42:40 AM
Well it certainly seems to be a good start for the ABDA in the campaign. Fingers crossed their luck holds...
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 16 January 2022, 07:46:01 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Practical Wargmaing by C Wesencraft.
2) What armies were confronted? - Generic Ancients.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Not bad given it was my first go with them.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes.
5) How many players were in the game? - Solo.
6) What went well? - Not bad for a first run out with the rules, that look to have plenty to offer. You can see how Neil Thomas took these rules and updated them.
7) What could have been improved? - Not much really. The game then allowed me to spot bits I'd missed etc. I certainly look forward to giving these another run out soon.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: paulr on 16 January 2022, 08:00:03 AM
QuoteWell it certainly seems to be a good start for the ABDA in the campaign. Fingers crossed their luck holds...
X_X  X_X  X_X
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Chris Pringle on 26 January 2022, 09:16:28 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? Bloody Big BATTLES! (BBB)
2) What armies were confronted? Austrians vs Prussians - Trautenau, Austro-Prussian War, 1866
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? Yes
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? No
5) How many players were in the game? Four players, one umpire (Crispin)
6) What went well? A stonking good fast-moving game, fought to a finish in two hours flat
7) What could have been improved? I was on the winning side but in a way a draw would have been even better - honours even is always a nice result.

I report this mainly because I'm so pleased with the scenario that generated a nice mobile game, plenty for both sides to do and a nice 'shape' to it. Full AAR here:
http://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/2022/01/back-in-bohemia-trautenau-1866.html
Scenario available from the BBB group:
https://groups.io/g/bloodybigbattles
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 29 January 2022, 11:10:39 AM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - General de'Armee (Napoleonic)
2) What armies were confronted? - French v Late Prussians
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - No
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes
5) How many players were in the game? - 3, with two of us playing and one trying to understand/interpret the rules.
6) What went well? - Not a great deal from my point of view. These rules just didn't grab me which surprised me as I really like 'O' Group by the same author and the good review they got on on Little Wars TV. Some of the mechanisms seemed overly complicated and in particular I didn't like the way skirmishers were handled (it seemed a bit like a game within a game).
7) What could have been improved? -  :-\

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 29 January 2022, 11:23:20 AM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Live Free or Die (AWI) by Little Wars TV
2) What armies were confronted? - Rebels v British
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Fairly
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Second time.
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - The rules 'flowed' well and were easy to pick up. Will use them again.  :)
7) What could have been improved? - A couple of things could have been explained better in the rules (which are only four pages long) but nothing serious that we couldn't make our own decisions on.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fsn on 29 January 2022, 05:43:26 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Nobby's WWII Air War Rules
2) What armies were confronted? - 1941 USN vs Japanese Navy (12 Wildcat vs 8 Zero & 8 Kate)
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yah.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Nope ... played a few in development
5) How many players were in the game? - 1
6) What went well? - Lot happier with the rules now. The "feel" is getting better.
7) What could have been improved? - Still not good. Needs less paperwork.

Wildcats intercepted a raid by the Kates escorted by the Zeroes. The Kates fared badly (lost 4, further 3 damaged) but the Wildcats lost out to the Japanese fighters (4 Wildcats down,5 damaged; 2 Zeroes down, 1 damaged)

US victory I suppose, in that the Kates didn't manage to press home the attack, but the cost was high.   
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 January 2022, 08:54:04 PM

QuoteUS victory I suppose, in that the Kates didn't manage to press home the attack, but the cost was high.   


 "Another victory like that and we are done for." - Pyrrhus of Epirus  :)
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: paulr on 29 January 2022, 09:49:57 PM
Not at the rate the US is building planes and training pilots ;)
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: paulr on 05 February 2022, 02:50:57 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - DBA 3.0
2) What armies were confronted? - 1373 French & Scots v English & Free Company
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yes
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? -Not by a long way
5) How many players were in the game? - 4
6) What went well? - The French Knights on the left distracting most of the Free Company and the Scots push of pike
7) What could have been improved? - The English & Free Company PIP rolls at key points

The English chose to dismount all their men-at-arms and deploy them to support their long bow. The Free Company was deployed on the English right with the English and French men-at-arms dismounted. The German and Spanish Knights remained mounted.

The French deployed on the left and right with their mounted knights on the flanks. The Scottish pike were massed in the center.

The French knights on the left went wide forcing the Free Company mounted knights and reserve to cover them. The French knight on the right were forced into column to avoid riding through ploughed fields

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51861657082_04d9a584f9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n1QxPq)

The English long bows disrupted the French and Scottish attack and quickly overwhelmed the French cross bows on the hill on the right. This left the dismounted French general on this flank somewhat isolated

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51862618051_0d6da9211d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n1VttR)

The English had deployed their two commands one behind the other, this meant that one command was fighting both the Scots and the French right. Casualties mounted on this command while the other English command could only bring some of its forces against the French left. Eventually the first English command broke and the second command was then demoralised by mounting casualties against the Scots pike.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51863276535_d5af319dee_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n1YRe2)

The Free Company was unable to bring the majority of its troops to bear against the French left as almost half its troops were drawn off to oppose the French Knights on their wide sweep around the left flank and the remainder struggled to get into action against the refused inner flank of the French. When they did the timely intervention of the French Peasant levy supported their dismounted Knights as they charged down off the hill

Victory to the French, perhaps John of Gaunt's Chevauchée was not going to be as great  :-\

This was the first time we had used the earlier version of the French and English armies which have a different character to the Agincourt era armies. Both the Scots and Free Company gave a good account of themselves in their first time on the table
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 05 February 2022, 10:55:00 AM
You've upped the ante for 2022 with photographs.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: DecemDave on 05 February 2022, 11:09:15 AM
Excellent.   =D>
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 05 February 2022, 12:46:05 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - For King and Parliament
2) What armies were confronted? - Rebels v Royalist
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - 3
6) What went well? - Rules are great and everything flowed pretty freely.
7) What could have been improved? - Prince Maurice not losing a brigade of 3 regiments of horse in one turn!

(http://i.imgur.com/dSMxaH6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/dSMxaH6)

(http://i.imgur.com/wO21ZPm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/wO21ZPm)

(http://i.imgur.com/SOGWylj.jpg) (https://imgur.com/SOGWylj)

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: DecemDave on 05 February 2022, 12:52:51 PM
Terrific   =D>

Shouts in direction of display cupboard:  "No you can't have irregular shaped bases like they do"   
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 05 February 2022, 07:35:36 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Dragon Rampant
2) What armies were confronted? - Portuguese "Civilisados" Vs Bijapur Sultanate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_sultanates#Bijapur_Sultanate).
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yes - through it had been a while.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - 2: Myself and Westmarcher (of this forum).
6) What went well? - Rules ran smoothly, scenario was simple enough to follow without problems.
7) What could have been improved? - The Sultan's activation rolls saw his troops caught with their chaddis (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chaddi#:~:text=Noun,India) male or female underpants) down.


1512 somewhere close to the Portuguese Goa.
The Sultans troops reconnoitre with a view to recapturing the Portuguese enclave.
Spies have reported their movements to the viceroy, who has organised a night time assault on their encampment.

Westmarcher and I met for our delayed kick off game of 2022.
The rules were Dragon Rampant (Daniel Mersey / Osprey), using scenario G "Beating up Quarters" form the Osprey Pikeman's Lament rules.

The Bijapur forces occupied a square campsite, with 2 units on sentry duty; the remainder sleeping in their bashas.
The Portuguese approached in a double envelopment, taking advantage of darkness to draw close to the objective.
They quickly pressed a successful attack into one corner of the camp.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4ZS3E-43CAsLUlpIluOPpnfOwaC3TWZ3EqbE4g0lmqAmLRrf23Gugo2EJeoHLIWK98Tp0NoOjY5z4424mmzSaMcJ_kiYKP5lIHQX1FrcPzfP_mVKwNGYRyqlQvQv58wMfaUxDXl-YQ=w2400)

The Bijapur forces tried to form up, but two units were eliminated before getting into fighting order.
The commanders charged his cavalry to attempt a break-out, but was evaded and drawn into crossfire in the dark.

The last of the Sultan's troops managed a crossfire of their own, routing one unit of Portuguese shock troops; but all too late.
The Portuguese returned to Goa triumphant, and with light casualties.
The Sultan's headquarters saw the smoke of their burning encampment.
A handful of injured fugitives straggled in during the day, confirming the magnitude of the defeat.






Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fsn on 05 February 2022, 07:42:19 PM
Interesting game.

1512? Please could you tell me what units were involved? Despite the imprecations of an august member of the forum, I am somewhat innocent of the early C16.



PS. Love the robo-cougar in the background.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 05 February 2022, 08:02:01 PM

QuoteInteresting game.

1512? Please could you tell me what units were involved? Despite the imprecations of an august member of the forum, I am somewhat innocent of the early C16.



PS. Love the robo-cougar in the background.
From recent memory:


The Viceroy of Portuguese India (Westmarcher)

2 units of 12 Offensive heavy foot (Armoured sword and buckler troops) - 6 points each
2 units of 12 heavy missiles (Formed arquebusiers) - 4 points each
2 units of 6 scouts (Skirmishing Arquebusiers) - 2 points each

The Sultan of Bijapur (Steve Holmes)

2 units of 12 heavy missiles (Bunduquis) - 4 points each
1 unit of 6 heavy riders with missiles (Lance and Bow armed cavalry) - 5 points
1 unit of 6 scouts (Jezailichis) - 2 points
1 unit of 6 scouts with venomous shooting (Rocketeers) - 5 points.
1 unit of light riders (Zambaruk Camel Gunners) - 4 points


Any further questions, ask away. 

Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Westmarcher on 05 February 2022, 08:59:48 PM
Thanks again for hosting and organising another entertaining adventure in 16th Century India, Steve (nice 15mm minis and palm trees, btw). My commiserations (at least West Ham won today  :) ). Although my own half-baked plan worked out, to be fair, I think we were both bemused by the actual turn of events - and this time purely 'historical' without mythical beasts, zombies or magical powers. Kind of glad you didn't choose elephants for your Indian army - otherwise I'd be asking for special powers to counter them - e.g., box of mice or bag of buns. Incidentally, is that a second victory for Vasco Mourinho?  ;) 

p.s. Your 10mm figures for the period also look very tasty - no doubt, we can get these on the table in future when you can introduce me to the delights of Irregular Wars - Conflicts at the World's End?
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 05 February 2022, 10:10:07 PM
Yes
QuoteThanks again for hosting and organising another entertaining adventure in 16th Century India, Steve (nice 15mm minis and palm trees, btw). My commiserations (at least West Ham won today  :) ). Although my own half-baked plan worked out, to be fair, I think we were both bemused by the actual turn of events - and this time purely 'historical' without mythical beasts, zombies or magical powers. Kind of glad you didn't choose elephants for your Indian army - otherwise I'd be asking for special powers to counter them - e.g., box of mice or bag of buns. Incidentally, is that a second victory for Vasco Mourinho?  ;) 

p.s. Your 10mm figures for the period also look very tasty - no doubt, we can get these on the table in future when you can introduce me to the delights of Irregular Wars - Conflicts at the World's End?


I hope the first of the 10mm figures will show up at the Painting Competition.

I've checked the Irregular Wars army lists and am horrified to see how many more stands I require to fill out a typical Indian force.

Above the "patrols and excursions" scale of Dragon Rampant, most forces incorporate an awful lot of levies.
Porters, grooms, cooks, water carriers, but most expected to fill out the ranks in a typical battle between Indian states.

They're typically rather dull to paint. I'll engage my impressionist brain and see whether I can devise a "painting by numbers" scheme to churn out lots quickly.

Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: pbeccas on 05 February 2022, 11:37:38 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Fistful of Lead
2) What armies were confronted? - Soviets v Finns
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yes, very
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - Easy stress free rules
7) What could have been improved? - We played a meeting engagement between two recon forces.  Would have been better if there was an objective rather than just kill each other to win.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fred. on 06 February 2022, 08:23:00 AM

QuoteYes



I've checked the Irregular Wars army lists and am horrified to see how many more stands I require to fill out a typical Indian force.

Above the "patrols and excursions" scale of Dragon Rampant, most forces incorporate an awful lot of levies.
Porters, grooms, cooks, water carriers, but most expected to fill out the ranks in a typical battle between Indian states.

They're typically rather dull to paint. I'll engage my impressionist brain and see whether I can devise a "painting by numbers" scheme to churn out lots quickly.


Not wanting to add to the bad news, they are a bit of a liability within the game - and can rather break and route off table if just one of them is destroyed!


But they do feel a core part of the forces and I think working out how to use them - if not effectively but at least not as a liability is important. 

Painting wise, it feels like a variety of browns?
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fred. on 06 February 2022, 08:24:15 AM

Quote1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Fistful of Lead
2) What armies were confronted? - Soviets v Finns
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yes, very
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - Easy stress free rules
7) What could have been improved? - We played a meeting engagement between two recon forces.  Would have been better if there was an objective rather than just kill each other to win.
Was this WWII? We've not tried FFoL for WII yet, mainly used if for Cowboys and Colonials - I assume they rules worked well, for a more Hollywood take on WWII?
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 06 February 2022, 10:35:53 AM

QuoteNot wanting to add to the bad news, they are a bit of a liability within the game - and can rather break and route off table if just one of them is destroyed!


But they do feel a core part of the forces and I think working out how to use them - if not effectively but at least not as a liability is important.

Painting wise, it feels like a variety of browns?


Yes that "Unreliable" makes them liable to desertion outside the commander's radius.
The kicker being the risk of starting a domino effect rout if within the commander's radius.

Maybe I don't need to paint as many as I imagined.
The art will be applying that variety of browns without looking as though they were only primed and dipped.
I'm currently mulling over contrasts, and looking at lots of google images.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fred. on 06 February 2022, 10:53:45 AM
And Unreliable also means they are very likely to stand around and do nothing (at best) if outside the command radius. Resolve 3 melee troops really are hard to use in Irregular Wars. You think great I've got a horde them ripples of Resolve loss and suddenly they have all legged it!

One or two spot colours will probably lift them from looking as if they have only been 'dipped'. But for un-dyed cloth the 'dipped' look isn't too bad
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: pbeccas on 06 February 2022, 11:51:41 AM
Quote from: fred. on 06 February 2022, 08:24:15 AMWas this WWII? We've not tried FFoL for WII yet, mainly used if for Cowboys and Colonials - I assume they rules worked well, for a more Hollywood take on WWII?


It just a fun WWII game Fred. Five figures a side.  Just had a 3x3 playing area.  Probably went about 40mins.  You can use those rules for anything.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fred. on 06 February 2022, 03:51:40 PM
Cool. I've a bunch of 28mm WWII figures. Largely bought for Bolt Action - of which one play was quite enough! So would be good to get them on the table - though might need some more terrain
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Shecky on 08 February 2022, 06:27:29 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Oak and Iron (late 17th - early 8th C. Naval)
2) What armies were confronted? - Dutch (petite frigate and fluyt) vs. Pirates (Queen Anne's Revenge and sloop)
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - somewhat
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - quick game, sailing is easy, nice flavor.
7) What could have been improved? - I should have read the rules better. We forgot a few rules in our haste to get the game going.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 February 2022, 11:03:54 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - IACTA ALEA EST!
2) What armies were confronted? - 3rd Crusade vs Ayyubids
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - The Frankish charge finally hit where and when I needed it to, with back-breaking results.
7) What could have been improved? - Lost Richard the Lionheart early on. But Philip took over to good effect.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 11 February 2022, 04:18:54 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Honours of War
2) What armies were confronted? - Russians v Prussians
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - 'ish'. Still learning the best way to play the rules.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - The Russians deciding to frontally attack a brigade of Prussian Grenadiers backed up by a battery of heavy artillery.   :d 
7) What could have been improved? - The Russians deciding to frontally attack a brigade of Prussian Grenadiers backed up by a battery of heavy artillery.  :(

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 13 February 2022, 12:50:31 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - BKCII with some house rules.
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs Fallschirmjager.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Not by a long way.
5) How many players were in the game? - Solo.
6) What went well? - The British Recce got off to a good start, which certainly helped the attack go in. Using a weatherboard for the first time worked a treat.
7) What could have been improved? - Both sides command rolls, especially for the Fallschirmjager at the start.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 17 February 2022, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 13 February 2022, 12:50:31 PM1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Two games of Divisions of Steel run by Si Hall at Leighton Buzzard
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs German LW armour then British vs DAK infantry in the desert.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - basics are same as MeG/ReG but some nice twists. So yes.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Not by a long way.
5) How many players were in the game? - 5 then 4 with 3 more watchin and Si umpiring. All in 10mm!
6) What went well? - The British moralecwas astounding. The Getman aim was devastating. The players are organising a second game for next week!
7) What could have been improved? - I need to paint more desert British infantry and platoon command stands for my DaK!

A good night. Lots of questions answered by playing the game.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 20 February 2022, 06:29:37 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Mortal Gods and Mortal Gods (Mythic)
2) What armies were confronted? - Greeks Vs other Greeks, and Hades against Legendary Heroes
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - No
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes, first time out.
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - The Historic match up felt sensible and balanced, the second game with mythological participants descended into a morass of fiddly special rules and power gaming.
7) What could have been improved? - Post match read through the rules revealed that we got quite a lot of detail wrong.


My Friend Hugh visited to test out Mortal Gods: https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/mortal-gods

The game is quite similar to a Samurai game called Test of Honour which we have played two or three times.
Test of Honour never really impressed me: each game featuring the leaders dashing about slaughtering the rank and file until the inevitable clash between the two surviving bosses.

Mortal Gods adapts the rules to better reflect the constraints of hoplite warfare.
 * Hoplite style rank and file can combine into bigger groups which enhances their staying power at a sacrifice of manoeuvrability.
 * Leaders can use their activation to command a unit, rather than dash about killing stuff - this brings a lot of balance.
 * The 4 die rolls for each samurai swordfight have been replaced by two - and a possible reaction test where one side loses badly.
 * Power differences between leaders and rank and file are less pronounced.

Our second game featured mythological forces (using the mythic supplement).
This re-introduced all the undesirables from the samurai game.
 * Wildly overpowered characters who can slaughter almost any rank and file unit at minimal risk.
 * Little incentive to command a unit when your leader can simply charge in and cause carnage.
 * Special rules pile on extra die rolls before and after combat.
 * It's likely to end with the opposed faction bosses going toe to toe.

Summary: Rather good core rules for historic skirmish. Poorly implemented supplement.

Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 20 February 2022, 07:22:56 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - BKCII with some house rules.
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs Fallschirmjager.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Not by a long way.
5) How many players were in the game? - Solo.
6) What went well? - The FJ spoiling attack broadly worked, but at some cost.
7) What could have been improved? - The British command rolls and some more appearances by the Typhoon would have helped!
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Chris Pringle on 24 February 2022, 04:38:43 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - BBB - but with mods for the 18th century.
2) What armies were confronted? - Marlborough's army against the Franco-Bavarians - refight of Blenheim.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Took a couple of turns to get the hang of the rule mods - after that, great.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - First time with the rule mods.
5) How many players were in the game? - five.
6) What went well? - Rule mods worked very well to recreate C18 linear warfare. Game was good, ebb and flow and change of fortunes, key objective changing hands three times.
7) What could have been improved? - Would have been nice to set more villages on fire so Matt could use his battery-powered illuminated fire markers!

Full photo-AAR here: https://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/2022/02/blenheim-or-should-that-be-oberglau.html
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 04 March 2022, 08:35:58 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - BKCII with some house rules.
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs German Heer.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Not by a long way.
5) How many players were in the game? - Solo.
6) What went well? - The British Typhoon ground attacks and the flank attack by 'C' Coy, 7th SLI.
7) What could have been improved? - The German command rolls might have helped inflict some more casualties on the British.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Elliesdad on 04 March 2022, 09:21:30 PM
Quote1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - BKCII with some house rules.
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs German Heer.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Not by a long way.
5) How many players were in the game? - Solo.
6) What went well? - The British Typhoon ground attacks and the flank attack by 'C' Coy, 7th SLI.
7) What could have been improved? - The German command rolls might have helped inflict some more casualties on the British.
I'm looking forward to reading the full AAR on the blog Steve. Hopefully you'll have posted it by the time I'm back from Hammerhead tomorrow evening. What a way to look forward to spending your Saturday evenings, eh?
Cheers,
Geoff
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 05 March 2022, 07:14:00 AM
QuoteI'm looking forward to reading the full AAR on the blog Steve. Hopefully you'll have posted it by the time I'm back from Hammerhead tomorrow evening. What a way to look forward to spending your Saturday evenings, eh?

You hedonist Geoff ;)  >:( . The pics are uploaded, so all I have to do now is write up the AAR...
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 March 2022, 08:37:57 AM
1) Battlegroup NorthAG
2) Soviet vs British US Army and USMC - latter 2 are unofficial
3) Very
4) Not exactly
5) 6 players
6) Overall the entire game played very well
7) nothing really.

Fun game for one of our club's occasional Saturdays. All the games were good and the day went well. We used 6mm it was nice to root out my veteran Soviet kit.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 08 March 2022, 07:40:09 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Honours of War
2) What armies were confronted? - British/Hanoverians v French
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Pretty much.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - My French massed battery of 3 guns blowing holes in the Allies centre and the French cavalry defeating the British cavalry
7) What could have been improved? - French 'inferior' infantry are next to useless in virtually all aspects of the rules (but maybe realistic?) Still not completely sold on these rules but I think that is partly down to how we are playing them.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 17 March 2022, 01:41:27 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - To the Strongest!
2) What armies were confronted? - Early Achaemenid Persians v Early Carthaginians
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yep!
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No!
5) How many players were in the game? - 2
6) What went well? - Really hard fought game and loads of fun.
7) What could have been improved? - Should have kept my scythed chariots back a bit allowing them to get some momentum before crashing and burning on the spears of enemy hoplites.

(https://i.imgur.com/ERezokk.jpg)

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: paulr on 17 March 2022, 06:35:37 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 24 March 2022, 08:05:31 AM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - To the Strongest!
2) What armies were confronted? - Lancastrians v Yorkists
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Yes.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No!
5) How many players were in the game? - 4
6) What went well? - A plan that actually worked (more or less)! Very exciting game and loads of fun, we lost part of our camp but still managed to win. One general on each side was lost to being wounded in the same combat.
7) What could have been improved? - Not losing three units of longbowmen in the same turn, but at least they had shot off most of their arrows.

(https://i.imgur.com/TNUMsHt.jpg)

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 14 April 2022, 08:49:11 PM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - 'Live Free or Die' by Little Wars TV.
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs Americans.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very, considering it was my first game using them.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes.
5) How many players were in the game? - Solo
6) What went well? - The rules are very intuitive, so things flowed along at a nice pace. Nothing really jarred.
7) What could have been improved? - The QRS doesn't include the morale section of the rules, but easy enough to copy this and put it in the QRS envelope. As with any ruleset, as you play them you then find the answers tucked away in a sentence here and there, but nothing major to cause any problems.

All in all very impressed with them.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 April 2022, 02:29:53 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? Ten More Sons!
2) What armies were confronted? - English vs English, 1643
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - no
5) How many players were in the game? - two
6) What went well? - Lee was careless enough to let things turn into a cavalry action before her foot came up, and wasn't properly deployed.
7) What could have been improved? I was too casual about scouting, and was lucky that an ambush didn't really hurt me.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 15 April 2022, 09:21:45 AM
Hi Steve

Regarding the 'Live Free or Die' AWI rules, I have only played two solo games myself and did like them. The only thing that did 'jar' a bit was the morale rules. Which, unless I have not been playing them correctly, means that a unit taking a morale test that is down to it's very last 'stand' (i.e. it could be down to well over 50% or more of its original strength) has exactly the same chance of passing the test as a unit taking a test for losing it's first stand. Is that how you read the rules? I'm trying to think of a simple 'house rule' so that a unit has less chance of passing a test as it progressively loses stands but haven't thought of anything straight forward and simple enough yet. Grateful for any thoughts you might have. :-\

Cheers Paul   
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 15 April 2022, 09:26:10 AM
It did seem slightly strange that a few units that were down to their last stand would carry on fighting, without any impact on morale. However in my trial game they would have soon been hors de combat due to being heavily outnumbered to their front. I think some more games are required to fully appreciate the morale rules.

It is worth remembering that they were designed for quick and easy play at conventions for newcomers to wargaming. I think it wouldn't bee too difficult to tweak them to reflect the declining morale of a unit, such as may a 6+ required to pass a test, or one less die rolled etc, down to a minimum of one.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Westmarcher on 15 April 2022, 03:27:57 PM
Quote1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - 'Live Free or Die' by Little Wars TV.................

On reading the review on your blog, Steve (and many thanks for that), I see some 178 bases are required to re-fight Monmouth (some 500 - 700 figures depending on how many figures per base?). Not having anywhere near that with my own modest "toe in the water" venture into skirmish level AWI using Pendraken figures, I'd be interested to know how many bases are stipulated in the rules for the smallest scenario.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 16 April 2022, 06:47:56 AM
Eutaw Springs for example has about 40 bases for the British, 50 for the Americans. IIRC in one of the scenarios a 4th Class American unit consists of 9 bases! Personally I will be gaming either a section of the larger battles or bath tubbing them somewhat, but mainly using the rules for some of the Grant & Asquith scenarios from their books.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Westmarcher on 16 April 2022, 01:21:20 PM
Thanks, Steve. Whew! That's still a lot of bases for me. I've just re-visited the LittleWarsTV video, Learn to Play Live Free or Die, and they say you normally require at least 50 bases to re-play most of the battles of the AWI. They also say each base represents 50-75 men with regiments expected to be between 3 and 10 bases strong so definitely agree with your envisaged bath tubbing approach. It's a pity but in view of this, I reckon I'll stick to my skirmish level Rebels & Patriots games for the time being and only if I expand my collection, will I then consider Live Free or Die.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 26 April 2022, 05:56:55 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Age of Honor (SYW).
2) What armies were confronted? - French v Hanoverians/Hessians/British.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Pretty much although haven't played them for a few years.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - Two, introducing a friend to the rules (on the quest to find a SYW set of rules that ticks all our boxes).
6) What went well? - The 'see-saw' effect of the cavalry battle and the rules seemed to flowed nicely and intuitively.
7) What could have been improved? Probably (as usual) too big a game for an introduction to the rules but that was my fault.

The Allied centre:
(https://i.imgur.com/OsZ3WWR.jpg)

A French brigade advances through a cornfield:
(https://i.imgur.com/sjkRQ81.jpg)

Hanoverians hanging on against French foot but about to be flanked by successful French Cavalry:
(https://i.imgur.com/l1kxO0x.jpg)

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 26 April 2022, 06:35:56 PM
Great looking game there Paul 8) .
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: fred. on 26 April 2022, 07:40:44 PM
A great looking game - I can understand why you want to get lots of figures on the table!
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: pierre the shy on 26 April 2022, 07:50:48 PM
Great stuff Paul.

Your "big battalions" certainly give the impression of a mass battle. Reminded me a bit of those pictures of masses of 30mm SYW figures out of "Charge!" or "The Wargame".

Good luck with your rules quest...plenty of choices these days! 
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: paulr on 26 April 2022, 08:11:17 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 08 May 2022, 11:29:56 AM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - 'Live Free or Die' by Little Wars TV.
2) What armies were confronted? - British vs Rebels.
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Pretty much.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - Two with me umpiring/coaching and introducing them to the rules.
6) What went well? - As previously mentioned there are a couple (IMHO) of issues with the rules but nothing that can't easily be house ruled. Managed to finish the game, the batlle of Hobkirk's Hill scenerio.
7) What could have been improved? - The QRS doesn't include the morale section of the rules (as Steve already said).

(https://i.imgur.com/0pHmiil.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gV0H4uW.jpg)

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 May 2022, 11:44:32 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? IACTA ALEA EST!
2) What armies were confronted? - Late Roman republican vs Jugurtha's Numidians
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - no
5) How many players were in the game? - two
6) What went well? - Well, one unit of Lee's light horse didn't manage to escape when they tried to buzz a legion. And OK, it was a fun game.
7) What could have been improved? Not much, unless the real secret is to deploy in a single long, thin line of heavy infantry and systematically sweep over the field in unison. The elephants might be a problem, but they can't be everywhere.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 10 May 2022, 08:40:26 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - 'Post of Honour' (SYW) not published but draft copy available for free via the Honours of War website.
2) What armies were confronted? - Prussians v Austrians
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - First try out game.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - Yes.
5) How many players were in the game? - Two.
6) What went well? - Seemed to flow well and after just one game to test out the mechanics feel they have a lot of potential.
7) What could have been improved? - Not a fair question really as they are only in draft but see above.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: Steve J on 15 May 2022, 07:49:10 AM
1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Shadow of the Eagles
2) What armies were confronted? - French vs Austrian 1809
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Very, even though a while since I last played them.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - Two, including the author, Keith Flint.
6) What went well? - The Austrian Light Infantry caused problems for the French throughout. The Austrian die rolls went well at crucial times.
7) What could have been improved? - The scenario needed some tweaks, as the terrain and lack of light infantry really hampered the French. Also the arrival of the Austrian reinforcements meant that there positions was never seriously threatened.
Title: Re: What the last rules set you played in 2022
Post by: T13A on 17 May 2022, 07:32:57 PM
Hi

1) What ruleset did you use in your last game? - Live Free or Die
2) What armies were confronted? - British v Rebels. Battle of Freeman's Farm (1st Saratoga)
3) Did you feel comfortable with the ruleset? - Pretty much.
4) and... was this the first time you used this ruleset? - No
5) How many players were in the game? - Three, plus me umpiring/coaching
6) What went well? - Well balanced scenario from the book of 10 scenarios that you can purchase along with the rules. A good game and a lot of fun was had by all (including the umpire).
7) What could have been improved? - Need to write down some of the decisions we made where the rules are a bit vague (bearing in mind that they are only 4 page long)!

Cheers Paul